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<0> I like the late t's because they have a remote controlled 50 cal or 51 or whatever
<0> so you don't have to stick your head out to shoot it
<0> I like that feature I mean
<1> lots of tanks have that
<0> I just mention it because the m1 doesn't
<2> Abusive Domain or User
<3> well, the best chances for the merkava/leclerc/t90/type98 is that the US probably will retire A-10s after they return from iraq
<1> USA isn't going to be fighting Israel, France, Russia anytime soon
<1> So thats pretty moot
<1> and they do have a fair amount of AA weaponry
<1> A-10 is great with total air superiority
<1> I wouldn't want to be flying one in an area without it, or an area with AA infantry
<4> Wal-Mart Stores is shutting down the automated system that creates movie recommendations on its shopping website after the system randomly linked a Planet of the Apes DVD to films about African-Americans including Martin Luther King Jr., the company said Thursday.
<3> AHAHAHAHAHHAA
<5> hah
<5> i guess their system doesn't get the discovery channel either



<6> oh dear
<4> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-01-05-wal-mart-offensive_x.htm
<4> though y'all might like that
<7> Good morning from B.C.
<8> Hm... IBM is moving away from defined-benefit pension
<8> ****s.
<4> Lupine: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/big_gun3.jpg
<4> Lupine: how stereotypical is that? a hispanic guy in a ski mask holding a gun :-P
<3> um.. how do you tell he's hispanic?
<4> b/c it's me :-P
<2> children shall not play here!
<4> finally got my grandpa's gun
<9> thank god
<3> heh
<4> he p***ed away a year ago and it was what i wanted
<10> http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-privacy05.html
<3> loco: this is what I just got for my own xmas present http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/large-344100.jpg
<11> Well
<4> my uncle (his brother) tried to take it, there was a big broohaha about it
<10> L0c0 what kind is it?
<4> family ****s
<11> Now I'm stuck in Santa Barbra.
<1> Pickle, Conservatives are ahead of the Liberals nationally
<1> in polls now
<4> nice
<4> nothing spectacular about my grandpa's gun. 8shot .22 pistol
<3> pilgrim: you know, its not nice to link URL's which wish to secretely install spyware on your computer :P
<4> but its the sentimental value
<3> pickle: yep
<4> pistol = revolver
<8> Herzen: By 2%, yeah
<8> But that also happens to be the margin of error.
<1> Its only 2%, but they've gone from being behind by 8%, by being ahead by 2%
<3> pilgrim: right, but remember, NSA spying on phonecalls to al Queda operatives is "bad"
<1> So...
<1> 2% yeah, but its still significant gains
<1> especially in Quebec
<10> L0c0 what brnad, what model?
<10> brand
<10> Pickle and if like my ex, your broker suggest you put your 401k in a prooven market leader like......WorldCom.....you are also screwed
<4> dunno
<8> Herzen: It all depends on how concentrated that support is. Support in Quebec means nothing--they aren't going to win seats there, so if that's where a lot of this new support is coming from it won't translate to gains in the House of Commons.
<4> lemme check it out
<1> Pickle, Actually with current support we'll wina bout 3 seats
<1> Which would be awesome.
<10> L0c0 reason I ask: lets say it was a Colt
<8> Quebec is going to the Bloc.
<12> does anyone know anything about guns
<3> celf: guns are bad! in fact, if you leave it unloaded sitting on a table.. it'll get up, walk down the street, and kill innocent women and children!
<10> if you write the factory and send them...I think it is 30 bucks, they check their records and give you a letter that states when it was made, sold and where
<8> pilgrim: Yeah, that's why I don't like defined-contribution plans. I'll set up my own such, thanks. Give me my defined-benefit plan in the meantime, company.
<10> my plan is stuck -I have no choice
<10> but I do on my onw PRIVATE investments
<10> so of course I invest in Columbian pharmacutical exports and gun running ;)
<4> Pilgrim: Iver Johnson Model 55
<10> Celfone yes. guns are bad
<4> i found an advert for it. http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/gg/ggardenour/A5274.jpg
<4> probably as old too h aha
<8> Herzen: You can't really do that math in a first-past-the-post system. If we had proportional representation I'd be a lot happier about those numbers.



