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<0> I doubt they said 2+2=6
<0> er
<0> 5
<1> The very foundations of the gun control movement were rocked today by the results of a survey taken by the National ***ociation of Chiefs of Police (NACOP). In a nutshell, the survey shows that the nation's top law enforcement officers believe that average citizens can be trusted to responsibly own firearms; that criminals ignore gun control laws; and that concealed carry laws reduce crime.
<1> Specifically, the survey revealed that 93 percent of chiefs and sheriffs felt that citizens should be able to purchase firearms for sport and self defense; 73 percent opposed so-called "one gun a month" laws; 96 percent believed that criminals ignore gun control laws and; 63 percent supported laws that allow citizens to carry defensive firearms as a means to control crime.
<2> US-Male 7. The proof of quotient rule for derivatives is incorrect and the fallacy is not acknowledged.
<1> i guess you can teach coppers new ideas
<0> gopp: so write your congressman
<2> havard is a private school
<2> my school don't teach new calculus
<3> 63% on concealed carry among police chiefs?
<2> they teach calculus, hmm but I wish they did
<2> maybe I would do better
<3> well, that's a good argument that concealed carry shouldn't be universal and applicable in all cities
<1> e-hernick: what is interesting is "as a means to control crime".. so they recognize that concealed carry by private citizens control crime rates
<1> i'ld imagine concealed carry itself would be ahigher percentage
<3> I think that some cities wouldn't benefit from concealed carry, even though most of the country will, and 37% of police chiefs agree with me that in their city, concealed carry may not be such a good idea
<2> they don't even teach L'Hopital's rule
<2> US-Male how can you go through calculus with out "" L'Hopital's rule""
<0> blasphemy
<3> apostasy!
<2> For example, Harvard Calculus trained students suffer a natural disadvantage in subsequent vector calculus courses, complex variables course, and real analysis courses where limits arise in important ways.
<0> every calc student must learn it, if only just to lrean how to pronounce it
<3> infidel republicrats!
<0> *learn
<2> US-Male did you learn it
<1> e-hernick: oh man, you never took basic logic have you. 37% of the police chiefs do NOT agree with you. You just established a false dichotomy
<0> yeah everyone learns it
<3> Lupine: of course I have
<2> not at havard text book
<0> glad I never went there
<2> it not even the textbook
<3> Lupine: but you brought a meaningless poll as evidence of something.
<2> that my point, this poltical correct
<3> Lupine: and I am showing that numbers can be twisted.
<1> for example, 63% could agree concealed carry controls crime, 85% could agree with concealed carry personally, 95% could agree that it is a constitional right of a free citizen
<4> That's not a meaningless poll
<2> society
<2> and this new math
<1> e-hernick: you must be ignorant of how the police cheifs have always been on the brady campaign.. this is a *m***ive* turn around for them
<3> Well, it is meaningless when it comes to my argument about concealed carry.
<2> US-Male all the information is here
<0> see why I don't put much value on high-priced universities ? If you learn it properly, the knowledge is the same wherever you learn it
<2> http://www.mathematicallycorrect.com/
<0> Harvard tuition is robbery anyway
<1> e-her: well, I do not recognize you as being sufficiently expert enough on concealed carry :P
<3> I believe that concealed carry should be legal across most of the country, but that large cities should be able to make it legal or not within their borders, without state interference.
<2> US-Male I was partcting a havard common midterm from last semster, today and I was able to do some of the problems
<5> US: because it also confers status in competitive applications, depending upon the job.
<2> all the equation, of deverity, it seemd like something my school would give, but easyier
<0> for some people maybe
<1> e-hernick: just like they should have the right to ignore or restrict the 1st amendment, the 4th.. the 5th.. yea! pick and choose your rights
<4> The cities exist at the discretion of the state government, the state is in charge
<2> Timur bs, it just for el88ist liberal to waiste money
<1> timur: especially in non-technical disciplines
<0> but once you are on the job for a few years, not many people care if you attended Harvard
<2> and sometimes you won't get a job, if you go to havard
<3> Lupine: I do not believe that the right to bear a handgun in your pants is a constitutional guarantee.
<3> Lupine: a musket on your shoulder, I'm all for that.
<2> US-Male some times, havard or high priced school, won't get you the job
<5> Lup: it depends, but certainly, for example, in political positions, or academic ones, or ones involving research.
<2> because you cost to mch
<1> e-hernick: good point, freedom of speech does not apply to the radio, television, or the internet
<5> gopp: no, it actually does; and really, for you to criticize it without knowing proper English is pretty ironic.
<1> the 4th doesn't protect you against any forensic science..
<4> Or newspapers, even
<2> US-Male that what my arugment, why spend far more money, to learn the same thing
<2> Timur I have a disablity
<2> Timur thus I mispell or such
<3> Lupine: correct. the 1st amendment isn't very strong these days
<2> I don't make an excuse of it , unless you do
<0> gopp: it may well get you the job, but can you live up to it ?
