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<0> Iraq, a domestic eavesdropping program and the government's response to Hurricane Katrina.
<0> Former president Jimmy Carter alluded to a difficult moment for the Bush administration when he mentioned the lingering racial divide revealed by Hurricane Katrina last August.
<1> For the third time in as many years, leftists politicized a funeral service. And the most outspoken partisans present were a failed former president and a man who once bestowed an award on Moammar Qaddafi.
<0> Saying the struggle for equal rights was not yet over, Carter said: "We only have to recall the color of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi -- those who were most devastated by Katrina -- to know that there are not yet equal opportunities for all Americans."
<0> WTF?!?!?!?
<0> HOW ****ING DARE HE!
<2> dam lefits
<1> After the good reverend finished equating U.S. troops with terrorists a section that drew a two-minute-long standing ovation at a funeral
<0> Reverend Joseph Lowery, who along with Martin Luther King Junior founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, openly questioned the priorities of the White House and the premises of the US-led war in Iraq.
<0> Lowery said no weapons of m*** destruction were found in Iraq but that there were "weapons of misdirection" employed in the United States.
<0> "For war billions more, but no more for the poor," he said to cheers and applause.
<1> with Donkeys like Carter...
<0> holy CRAP!
<0> these people are ****ing SICK
<3> it libral
<0> i'm shocked
<2> fact
<0> stunned
<3> 426: right ..that's the one I really found objectionable
<0> amazing
<0> using the death of this poor woman for political ****ing grand standing is soooo HUGE disrespectful
<1> well, St Wellstone is smiling
<4> I went to a funeral of a prominant liberal not long ago. Editor of New York times spoke. Ethan Hawk spoke and others...was hugely surprised and just concerned at the direct anti republican public comments made...at a funeral
<4> just stunned me
<4> same for yesterday
<4> Its a ****ing funeral keep it at that
<5> *tsk*!
<2> didn't watch it..so won't comment
<4> I have spoke at several funerals and I would never lower myself to disgrace the loved one by trying to push my politics at their funeral
<4> some things are just so simple in life
<3> I heard that part on the radio
<6> its -11F here today
<3> rond: did you speak at any funerals of people who were politically significant?
<4> To speak about their politics is one thing...to make a jab at the other side is something different
<4> and no I did not but my rule would still apply
<3> right
<4> I am a very decent human being
<3> then it's kind of irrelevant.
<4> No its not
<3> but hey, why change now
<4> **** off timur
<3> yes, it actually is.
<4> your such an elitist ***w
<4> ***
<3> I would never debase myself by..erm.. being relevant
<3> yeah, having a sense of reality is horribly elitist.
<7> i'm disgusted with the whole crowd... using a funeral for political grandstanding is contenptable
<3> I see bad choices and dead people
<3> wb Oc
<8> hey
<3> Oc: question, if you went to a funeral of a major political figure, in your eulogy, would you speak to the accomplishments and views of the deceased?
<0> republicans need to start protesting the **** out of Jimmy Carter
<0> whereever he goes, protest his ***
<8> Timur: yes
<0> SHUT UP CARTER!
<3> Oc: me too
<0> freakin peanut farmer
<3> but according to rond, I'm an elitist for thinking thusly. :)
<0> go home you piece of ****
<8> you don't have to be totally non-controversial to avoid being unnecessarily offensive
<8> on a personal level
<9> nice i see the topics here are as slanted as always... bush is the ***hole silly
<3> I agree
<9> and you are too for ****ling him
<0> shut up you peanut farmer supporter
<8> Carter is not a peanut farmer ... he's a nukuler engineer
<4> Muhammad Liberals are prone to speak out about there politics in times and places that call for not doing that
<9> of course
<9> lol
<3> isn't he the one who started mispronouncing it? I mean, as president
<9> its never appropriate to criticize the king
<4> don't know what it is about them that makes them think there opinions fit in every situation but its been my expercience it happens too often
<3> there's a time and a place
<9> yeah, you're all on the wrong side of history
<3> but if the person being eulogized is famous for advocating a cause/set of causes, don't see why it's inappropriate to acknowledge that
<8> that's why we're wealthy, healthy and generally peaceful?
