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<0> FreeTrade: When I watched I never sympathized with the murderers. I sympathized with the Mossad guy that eventually fled to New York...now I don't know how it effected otehrs though
<1> well dont talk about it till youve seen it FT
<2> I will see it, I will not see broke back mountain and its not anything to do with being affected by gays, its just that gay cowboys , I mean Heath Ledger a rising star in hollywood with the potential to be one of the greats, he isnt going to work in the next 5 years..
<1> get to it, instead of speculating
<2> People wont see a movie where they wont laugh about him... Or crack a joke.
<3> Best Oscar related headline------
<3> "The makers of the gay cowboy flick 'Brokeback Mountain' were too rough on sheep, an animal-rights group charged yesterday."--New York Post, March 2
<0> Yep
<2> He will be the brunt of jokes for a while.
<4> FT: I doubt that.
<2> I dont
<4> FT: "Junior" didn't kill Arnold's career.
<5> Rockfish: you just can't parody the left any more, because they'll always outdo you in reality.
<6> he won't make much money
<4> FT: and you dont get much gayer then a dude thats pregnant.
<2> And I encourage you to remember what I said here tonight and you said and we talk about it in about 2 years.
<6> he will get gay roles, or artsy roles, criticla acclaim, no $$
<2> Look Its not the fact he played a gay
<0> Brokeback mountain...well I haven't seen it...but the way it was presented was way out of line. America may not hate homo***uals but most people do not care to see a movie about it
<3> Antifed, well, it wasn't like acting has much to do with Arnold's career
<2> Gibson did and it was a GREAT movie and a GREAt drama and he has no problem finding work.
<4> Tom Hanks played a gay man, he's doing ok.
<6> Arnold was forced into politics ;P
<3> First Salma, now Penelope, grrrrrrrrrr
<4> Rockfish: I'm waiting for them to start lezzing out in front of the camera :)
<2> The problem is, they showed in on a cowboy movie, an in the USA comboys is part of teh culture no matter how hidden in us which well hahaha, I laugh everytime I think about it.
<6> See, the gaynes in the movie sounds gratuitous... that's why it is the butt of jokes (pun intended)
<1> ranch style homo***uality is unnaceptable is what your saying FT?
<2> There was John Wayne!.....................................................and Heath Ledger
<3> Didn't Salma lez it up in "Frida"?
<4> mmm Cruiz / Salma lesbian kiss.
<4> er Cruz.
<7> td-: absolutely :P
<2> Part of it is probably the personality of ledger and then how the average american considers a cowboy genre film
<6> if they did a movie where it's more average gayness, it would make more money
<0> FreeTrade: It was unbelievably insulting to older Americans. My dad is one. I grew up idealizing cowboy movies and I'm clearly kind of liberal and the whole thought of the movie offended me at face
<7> td-: "hide the salami" is barred from ranches :P
<2> Like I told my son it was just the wrong Genre.
<2> His agent is an idiot
<4> FT: if Benn Affleck can still make movies, then being a living Gay Joke does NOT hurt your career in film.
<2> this oscar will not make it worth it
<4> .... !
<6> cause Affleck didn't play a cowboy
<2> Yeah but again, You can be gay and its nothing....
<4> US: cowboys are a sacred cow now?
<0> I'm putting money on Brokeback Mountain not winning Best Picture
<2> But yeah US Male hit it
<6> hos movies aren't gratuitous gayness., just part of the character
<6> antifed: not at all, just teh audience doesn't buy it as "non gratuitous"
<3> I bet this helps Ledger's career, and Gyllenhall's, Hollywood will love them, they'll get great parts for this, the public won't care about their last movie if their next one is good
<2> Gay dramas can be appealing.. But the wild wild west hahahahaha
<0> I think Munich takes BP at least Best Director
<8> freetrade. munich doesnt make terrorists look moral, in one scene it does make them look human, which is something completely different; and the theme is more that the israeli actions were meaningless and futile, more than anything
<9> <<returned -- had late dessert...
<2> My son and I watched the Patriot a week or two ago...
<4> we need to make a movie about a gay WWII platoon in the Pacific...
<2> hjaha
<4> call it..
<4> "Sweatback Island"
<7> antifed is an op in #bearcave
<6> antifed: if you can't get that... the audience KNOWS that these characters were "made ga" just to make some social statement. Audiences don't like that
<4> hahaha
<2> We broke out in Spontaneous laughter every time we saw keith ledger
<2> haha
<8> freetrade. they could have made a gay romance movie with any character type from the Village people , and it would have worked. they just picked Cowboy
<0> hahahaha
<8> next there will be a gay construction worker movie
<0> good point
<6> just make a regular guy gay, it's fine. Even make him a gay hero
<6> np there
<0> I laugh everytime I see Jake on tv
<2> Redfish, I swear to god I believe what you said.
