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<0> lol
<0> chomsky is a radical leftwing liberal, dumb***
<1> Timur .. the Wall Street Journal is often touted by the left as highly biased right.
<1> and Drudge does not lean left. I'm sorry .. but you are just plain wrong about that one.
<2> actually, it's some bias on one hand, and the idea of marketing what people want to make sales on the other
<2> CB: that's a quote from the same UCLA study
<2> so
<3> don't you people get the idea? the media has to be patriotic, speak with one voice, that of our glorious leader
<2> you're free to agree with one part of the study and disagree with other parts, but that would just call into question the validity of either your views or those of the study.
<0> comet Drudge himself doesn't, but since he mostly quotes other media, and since the other media is left biased, a survey of the drudge report is also left biased
<4> why is everone always debating in this channel?
<2> lex: because that's its purpose, generally..
<4> don't you get bored?
<3> durh
<0> of course not
<4> nothing nice to say
<4> you guys are like robots
<4> mean, evil robots
<3> lexb it does get boring if the ops go stupid, but how often is that?
<0> lexb: you want #puppys_and_flowers
<3> lexb you are not a real american are you?
<4> why not find ***? *** is the best and surp***es debating
<0> are you offering?
<3> it wears off
<1> Drudge is simply a place where you go to link to other stories. But the problem with Drudge .. they cannot control what stories he links to. And when Drudge links to a story .. millions of people read it.
<1> and this story about the teachers is one shining example
<1> you won't read about that in the MSM
<0> what is MSM
<2> here's a good critique of the UCLA study's methodology
<2> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002723.html#more
<1> mainstreet media
<0> oh
<0> Timur: it's not a valid critique
<1> the lewinsky story is another shining example
<1> the MSM planned to bury it
<2> panini: how / why is it not valid?
<1> and when Drudge published it they said it was "irresponsible" to do so
<1> but not irrespnsible to bury it?
<2> looks like the 'valence factor' has a built-in quantitative bias
<1> and the left proceeded to do what they always do in these cases .. they shoot the messenger.
<0> timur it's just some nut upset over the results
<2> panini: no, it's not a nut, but another academic who's addressing the methodology in a careful manner
<4> Kr***Na if *** gets old you ain't doing it right
<1> don't criticize Clinton for what he did .. criticize Drudge for telling people about it.
<0> he's pretty clueless about statistics
<2> is he
<2> did you see the chart addressing the valence aspect?
<0> yup
<2> ok, so how does that demonstrate cluelessness about statistics
<2> he pretty much broke it down according to the study's own statistical model
<0> he admits later that he doesn't even understand the equations
<3> look at the big picture,, "study says media has left wing bias", so how to fix? by being more right wing, and thats the point, trying to make the media more right wing
<1> on another note .. we look at another animal lover and what he does .. compared to what he says.
<1> Michael Jackson is being sued for unpaid bills by the veterinarian who tends to the pop star's exotic animals at his Neverland ranch, which the singer has not occupied since being acquitted of child molestation charges last June.
<3> study says "america is a fascist state"
<2> no, that's not what he admits
<1> he picked up and moved out .. now the animals on on their own?
<1> Martin Dinnes, owner of Dinnes Memorial Veterinary Hospital, alleges that Jackson owes $91,602 in veterinary bills.
<2> read the part beggining with " [Update: "
<1> Now his precious animals are someone else's problems
<0> right, that's where he admits that others have corrected him
<3> meat pies
<2> and the nature of the critique is not at all undermined
<2> it's called humility, which is fine, while still using a fairly rigorous methodological critique
<2> the valence issue still exists in the study
<5> any canadians ?
<2> "I'm on record (and even with a bit of evidence) as being skeptical of the view that the relationship between ideology and citational preferences is a simple one. And I'll also emphasize here my skepticism that political opinions are well modeled by a single dimension. But whatever the empirical relationship between political views and citational practices is, it seems unlikely that ideological multiplication captures it accurately."
<3> statistics is a whore, you just have to ask the right question and pay the money and you get what you want
<2> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002724.html
<5> MORE than 500 army troops, backed by helicopters, armoured vehicles and artillery, will turn downtown Winnipeg into an armed camp as part of a military exercise to train soldiers for the modern battlefield.
<5> Exercise Charging Bison will unfold for seven days and nights beginning April 30 next year in what is believed to be the largest urban warfare training exercise of its kind ever held in Canada.
