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Comments:
<0> hi Gosseyn
<1> SF is one of the tiniest cities in the world
<2> the law will stay the way it is :)
<3> For now Roe is safe, when Stevens and/or Ginsburg retires it's history
<1> it's no bigger than most towns, yet it's called a city
<2> even with Bush's new conservative justices
<4> MrRod: yeah yeah sure !
<5> US-Male: It is.
<0> we're screwed when Ginsburg retires
<6> Well, I think that roberts would defend roe
<5> US-Male: SJ has a bigger population than SF.
<3> Stevens will go first he's 85
<7> Why are "we" screwed?
<6> but I think Alito wouldn't
<1> who's we? (as in "we're screwed")
<6> gloriae: all american men
<4> MrRod: that's from the homless they count twice
<0> We, as in people who don't like to see young women dying in emergency rooms from sepsis
<1> e-Hernick: why, is she going to take up prostitution?
<5> US-Male: There are more homeless in SF than SJ.
<7> if RvW is overturned, all that means is that abortion becomes a states' issue again, as it should be.
<0> Ever seen anyone die from sepsis?
<6> If abortion becomes illegal, men will have to pay child support for their unwanted children, instead of being able to brainwash their girlfriends into getting abortions. Overturning Roe would be awful for american males
<7> tilla: Oh, spare me the fevered pro-babykilling rhetoric.
<1> MrRod: that's because other towns buy bus tickets to send their homeless here
<4> MrRod: they all come over from SJ
<2> Gosseyn: It would displace people from their home state
<2> seeking abortion in other states
<0> Hey Gosseyn, I'm not a huge fan of abortion; but you know damn well what the alternative is
<4> oh NO coathangers!!!
<7> tilla: what, letting innocent preborn babies live?
<5> gloriae: I doubt SJ does that but, really, I wouldn't mind if they did.
<2> heh
<2> yeah
<4> I have yet to see anyone using a coathanger
<2> the day of the coathanger would come back :)
<0> Gosseyn, killing and mutilating young women.
<6> Gosseyn: the babies *must* be slaughtered since they are unwanted.
<1> oh boy
<3> I'd like to know how many women died from botched abortions before Roe, I doubt it was very many
<1> no fun here tonight
<6> Gosseyn: it is a necessary evil, but fortunately, we can harvest their tissue for medical purposes
<2> I'm not saying it's right... but it is still a bad idea to overturn abortion federal law
<4> e-Hernick: you mean the "young women" who die ?
<3> It's a very good idea to overturn it
<4> good point I guess
<6> Gosseyn: it would be very bad for the medical industry if it lost a million aborted fetuses a year to harvest for medical purposes
<7> Macer: RvW wasn't "federal law", it was legislating from the bench.
<6> that's the true reason why we need abortion
<0> Also...the pro-lifers are trying to overturn abortion but are pushing abstinence-only *** ed, and pushing conscience clauses so religious fascist pharmacists can deny women the means to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies. It's bull****.
<2> Rockfish1: it would force women to jump 3 states (possibly) to get an abortion
<2> it would increase runaways
<4> e-Hernick: seems cruel, but I guess you can harvest organs from the young women who die in those botched abortions. Well, remember it was your idea.
<7> "religious fascist pharmacists" <--- HOO boy.
<0> Yep, I went there Gosseyn. :)
<6> US-Male: abortions are safer than carrying a pregnancy to term
<5> Roe v. Wade being overturned won't change much. It certainly won't make abortion illegal in the US.
<2> dont' get me wrong.. i don't like abortion.. but i'd rather a woman had a chance after getting one
<0> If you can't dispense all legally-available medication, you shouldn't be a pharmacist.
<2> not in the US
<4> e-Hernick: that's irrelevant to anything anyone has said.
<6> US-Male: you have more chances of dying during birthing than of dying when you get an abortion
<2> but if you live in the middle of Arkansaas and all the states around you don't allow abortion
<2> then you have to hop states
<4> e-Hernick: not when the COATHANGERS come back
<2> and for a young woman who is usually teh highest percentage of people seeking abortion
<6> US-Male: that's an answer to your argument
<0> Macer, and states could make it illegal for you to do that; it's that way in some countries.
<6> the coathangers!!
<6> no
<2> that could be a life ruining moment
<6> that's a bad idea.
<4> e-Hernick: it was your argument
<3> Or maybe you could refrain from killing your child
<2> other than the ***
<5> Macer: You already have to travel far for an abortion in many parts of the country.
<2> :)
<6> Abortion must be plentyful.
<7> tilla: well, you DO know that the only 100% effective contraceptive method is for the woman to keep her legs together in the first place. And in fact, that's where the CHOICE belongs -- if a woman can't afford (financially, psychologically, etc) to have a child, she shouldn't be engaging in unprotected ***. Or *** of any kind, for that matter.