<1> timur: right, but in hard sciences... your ability to secure a job depends more on the knowledge/skills of the individual.
<3> Lupine: many forms of speech are prohibited
<4> Such as?
<2> Timur acutally I work hard in school, and take rigous math courses, where I must learn a lot of the subject, not just what seem poltical correct
<3> Lupine: such as speaking from the heart, by baring one's skin in the heart area
<2> my school is rigious, and it not a high priced school
<5> gopp: well, fair enough, but people with disabilities still sometimes attend, for example, Harvard. Rare, but it does happen. Depends on the type and severity of the disability as well, in part, of course.
<0> you make a few mistakes, people start saying "Oh, must be that Harvard education"
<3> such a blasphemous speech will incur sever fines
<0> it could actually be a detriment
<4> You cannot be fined for "blasphemous speech"
<3> Rockfish: they don't call it that
<0> it's like being named Einstein...
<5> gopp: and I wish you all the luck, but it still doesn't provide you with the standing to dismiss the value of a degree from, say, Harvard.
<0> ya **** up once and everyone says "NICE job Einstein!"
<4> Whatever they call it, you can't be fined for it
<3> Rockfish: but let's consider fines for swearing or fines for showing breasts on tv
<6> US-Male: Of me and my 3 siblings I'm the only one who is employed right now.
<2> Timur I was able to do some of the problems, on last semster midterm for havard student
<0> MrRod: good gawd
<2> for calculus
<3> Rockfish: that's the government fining you for blasphemous speech
<4> Swearing is not blasphemy
<0> MrRod: good thing you are helping the average
<3> where blasphemy is defined by the FCC as words offensive to the God of the USA.
<6> US-Male: I guess.
<7> yo
<2> Timur you would have a arugment, may and I give it to you for grad or phd level
<8> No. It's the government prosecuting you for being a typical liberal.
<2> yes for grad or phd research havard is great, but for undergrad, who cares where you go
<5> sorry, don't understand what you mean.
<5> grad schools care.
<2> bs,
<3> those words are f--- s--- c--- m-----f----- c---s----- t--- p---, and more!
<2> I seen people at my community get accetped to yale, and havard
<1> Well, at any good school, the *quality* of the education depends more on the student than anything else. But, that is not only what they look for
<8> Why it is liberals want to show their body parts to everyone?
<2> also, I bet a student magamacumlude at my univeristy
<2> would also
<3> such words are censored and uttering them on the airwaves means that the government will fine you.
<2> get accepted to havard grad school, becuase of his grades
<5> gopp: fine, but what % of people applying for such grad schools are accepted from your school, vs., say, Harvard?
<0> I would advise most people not to spend their extra cash on Harvard. Sure if you can get a full scholarship go for it
<0> nothing wrong with it
<2> Timur well student from my school, are already accpted to my school grad program, if thier gpa is high
<5> I bet a magna cum laude from your school would be considered the equivalent of a B student at Harvard for admission purposes for most grad schools.
<0> if I had a full scholarship I might go there
<2> so if I go to havard, I bet I can easily get accepted to havard grad school
<2> Timur b student, hahah
<5> yes, *your* school's grad program. Not grad programs at the most highly regarded ones, which I thought was what was being discussed.
<2> k
<2> if your a undergrad at havard, of course it easyier to get accepted to havard grad program
<0> actually Harvard grades are quite inflated
<5> gopp: right, if you go to Harvard as an undergrad, or a near equivalent (Yale, MIT, Stanford, etc.) you'd have a better chance than otherwise.
<2> Timur my magacum lude has a advantge over havard student
<6> US-Male: If you pay that much money you expect to get good grades.
<2> that is he didn't take new calculus
<5> gopp: advantage in what sense?
<0> MrRod, apparently so
<2> he has far more knowledge
<5> how do you know that?
<2> in math, thus may do better in grad math
<2> Timur becuase, they waterdown calculus at havard
<0> MrRod but if they all get A's did they all learn the same amount /
<9> praxis9, maybe because we don't really understand what the founders meant about the right to keep and bear arms. maybe we think it applies to legs, ***es and genitals as well.
<2> the text book they use, is waterdown
<2> for poltical correctness
<5> so you claim; and it may be true, but I have no way of knowing that one way or the other.
<0> or did half of the A's really deserve a B
<9> arr arr arr
<5> political correctness in math?
<5> explain that, please
<2> evdince
<6> US-Male: It's not about learning. It's about grades.
<5> I mean, linear algebra is linear algebra.
<5> what evidence?
<2> A http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471207926/104-0952131-3619907?v=glance&n=283155
<6> US-Male: You pay for it and you get the grades.
<2> edvince b
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