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<2> the % of fed budget devoted to education is so tiny i don't understand the fixation with it
<3> Linus- so, continue with your proposal to fix education
<4> Linus thats why i am saying make it free
<5> In my opinon in the CS arena the best are the self educated simply because CS is a never ending self education
<4> a smarter people are a more healthy people
<1> Linus: people in the US are, often, 1. incredibly ****ing stupid, and 2. anti-intellectual (encouraged by the culture) and the ones ranting loudest 3. had crappy edu. experiences themselves or 'made bad choices' in HS.
<5> and the bulk of those with a degree stop after school
<2> KoBushi, every puiblic school dist should have the same per pupil revenue
<4> see i hate that ****
<2> its so disparate now
<2> within a state at least
<6> KoBushi, no I am not thinking like that.... but ya know to keep people safe letting them have their own countries... and live there... I dunno I think freedom of speech is important to fight for.. we here in America in the past shed a lot of blood for that right... and I don't think that another society should be allowed to come in and take that right away because they have different beliefs
<4> i hate that entire attitude of "Americans are stupid"
<1> 426: Americans aren't, but the cultural attitude of denigrating education is.
<0> I don't think University's should be free
<4> Americans don't chant in the streets "DEATH TO (put some country name here)"
<1> Universities, even
<3> Linus- do you think finaces alone will fix education? I don't think it will.
<2> theres two districts side by side near me, one's per pupil revenue is almost $2k less per year
<1> Kob: necessary, but not sufficient.
<0> The fundamental problem with the education system in both Canada and the U.S.
<0> is that theres too many chiefs, not enough indians
<4> no one is denigrating education, there are those like myself who denigrate the wastefullness of SCHOOLS
<2> KoBushi, i already stated long ago to trim admin by a lot of baggage
<6> so I am just thinking out loud so to speak
<0> Meaning, too many administrators
<0> Too much money is lost in administration
<0> etc
<4> i mena lets face it going to school on a SPORTS scholarship is stupidity
<2> Herzen, ding
<3> Linus- but that ignores a larger part of the problem... the students
<7> look what happened here in the west...we get attacked and have peace rallies and anti-war protests.
<1> 426: as opposed to what tho
<5> Timur: 'made bad choices'
<2> KoBushi, ive listed some starting pts that would at least provide equal starting pts
<0> Eh
<3> Linus- thuse stuck in school districts and in school areas that are comprised of students unwilling to learn, have very little chance of learning themselves
<4> how about going to school on a MATH scholarship
<5> so I am part of that group
<2> oops
<0> Colleges need sports players for their teams
<2> opportunites
<0> the way they get them is giving out scholarships
<4> my little brother is a perfect example, went to Texas A&M on a football scholarship and is dumb as ****
<0> Nothing wrong with that if it allows an person without opportunity to get an education they wouldn't otherwise
<1> rond: yes?
<5> you said it
<1> rond: you did, I was just referring to it.
<5> I know exactly where that came from
<3> Linus- when much of a student's day is taken up with metal detectors, locker searches, and worrying about the drug deal going down behind them, they aren't going to learn much
<1> it seems to have a lot to do with your views, such as they are.
<4> eventually got thrown out because he was more into partying and being Mister Football than he was into getting an actual education
<5> what that made bad choice then and over came them
<5> ?
<2> well, for really bad probglem kids, id develop a day school system not unlike a juvenile hall environment except they go home at night
<5> and have not sense really
<4> i think sports scholarships should be banned myself
<8> If Chuck Norris were a nation, he would be the world's fifth largest economy.
<1> what that what what?
<4> Mojo yeh but it wouldn't help his toupee
<7> oh man...you'd get a roundhouse kick to the head for that kind of blasphemy
<7> if we lived hthere
<8> Once Chuck Norris was asked "who would win in a fight, him or Van Damme?" to which he replied "I have more talent in one whisker of my beard than that punk." When Van Damme heard wind of this he challenged Chuck, Chuck stood back plucked a single whisker from his beard. The whisker then proceeded to dominate Van Damme, then make love to his wife.
<2> if the state is required to educate a kid until 16, then the state should draw the line with criminally inclined kids and separate them
<1> I'm glad you overcame your bad choice, but 1. you're not the only one who 'made bad choices', or 2. whose bad choices influence their views on education, and 3. that doesn't speak to your understanding education in any case.