<1> Eh
<1> A choice between Triple-E senate, and proprotional representation, i'll take TE Senate
<4> 8 shot, 6" barrel
<8> Herzen: As it is, we need a province-by-province breakdown of support to figure out what gains the Conservatives will make.
<1> a choice between proportional representation and our system now, i'll take a hybrid proportional representation system
<1> Pickle, actually we'd need a riding-by-riding breakdown
<1> which is expensive and painstaking
<8> Herzen: Well, the point is that it's hard to calculate gains based on national support numbers.
<1> Yeah
<10> L0c0 Longish post:
<1> but its pleasing none the less
<10> Iver Johnson started out in 1871 as Johnson Bye & Co., in 1883 the name of the company was changed to Iver Johnson & Co. and in 1891 the name was changed again to Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works. Iver Johnson produced firearms under various names and owners form 1871 until 1993. In 1993 when operations ceased, Iver Johnson was owned by American Military Arms Corp. (AMAC
<8> In fact it's impossible with first-past-the-post.
<8> Herzen: I am convinced that Ontario will never permit a Triple-E senate--it's a pipe dream by westerners who think they can strongarm central Canada into accepting it.
<1> I wouldn't mind a HYBRID proportional representation system
<1> keep the ridings and add say 150 more for national vote
<8> The only way we'll get a Triple-E senate is if a viable western separatist movement gives Ottawa the choice of that or losing the western provinces completely.
<8> And that's not on the immediate horizon, for sure.
<12> i think we need electronic referendum
<1> Stephen Harper was just talking about letting provinces elect senators and then appointing them
<12> of every bill in the house
<1> which is kind of non-codified
<1> and it will stop when Conservatives get out of power
<12> so people who are bothered will get up and vote on every bill
<8> Herzen: Yeah, but that doesn't deal with the other two "E's": Equal and Effective.
<12> that way we only need to elect people who can pull off the bills that we want
<12> as in a working senate
<4> Pilgrim: appears to have been manufactured between 1946-1954
<1> Pickle, Yeah
<1> Senate reform is certainly needed though
<1> Since the senate as it stands is just a waste of money
<8> Ontario will not accept having the same number of Senate seats as Alberta, no way.
<8> Not if the Senate had actual power (Effective), anyway.
<0> power to the canadians
<1> the senate has power
<1> but it rarely uses it
<0> direct democracy
<1> its most effetive power is the power to fillibuster
<1> they can just continually send bills back to the House of Commons if they want
<13> RENO, Nev. - Conservationists sued the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Thursday seeking protection for a rare butterfly they say is threatened by off-road vehicles at one of the largest sand dunes in the West.
<13> i always knew Lupine was in to Butterflies
<8> Herzen: So rarely they're effectively a rubber stamp for the House right now. Which is as it should be for a Senate that consists of appointees.
<8> Herzen: But an "Effective" senate means one that wields the kind of power that the US Senate wields.
<1> That wouldn't be too bad
<1> I wouldn't mind senate approval for Supreme Court judges certainly
<1> even Parliamentary approval
<8> It would be great, in fact. But like I said, Ontario won't go for having as much political power as Alberta.
<8> Especially since put together, the prairies would be a dominant bloc, as would the Maritimes, with central Canada outnumbered.
<12> CLINTON, Iowa A Clinton-based Internet service provider who successfully sued Internet spammers in the past now has been awarded an $11.2 billion judgment against a Florida man for sending millions of unsolicited e-mails advertising mortgage and debt consolidation services.
<12> that would be ridiculous for alberta to have the same number of seats as ontario
<12> alberta is like 1/3 the population
<12> and 1/4 the economy
<0> whoa spammers
<0> are losing for ounce
<1> Celfone, The original intent of the senate was to represent provincial and regional interests in Ottawa
<8> Celfone: Wyoming has as many Senators as California. That's the point of having a senate: it balances the population-based rule of the House, which protects the rights of minorities.
<1> Right now it doesn't do that, and as long as the senate is unequal, it won't do that
<12> sintient, i'm pretty sure an $11.2 billion lawsuit wont stick
<12> sintient, that's bigger than the tobacco lawsuits
<0> whatis the damage use of bandwidth?
<1> Celfone, Right now there is population-based ridings in provinces, we don't need population-based senators too
<12> definitely not that
<1> Ontario has way more ridings then out here in Manitoba
<12> herzen, manitoba has like 5 people in it
<1> We can have the same amount of senators without having it unbalanced
<12> how do you figure lol i'm pretty sure the senate is just as important to have equal say in as the house
<1> Celfone, Ontario has more ridings then us, Ontario has more people then us, Ontario's population is repreesnted in the House of Commons
<1> They do not need the same representation in the Senate
<4> Pilgrim: http://www2.arkansas.net/~sws1/ij22_57t.jpg
<14> abolish canadian senate :|
<1> Actually, as of now the senate isn't important at all
<12> why not lol that's like saying "well the republicans already own the house so why can't we just give the supreme court to the dems"
<12> even worse than that in fact
<12> that's like creating an entire branch of government run by the south


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