<10> I liked Brokeback
<3> What is Jakie? About 5'#"?
<10> was really sad though
<6> but audiences don't like to be manipulated so transparantly
<7> it's Heath Ledger
<4> ooo.. wait.. a movie about Gay Unionized Labor in the early 1900s.
<3> 5'3", that is?
<0> hahaha
<2> Gay Serial Killer, Gay Hero, Gay Cop... Hmm ok.. But Cowboy ?
<2> Hahahahahaha
<0> Gay President?
<2> hahaha
<0> hahaha
<5> Well I can't wait until the Academy shares its expansive idea of propriety by featuring a musical act using "bitches" and "hos"
<4> Publius: dude, President Harvey Firestein.
<8> gay astronaut
<0> HAHAHAHA
<0> please
<11> just got done watching a RR presidental era cl***ic :P
<5> antifed: oh bloody hell.
<2> Sure.. Ahh Mr Baker, will you order a strike on Iran and bring me my pink Tie with the white elephants please
<7> gay astronaut... going where no man has gone before
<6> It's just laughabl because it's a Village People stereotype
<11> Kr***niy razzvet....Red Dawn
<0> Did anyone see Robert Redford BASH Brokeback Mountain
<4> Disco: too much?
<2> hahaha
<8> publius no what were his comments
<2> Publius, bash it ?
<5> ****, he'd bring world peace just by admonishing the world with that cum-gurgling voice, "You all stop that fighting right now! It's very disturbing!"
<2> It did get some bad press in the gay community too, they are mixed on it.
<12> Robert Redfoed prob wanted one of the main parts
<3> Red Dawn-----"This is against the Geneva Convention" "Never heard of it"
<13> LOS ANGELES - Jermaine Jackson feared his kid brother Michael might be guilty of child molestation, but backed him at trial because he thought the pop star would commit suicide in prison, according to a bombshell book proposal obtained by the Daily News.
<4> I got it.. "Gay WWII Kamikaze pilots."
<2> This film I think tried to have it all
<12> Rockfish LP~~~~~
<2> And it cant have it all
<0> let me go find the yahoo news article....he was Bashing either the mountain itself or the way hollywood presented it
<12> it was amusing watching KGB and Cubans getting whacked
<5> The world would drop their weapons just long enough to simultaneously proclaim, "what the fizzuck?" in unison.
<6> You might as well have a big movie about Denzel starting a restaurant which sells fried chicken and watermelon -- the stereotype is too transparaent
<2> It was gay, And it was anti gay, and it was cowboy, wrapped up into one movie.
<4> "They laughed, they loved, they crashed planes into boats."
<13> Jermaine has written a tell all book
<12> at leasr it now has a realistic rating...
<10> What a nice brother lol
<12> 1.5 stars
<0> oh god
<0> he sold old his brother
<0> hahaha
<2> Cry whats that and where ?
<0> out*
<12> CB...thats why you have sibs
<10> Star Wars is a fun series of movies
<13> Eye's on anchor succession
<8> i wonder if the first gay person into space will get a history book mention, like the first woman into space
<13> CBS' Schieffer looks to retire
<12> Freetrade it is a movie released in the middle of RRs presidency
<12> 1984
<9> CRY -- evening to you.
<0> Hey
<3> CBS will probably hire Cindy Sheehan to succeed Schieffer
<13> here is a good one
<13> \Hillary Clinton, a leading opponent of DP World's takeover of some US port operations, was this week forced to admit that she did not know her husband had advised Dubai leaders on how to handle the growing dispute.
<4> wow.. stewart is back :)
<12> had it not been for his comments regarding the USSR at the time..the movie would have been shown for the insipid piece that it was
<0> no more oscars now...FOX has the IRAN and the Bomb Special on now
<13> she must never talk to Bill
<2> Damn what do you all think about developments south of here ? I am concerned.. Socialism and anti americanism which has nothing to do with bush it has to do with their perception of our foreign policy for decades. The Resurgence of this ?
<2> What do people think ?
<5> CometBabe: why so soon? He's only 472 years old.
<12> but because of the political climate..it did well in theatres
<1> cometbabe: i think she knew all along
<2> Cuba, Veneuzuela, Bolivia and now Nicaraqua ?
<2> Its scary
<0> CometBabge: are you kidding me?
<2> I think it is
<2> Not Cuba
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