<9> generally peaceful lol
<9> your country probably has the highest body count since end of WWII
<3> as peaceful as a superpower can afford to be, given the context
<3> nah
<9> 3 mil in vietnam, blasted
<8> Muhammad: rofl
<9> peaceful
<8> we lost vietnam
<9> iraq invasion under the pretext of self defense
<9> thats also very peaceful
<3> we didn't lose 3 mil in Vietnam
<6> The U.S. is as peaceful as it can be while maintaining its position in the world
<3> they did
<6> Nothing wrong with that
<4> Well I guess we could have let stalin take over he had a peacful record
<3> Herz: exactly
<9> we killed 3 million
<3> ok, and?
<3> that's being a superpower
<9> lol
<3> people opposing us tend to die in numbers
<9> yeah, being a superpower means you gotta wack a lotta people
<3> and so?
<3> pretty much
<9> even in foreign nations, who've never threatened u
<9> across oceans
<3> nope
<9> we gotta still come there to OFF millions
<8> it would be interesting to be able to compare what the world would look like "if" ... but we can't, we can only speculate
<3> nations who are threatening or have been threatening and/or have a likelihood of being threatening
<2> it amerca it bad
<4> Muhammed your getting confusing on your yous and we's
<6> Why are you feeding the troll?
<6> Honestly
<8> there was an interesting Star Trek that illustrated the idea The Guardian of Time or some such
<6> He comes to this channel with the nick Muhammad to America-bash
<4> thought it was a fun statement
<3> yeah, just ignore. :)
<8> where the US stayed out of World War 2 and the Nazis won
<3> covad.net isn't as bad as rogers.com or btinternet - yet
<3> Oc; right, good episode, that
<2> Nazis would have lost with or without US participation...just might have taken longer
<8> how doing what looks right at the time can have disastrous consequences, or vice versa
<8> DeDannan: but you don't know whether the world at this point in time would have been better or worse as a result
<8> playing "what if" is fraught with peril
<2> OcDoc, of course not...
<2> "what if" can be interesting...
<10> Hmmm, don't know about that.... US provided spam and trucks to the soviets, and also provided food and planes to the brits...
<8> it's fun but useless in the real world
<2> OcDoc, so are a lot of things...irc among them
<8> it's not only a game with billions of factors intertwined, but the game itself is chaotic rather than complex
<11> girl on the left is cute one on the rigth has hella bad red eye
<11> http://photobucket.com/albums/f361/lthottie4lyfe/?action=view¤t=100_0679.jpg
<8> so that slight changes in the starting conditions can result in dramatically different outcomes
<8> AKA "the butterfly effect"
<3> brb .. enjoy, folks
<8> okay, busy sched at work ... I hope Comet fixed the ircpolitics.org software ... I couldn't get on from work yesterday
<12> probably did, this place is her life
<12> arent too many safe havens left for bushies
<13> ocdoc heya
<13> hillary clinton the next hitler
<3> Sting: uh. .wha?
<13> dem swill lose again after that clap trap funural for king
<2> Herzen, if you're interested..just read an interesting work on the origins of WW1..."Europe's Last Summer", by David Fromkin...short, 300pages, but good read..
<13> that wasnt a funural it was a bashing and a fund raiser
<3> DeD: did I give you the link to Black Lamb, Grey Falcon (excerpts)
<2> just ordered his "Peace to End all Peace", same author..about the aftermath..
<12> maybe bushies should stay where they belong, and not show up places where everything isnt perfectly scripted and rehearsed
<2> Timur, no..would like it though
<3> sec
<12> where people might actually use their freedoms
<3> DeD: http://knigite.abv.bg/en/rw/
<13> timur ever ear her speeches she sounds angry sounds like hitler
<2> 10/4
<12> i'm sure this is the place to come to here people support domestic spying without warrants, right?
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