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Comments:
<0> sgtsla: Walmart isnt very characteristic of the 'economic system' or capitalism
<1> sgtsla: Dubya.....Dubai.....Conicidence?
<2> sgtsla: they pay what the job is worth
<3> its the king
<0> And they use the government to perpetuate their growth
<3> so why are the walmart kids getting that much money are they doing what they are worth?
<0> And stifle competition-- to stifle the controls the market has to prevent such exploitation.
<2> yes
<0> It's NOT the market.. its government.
<3> why icmps?
<4> 21:40:55 05/03/2006 LOG
<3> you cant answer that question because your just using old rhetoric
<0> sgtsla: Walmart exists as it does today because of anti-competitive regulation, for one.
<2> like what?
<0> panini: me?
<2> yes
<3> competition breeds ruthless marketplace tactics that force is then cohercive and manipulative hayak can lick my balls.
<0> minimum wage, subsidies, etc
<0> "free trade" agreements
<2> i agree about the first one, minimum wage
<3> no walmart is the most competitive they used your value to the Nth degree
<2> you'll have to be more specific abotu the others
<0> panini: http://walmartwatch.com/ I dont purport to know everything about walmart
<3> icmps have you taken the political comp*** quiz?
<0> sgtsla: a few times
<2> or rather, i agree that minimum wage is anti-competitive. but I do NOT agree that walmart exists because of that
<3> where did you register?
<0> agt: I'm like 100% libertarian I think .. but IMO i'm more of an anarcho-capitalist now.
<5> anyone seen ocdoc around lately?
<3> hahah really?
<0> He was around last week I think
<3> well you are a product of your enviroment
<6> hi Rebec
<5> icmps ah...what are you guys talking about
<5> hi Timur
<2> Rebec: walmart
<7> Rebec!
<5> hey PO
<7> What's shakin'?
<5> walmart
<5> hmmm
<5> PO nothing exciting
<3> DO you see how competition in a capitalist culture can be cohersive though?
<7> sgtsla, even a little competition does htat, and you can't eliminate competition.
<7> Capitalism simply makes the competition that's already going to be there into a driving force.
<3> I want to start a buisness, I have to compete with Walmart so i use ruthless marketplace tactics to achive this- this is where and when individual morals are discarded
<3> Thats why i asked you the question DO you love life?
<3> competition isnt the driving force its a value which i like the driving force is greed
<3> Its mankinds biggest paradox
<3> the quality of an individuals life vs the longevity of life and mankind itself
<8> thx panini
<3> the exsperiance vs the exsperiance
<2> sgtsla: can you give an example of a "ruthless marketplace tactic"?
<5> night
<3> selling off american jobs oversee's
<2> that's not ruthless, that's good business
<3> paying the lowest ammount possible in these countries
<2> try another example
<3> panini imagine if you were starving and couldn't pay rent
<2> again, that's not ruthless, that's good business
<2> lol
<3> same thing then
<3> ruthlessness is good buisness
<2> here we go, resorting to the mythical poor starving person argument
<3> mythical?
<2> yes
<3> hahahaahhaa how do you relate yourself to the world ?
<3> hahahhahhaa
<2> every liberal argument ends up at the mythical starving person argument
<0> sgtsla: 3.75,-4.92
<3> ??
<3> oh nm
<0> sgtsla: Wrong test, lol. I've always been in the 4th quadrant. This time I'm towards the middle of that quadrant
<2> sgtsla: in other words, you are only arguing based on *emotions*, not actual facts
<3> panini by jobs being sold off to other places will people eat less and perhaps stave because they have no job?
<3> what do you mean your working it
<2> if jobs are being moved elsewhere, it's because those ppl work harder/cheaper/better
<3> im allways in the third quadrent i was south of nelson mandella and im more left wing then the dali lamma
<9> who'd have guessed. :-/
<2> it means if you're an american worker you no longer get a free ride... you have to actually *earn* your wages
<3> harder maybe but i doubt it better probabbly not cheeper ding ding ding ding
<3> thats not fair panini
<3> rmemebr we are all products of our enviroment and commercialism says we will find happiness in material wealth. we want fancy things because we are programed and then our quality of life becomes to costly and then its allowed to be evacuated from us
<3> were told we need to have money for more material wealth so unions and and social movements fight for it
<2> sgtsla: then why don't you rise above (transcend) your programming?
<3> but needs and wants have become themselves their own ends
<9> What in the name of all that is holy and just are you prattling about?
<3> i do so much that i can acctually empathize with people i wont even meet
<2> you do so much what?
<3> people who might not even exist becuase i cannot touch or see them
<9> good God. This guy is the left-wing equivalent of gopp
<2> lol
<9> Can talk for half an hour without formulating a single coherent thought.
<3> I talk thats it and i try my personal best i wont manipulate others into doing the same il just but some logical arguments untill someone chages my belif
<9> anaconda goggles and the other day I had scissors and wow my phone is groovy man.
<3> icmps its kinda funny you said you were working that comp***, you should know inside where you stand on those questions
<3> disco is that a rebuttle?
<9> more or less.
<3> well when you evolve come back and try again
<9> it makes about as much sense is whatever it is I'm supposed to rebut.
<3> k disco you answer my question then this ones just for you. do you love life?
<3> is conciousness life the trip a good thing?
<9> try asking me a question that isn't monumentally vague and maybe I'll think about answering it.
<9> "consciousness life the trip" ???
<9> What in the great wide-open hell does that even mean??
<3> is your feelings towards life positive of negative
<3> do you like existance?
<3> to be or not to be?
<9> Irrelevent.
<3> preatty simple if you ask me
<9> Existence exists whether I like it or not.
<3> not irrelevent
<3> you can kill youself
<9> The longer this conversation goes on, the more attractive that option is.
<10> heh
<11> lol
<3> too bad you couldnt answer a very simple question
<9> enormously vague questions may be simple to you.
<9> to the rest of us, they're enormously vague.
<3> you p*** judgement on me very easily yet you cant judge life thats irrelevent but judgeing me is???
<3> its not a simple question to me its all i do
<9> I don't p*** judgement on you because I honestly have no idea what the ever-****ing hell you're talking about.
<3> and by not answering my question you do not care so why dont you just shut your trap?
<9> Excellent idea. Sorry I tried to actually understand whatever the hell it is you're trying to convey.
<9> My mistake.
<9> kthxbye
<3> fine then can anyone in this place answer a simple question do you love life?
<11> yes
<3> how could we determine that you do?
<3> im sure MOST of us say that we love life but actions speak louder then words right?
<3> I could only guess how much pain and misery my gortesque unsustainable quality of life has brought
<12> what's poo/
<13> o/
<12> my shift key is sort of broken
<14> "The Anti Christ is brought to you by Lexus"
<14> history channel is funny
<15> hehe
<16> efnet has no nickserv
<14> "Hitlers War Machine brought to you by Haliburton"
<3> to think that driving my car may exstingish life on this planet how many people could have been born millions, billions So when i ask that qustion do i love life i have no clue to the answer i just want somone else to produce one
<16> hybrid cars should be tax fee
<16> not just a incentive
<3> SUV should be illegal and im osorry if im cutailing your freedom my liberty is more important
<10> ummm
<16> too extreme
<3> what is liberty?
<3> freedom is overated we curtail freedom all the time and are justified in doing so
<3> i am free to do things withen the law
<3> im not allowed to mollest young children and and shoot junk
<3> freedom- do whatever you want to do
<3> Liberty- do whatever you want as long as you do not harm others
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