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<0> Most places here pay at least $10 an hour for dishwashing, but those jobs are for kids
<1> you mean did we know what denmark was? :)
<2> yep
<3> Fema, the problem with biodeisal is distribution and its as expensive as deisel in fact a little bit more.
<3> With more interest and a market, some day it may become an option.
<2> Free the thing about biodiesel is any car fitted for it still runs on regular diesel
<4> unless you make your own or buy it in bulk.
<1> wot, you're in the US i'm guessing? That's nuts, you'd never find a dishwashing job here for 10 bucks and I'm in Canada
<3> but even at its peak its estimated that biodeisal could only handle 1% of US Car fuel
<3> Auto fuel
<3> whatever you want to call it
<0> well, it costs A LOT to live in NY
<0> worse than california
<2> diesel engines were 1st designed to run on anything, and they still can
<0> and I'm in upstate
<3> Buy Heating oil and pump it in your truck
<5> This is making me thing about food.
<6> biodiesel ****s
<6> ~32 F, your screwed
<5> I am hungry. ... BBL you all take care.
<3> its #2 deisal just like your gas station kind except it has a red color and no vehicle taz
<2> not a problem in Kenya
<3> tax
<1> yeah, I'm in eastern Canada, we're a few decades behind here... the Canadian South :)
<3> unless you get caught you save money ;)
<0> you need to make at least $1000 a week to live around here
<4> yeah, thats if you are planning on being totally dependent on corporate infrastructure. diesel engines were designed with the idea of making people independent of huge corporate infrastructures.
<1> i make 800 bucks every 2 weeks
<2> currently methenol is about 100 buks/barrel, Gas is getting to the break even point with it
<1> and that's the best job i've ever had at 28 years old :)
<0> well, costs are higher here
<3> I dont have to make $1000 a week to live here and its one of the most expensive places to live in the USA between it and manhattan.
<1> yeah, i was in chicago this summer for a week, everything was insanely priced there
<2> when gasahol, bio-deisel and other such get to be cost effective, they will be used
<0> I know some people paying 50K a year for property tax on a 1/4 acre in the woods
<2> if Americans who want transpotartion can figure out a way, they will
<2> always have
<3> Pilgrim true, ones patriotism is closely tied to his wallet.
<0> of course it's lake front... but still
<4> pilgrim, it is cost effective if you buy it in bulk or make your own.
<2> FEMA it will be VERY cost effective soon when gas p***es it in price
<3> JEsus where are you wot Gorila ? Hong Kong ?
<0> Upstate NY
<3> Tokyo ?
<3> Upstate NY?
<1> it's not going to be a smooth transition and you're not going to be able to sustain the level of transportation you have now
<3> 50k Prop tax on a 1/4 acre
<2> make your own: You must amortize the cost of the rig AND pay all apropriate permits if you live in town, and get a EPA waver if you do not
<1> can you run jetliners on bio-diesel can you?
<3> What ski lift sits on that 1/4 acre
<4> but we're so accustomed to being dependent upon large companies to do things for us that we are afraid to do stuff on our own.
<2> Feliz don't see why not
<0> Most taxes have gone up around here by 300% in the last few years
<6> no, biodiesel "gels up" around the freezing point
<2> jets use kerocine after all
<1> pilgrim, I don't know enough to say you couldn't
<4> well filtered low grade fuel.
<1> however, biodiesel will not fix the energy crisis, it's certainly a great alternative for individuals to use
<7> allan5oh: that is why you mix it
<1> oil is more than just what you drive
<3> I could buy an acre next door to George Lucas for 50k a year and pay property tax
<2> Feliz the nature of a jet turbine is it will use almost ny fuel
<3> hehehe
<6> even a 5% mix isn't very good
<3> Nah I am kidding but property tax thats insane.
<1> pilg, i'm sure they could figure it out
<4> thats exactly why you mix it and use common sense.
<2> look at the Russian Mig; it can run on jet fuel, diesel or gasoline
<3> ***ume that property tax is very high in your state say 5%
<0> There is a big problem now with finding affordable hosuing for doctors and lawyers upstate
<1> i just think people underestimate the energy crisis by focusing solely on gas for cars... it goes so much deeper than that, we're talking about the very food we eat
<0> housing
<7> pilgrim`: nice
<4> i live in texas for ****s sake. i dont have to worry about cold weather too much.