<3> Herzen I don't have a problem with sports scholarships... however I think that schools should be required to match academic scholarships available to thier sports cholarships available
<1> Linus: agree
<1> Kob: no? I do.
<4> Van Damm doesn't actually KNOW karate
<1> sports scholarships should be banned
<1> in favor of more academic scholarships.
<3> Herzen however, I strongly diagree with what seems like a common practice of those on sports scholarships meaning a free ticket to not have to try in school
<4> totttttaly agree with that Timur
<5> Timur and 3 years of part time teaching and deciding to get a MS in education late in life does not make you an expert yet either
<4> why not just make schools FREE
<5> please quite trying to represent yourself thus
<1> schools should be about schooling. learning. not sports, not to that extent.
<9> yeah Timur, and they can replace the Rose Bowl with a spelling bee
<2> i don't understand why kids get away with violence and intimidation agaisnt students and staff, something they would face prosecution for outside of school
<1> rond: a hell of a lot more than you, though.
<1> YYZ: that'd be great
<3> `426Hemi because someone still has to pay for the buildings, for the professors salaries, for the electricity, for the labs, etc
<5> A hell no
<1> YYZ: but thanks for pointing out the whole problem
<5> a little yes
<4> Kobushi you already pay for that **** anyway
<1> rond: infinitely more.
<4> you could make education free instead of "free health care"
<9> Timur, imagine the ratings, think of all the $$$ the spelling bee will generate!
<10> Abusive Domain or User
<5> but you are forgetting to factor in the education of owning (paying property taxes) and raising a child
<3> `426Hemi right, so how could it be made "free" ? all you'd be ding is shifting the burden MORe onto the tax payer
<7> Arnold Schwarzenegger plays racquetball with a waffle iron and a bowling ball
<2> public schools are free
<4> a smarter people are a healthier people
<5> owning = a house
<3> `426Hemi it wouldn't make it "Free" at all
<4> boohoohoooooo the pooor tax payer
<4> wahhwahhwahhhh
<2> they are free!
<4> dude taxes are a fact of life
<7> Arnold Schwarzenegger once used his genitals to knock down a 15-story building in Chicago
<2> noone pays tuition at public K-12 as far as I know
<11> arnold's genitals are probably all shriveled from steroid use
<3> `426Hemi yes, but it is foolish to claim it culd ever be made "free"
<1> I'm not forgetting those at all. I have already spoken about how vital parental involvement is. I have no idea why owning a house has a direct correlation to educational policy, though, or the notion of the value of education itself.
<2> ha!
<11> taking steroids shrinks the nads...
<3> because someone still has to pay for it; it can never be "free"
<4> Kobushi obviously "free" is relative to the conversation
<5> Paying for it
<4> nothing is free
<5> simple as that
<4> if its free, then someone fooled you real good
<2> isn't it already FREE?!?
<4> Linus i am talking all education
<2> i mean, as in tuition free?
<3> Linus- `426Hemi is referin to college level here
<2> like univ level?
<4> yeap
<2> oic
<5> if you don't own property in most states you don't really fund very much of the system
<1> paying for schools is one thing. Policy in how kids are educated is another.
<4> a smarter people are a healthier people
<3> Linus- but no, K-12 you have to pay tuition if you want to send your kid to a school you aren't zoned for
<2> `426, we don't have enough universities to take on everyone
<4> Ahhhhh Linus now you get to the key issue
<2> we're severely lacking cl***room space and profs for that size of student body
<4> so we HAVE to let some kids fall through the cracks of life in order to have room at the universities
<5> anyway I will just stay out of this anymore....I don't seem to qualify to have a valid opinion on this. Funny how that seems to end up with you on a lot of debates on here. There is a pattern
<4> Interesting!
<12> what's a good group to join for getting out the vote?
<13> hi
<13> the fucin islam channel banned my cartoon links :(
<2> that's nice
<14> some folk choose not to go to college.
<11> rond finally you realize you are not qualified to have such an arrogant opinion on this topic
<13> they hate free speech
<14> yes, den
<2> danish trolls speak english well
<9> Den, did you see the iranian holocaust cartoons?
<14> trolls?
<4> thats because they have "Free education" in Denmark
<4> =)
<2> rofl
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