<8> MrRod yeah i remember reading that it was alerady quite difficult ot get an abortion in SD
<0> Gosseyn, WOW. That's the FIRST TIME I've EVER heard that argument.
<2> MrRod: I suppose.. but it would be worse if it was overturned
<4> e-Hernick: you claimed we could use medical tissue from the abortions. You must have meant from the coathanger victims ???
<5> Gosseyn: That's doesn't prevent emaculate conception. ;)
<2> and the statistic for runaway teens seeking abortions would rise
<7> MrRod: talk to Jesus about that one. :)
<8> emaculate abortion
<2> the statistic for teenage murder of a runaway would rise
<2> :)
<2> more bad things would come rather than a dead baby
<3> It should be overturned for one simple reason, the decision was wrong, abortion is not a constitutional right
<6> US-Male: no, we already to, from normally-aborted fetuses
<6> This is why we must support abortion: 1. Men need to be able to get rid of their unborn, unwanted children before they are born. 2. We need fetal tissue for medical purposes - without abortion and plentiful fetuses, medecine collapses.
<8> emaculate miscarriage
<5> Macer: At least in my state nothing would change without Roe v. Wade.
<9> what about the statistics for dead babies being killed?
<2> heh
<4> e-Hernick: what about the coathanger victims ???
<2> blah
<0> I've never had an abortion, personally.
<2> send them to the stem cell research lab in china
<4> e-Hernick: should we let that tissue go to waste? That's immoral.
<6> US-Male: there are no coathanger victims today because abortion is availaible in most places
<0> I know people who have, though, and if you met them I think you'd agree they made the right choice.
<7> "the coathanger victims"? <--- again, HOO boy.
<5> US-Male has coat hanger scratches on his head.
<6> US-Male: no, we must use the fetal tissue!
<2> which is a country that will be years ahead of us in 20 years
<4> e-Hernick: but not NOW, SD has made them illegal
<6> We must encourage women to get free abortions
<4> e-Hernick: the coathanger RETURNS
<2> because of their lack of appealing to the happy hearted people :)
<0> My SIL got an abortion years ago, and this is someone who really has no business being a mother.
<6> We must encourage women to get pregnant just so they can get abortions so we can harvest fetal tissue!
<8> arcade how are you going to shape what is socially accceptable?
<2> hahahah
<6> some women will become fetal tissue producers
<6> we should buy their fetuses
<7> If South Dakota wanted to treat abortion properly, they should charge SD residents who go OUTSIDE SD to get abortions with murder.
<6> it's a profitable job
<0> e-Hernick, that's all some people think we are anyway. Baby machines.
<4> e-Hernick: should we let that tissue go to waste? That's very immoral.
<10> oax: That's of course a very good question.
<6> US-Male: I strongly encourage we use it
<5> Gosseyn: That's a bit silly.
<10> oax: Another way to go is to increase the 'coolness' of having kids.
<3> Goss, even if it is murder, South Dakota couldn't charge them if it didn't occur in South Dakota
<7> MrRod: is it? If you commit murder in another state, you're still guilty of murder.
<5> Gosseyn: Sure it is.
<8> arcade with MTV "rock the maternity ward" campaigns?
<2> people make mistakes.. i'd rather a teenager goes and gets an abortion and kills an embryo.. than try to go far as hell.. hitchiking if necessary... just to find a doctor that doesn't have to tell her family .. wind up getting raped and murdered on the side of the road by some sicko truck driver...
<6> US-Male: also, my abortion maximization plan shall raise the number of abortions tenfold within ten years! This is a plan america can rally behind! Ten million abortions a year by 2015!
<4> e-Hernick: OK so that's resolved. We will use the tissue from any women who die in botched self-performed abortions
<11> Gosseyn: Where murder is illegal also..
<10> oax: hahaha :)
<5> Gosseyn: That's true. In the state where you commit the murder, not in the state you reside in.
<2> which is what will happen to a lot of teens scared and confused over their own mistake
<7> Ah, hell.
<4> e-Hernick: then in that case, it doesn't matter who dies, as long as we get tissue to make a profit
<6> US-Male: no, I'm talking about legal abortoin
<7> that's a shame.
<5> Gosseyn: Hey, makes sense to me.
<4> e-Hernick: legla abortion isnt relevant. Profit is relevant.
<7> I was so hoping that SD's prosecutors could dog babykilling mothers even when they leave the state.
<11> Gosseyn: By your logic, I should be arrested for using a certain drug in one state where it happens to be legal once I return to my home state where it isnt?
<6> US-Male: we need to operate more abortion clinics, coathangers are not clean and produce contaminated tissue
<2> better a dead baby that wasn't conscious than a dead woman who could have not been murdered
<7> icmps: why not?
<4> e-Hernick: the tissue can be sterilized. Besides, who cares as long *** we makea profit ?
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