<2> designed for war
<1> i think we'll be eating our cars in 10 years
<3> So 2.5 million ? or is i 25 million
<0> doctors and teachers I meant
<1> or eachother, either one
<7> WotGorila: what do you mean affordable housing for doctors?
<7> WotGorila: what is affordable for a doctor? 1mill?
<7> pls
<2> I have a 30 yr old PL 620 Datsun Pickup. I think it might work after a bit of tinkering
<7> up where I am you can find a nice house for 300k
<7> or shoul I say down where i am
<0> well, most doctors out of school that would move to a small practice can't afford a 800K home with 20K a year in taxes
<2> II bought my nice house originally for 86k iirc
<7> WotGorila: there are no small practices where i am :)
<7> WotGorila: just big *** huge ones
<2> if I sold it would be like 200k
<2> Lupine LOL!!!
<1> do it pilgrim, it's coke binge time :)
<2> Lupine in a wolrd without Gates, who needs Windows?
<3> Well this isnt accurate but its roughly in the neighborhood of 5 million for the land based on my estimates
<8> yea.. we'll be poking along on our Apple ]['s still! :-)
<9> heh, i bet you all are abunch of disgruntled sea hawks fans=P
<3> But I know i am off
<9> =P
<1> i dont watch football
<4> i'm 4 miles from the state capital, live on a greenbelt with a sproing fed creek, have deer, foxes, fish, turtles, racoons, big oak trees etc and paid less than 60k 15 years ago.
<3> Jesus
<1> or know anything about it
<8> FT: how much for ~5acreas, medium wooded, on a ~16k acrea lake? :-)
<9> so.. whoes watching Daytona 500??
<3> 20k a year in taxes for an 800k home ?
<2> well actually I need to fire mine up tonite and make sure the drive hasnt stiffeend up. they tend to stick if not used periodically
<9> i bet we got a bunch of Jeff Gordon fans
<1> the only sport i watch is american politics
<7> FEMA: nice... how much now?
<3> My home is worth more then that and my taxes run around 5k
<3> a year
<4> prolly double
<2> I will sign in from it tonite.
<3> I would never pay 20k a year in property taxes
<3> no way
<4> not because of the house but because of its location and the other stuff
<7> thats all?
<3> I would move to some other country
<7> only 5k? must be a ****ty school district
<8> FT: total for me was ~25k but that was on six properties
<8> nice: <2> well actually I need to fire mine up tonite and make sure the drive hasnt stiffeend up. they tend to stick if not used periodically
<2> Free in Albuquerque one of the richest nmansions never paid that much; for a decade it was on the tax rolls as a vacant lot.
<4> just talking about the land rcane.
<3> No its called prop 15, Property limitation tax.
<2> its who you know.....
<8> i paid over $15k to teh school district alone, even thou I had no children :-/
<3> Property can only be charged 1% of value when purchased +1% more per year
<7> wow
<7> nice
<3> so 5000 is after 14 years of purchase
<3> People who dont have any property tax limitation in their government are ****ed. they can get taxed out of their home.
<8> FT: yea, florida is like that, but only on your principle residence. AND it gets reset when you move.
<3> Abusive Domain or User
<3> Yes it resets when it moves
<3> Avwerage guy who bought a house last year in berkeley probably pays 8k in taxes
<8> right now, all the cities are patting themselves on teh back "we have a balanced budget".. yea, because you are raking in the dough now.. and spending it like they were on speed... once housing levels off, those cities are going to be ****ed big time
<8> "no tax increases this year.. let's blow an extra 25million on frivilous ****"
<3> If you figure an average of 700k plus special ***essments
<1> once the electricity goes out and doesn't come back on, I would get out of the city as fast as possible
<3> Though I dont know that the average was
<4> heheh
<3> I know the law was 550k and the high was several million
<3> The mean was probably 650k
<4> Feliz, thats why you buy a generator and keep 30 gallons of gas stored in the tank of your boat.
<8> ours run around 2% + 1500 special ***essments a year in south florida
<3> Condos are selling for 500k
<3> Damn I couldnt afford it today
<8> Heh.. taxes on my new home is very low. How low? You do not even need escrow :-)
<3> Well its time for Brit!
<1> fema, I'm broke.. I'm just going to have to take over a mall like in Dawn of the Dead
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