<3> "PUSH POLLING"
<5> The military may also recruit drama students from the University of Manitoba to play the roles of demonstrators or insurgents.
<3> the military may shoot them
<2> I'm not claiming to have shown that G&M's finding of quantitative media bias is an artefact. I do ***ert, though, that multiplying ideologies to get citation utilities (and through them, citation probabilities) is a choice that makes very implausible psychological claims, for which no evidence is presented. And fitting ideology-multiplying models to data generated by processes with very different properties can definitely create systemat
<1> PowerPage.org posts an unusual report claiming that Apple would be releasing 42inch and 50inch Plasma Displays at Macworld San Francisco.
<1> s3ven7 good lord what is canada preparing for?
<5> the demonstrators = anti war protestors they are now considered terrorists by our government
<3> democracy
<1> ahh
<0> i think he misunderstood the equations, and the ***umptions behind them
<5> they are doing military drills in the middle of major canadian cities to quarantine the 'insurgents' they're calling anti war protesters 'insurgents'
<3> if you are not for us you are against us
<3> kanukistan is a zio-fascist hell hole
<0> he plugged some random numbers into a statistical software package ("R") and thinks he proved something
<1> I think that Austrailia, being such noble people, should take in as many muslims as France has. Then when they start rioting .. we can sit back and laugh at their nobel purposes :)
<5> they are training to quell 'domestic terrorism' = peacefull protestors, gun owners, people who don't agree with government
<6> hey
<3> CometBaby, you still denying the canadian indian holocaust?
<6> CB!!!
<1> hi swiggy :)
<6> Canada likes to deny holocausts
<2> zio-fascist?
<6> it was the home of many of the leading Nazi Holocaust Deniers for many years
<2> Swig: I know
<3> what canadumb did to zundel yesterday they do today to all who dare not agree
<2> a lot of them still come on irc
<2> so do a lot of .au users, sadly
<2> they don't agree because he's a lying sack of ****.
<5> they are doing a test run on how to lock down a city during a national emergency situation
<3> martin? or his zionist puppetmaster?
<2> no, Zundl, and ***hole holocaust deniers.
<2> like you seem to be
<5> swig here in canada, we put people in jail for denying the holocaust, fear our hate laws, think how we tell you do
<6> s3ven7: no you don't - Zundel was deported, and Keegstra was fired from his job.
<3> the holocaust is anti-german HATE speech
<6> Holocaust Denial is government policy in Canada - even the gov'ts own broadcaster says so
<2> no, it's well established fact.
<1> Kr***Na are you denying the Austrialians took aboriginal children away from their parents?
<2> CB: this guy is a nazi and should be devoiced
<1> agree
<3> at least we did not murder them like the canadians
<1> Kr***Na devoiced for lameness
<2> thanks
<1> that account is dead now
<6> actually the white australians m***acred the Aborigines, and denied them any rights at all until 1968
<1> he won't be getting voice on that account again
<2> Swig: right
<2> there are still problems in .au regarding that
<2> maybe that's why .au has so many holocaust deniers..
<1> his comment to me was interesting .. since I have never discussed this issue
<1> [05:23] <+Kr***Na> CometBaby, you still denying the canadian indian holocaust?
<1> hahaha
<2> it's more of a local issue so any holocaust has to be denied
<6> timur: or maybe they're openly racist, just like Candaa
<2> Swig: many seem to be, though I'm sure not all
<2> it could be the selectivity of irc.. :) to a degree
<6> timur: true
<2> so, gonna see Munich today with my ex-gf.. hope it's good
<6> I bought King Kong, the original, on DVD
<2> cool
<6> would like to see the 2005 remake
<6> not that 1976 POS
<6> got an essay back today - yikes, only a B+
<6> need straight As this semester
<7> there's nothing wrong with failure
<6> well I intend to succeed
<7> its just a grade
<6> As look better on transcripts than A-s
<6> but a killer thesis is what I'm really after
<7> talent and charisma will get you further than A's vs A-'s
<6> why not have both
<6> 2 good reasons are better than 1
<7> just saying, no point getting upset about a grading system :)
<6> thanks for your input
<6> if I had all As this semester, I'd have 3.95 GPA for my coursework. That would serve me very well for grad school
<6> that and my masterpiece thesis will guarantee me a spot in any of the bottom PhD programs ;)
<7> heh :)
<2> Swig: nice job@
<2> I'll graduate with like a 3.83
<7> if thats your ambition, then work hard and achieve it :D
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