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<0> don't confuse the issue with facts, FreeTrade... this IS Bush we're talking about... he must be portrayed as evil at all cost
<1> What the Hell is the point of testifying while not under oath?
<2> hes pretty predictable on parliamentary actions.
<3> he was too far gone with Alzheimer's to prosecute
<2> Timur, no he wasnt
<4> deinmere
<2> Her was tested by medical doctors and was quite lucid in his second term
<2> there was a change in Reagan after the attempted ***asination and his recovery he became more religious, prior to that he really wasnt that religious he was not a church goer.;
<5> "The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base." -- Truman
<3> oh, then they should've gone after him
<2> Reagan had gay friends, he had all kinds of friends political and in hollywood.
<3> but instead Ollie North got to testify
<3> and Poindexter and McFarland
<2> Ollie North really pissed me off for years.
<3> why
<2> But today Ollie I have forgiven him and He does one of the best war documentary programs that exist.
<3> was it the letterman-like gap twixt his teeth?
<3> I'm sure he's relieved that you've forgiven him
<2> This guy has documented so many battles in so many wars with survivors of the battle and the enemy survivors.
<2> He interviews both
<2> and he lets them tell the story in between his narration.
<3> ok, but why *were* you pissed at him before
<3> or just like, for no reason
<2> Timur, dont be a smart ***
<3> I'm just asking a q
<2> I am not asking for his relief I dont pretend to think he knows me or gives a damn, I didnt like what he did to reagan when he shirked responsibility.
<3> I mean, I ***ume there was a reason or set of reasons
<3> I hated him myself for Iran-Contra
<2> But all that **** seems to have healed by now.
<3> if death is healing. .I guess..
<2> I supported the Contras.
<3> that's nice
<2> And when the people had free elections they voted those nepotistic communist dictators out\
<3> I'm sure the cocaine dealers loved that too, since Adolfo Calero was so involved in that
<3> but hey, I'm sure that's all healed too
<2> And in El Salvador in a free election they overwhelmingly support the rightwign government over the murderous leftist rebels.
<3> they're both pretty murderous; but El Salvador is a basket case
<2> Both sides were ruthless but a professor friend of mine went to El Salvador to teach..
<3> largely because of drug gang activity
<2> He was so leftwing..
<3> in the US
<5> In 1950, Truman authorized the use of atomic weapons in the Korean War, but the order was made moot when General Douglas McArthur was fired days later.
<2> He came back fully in support of the rightwing government.
<5> i never knew that
<3> what's that Salvadoran gang called again
<3> the A7s or something
<2> he says you have to understand El Salvador to understand why the rightwing government in this case is right.
<3> M"MS-13"
<2> He said basically before the rightwing govt, murder and anachy ruled.
<2> Amarchy
<3> anarchy, right.. but murder was on..both sides, as you said.
<6> anarchy is good :)
<3> in fact,the gov. was probably a bit guiltier
<2> That when the rightwingers came to power they put their foot down hard on the old system of justice which as like the mccoys and the other fueding families.
<2> He used as an example this I will quote him
<3> eh.. in some ways
<2> Before the government if your family member ran over the other gys family member with a car on accident, justice was they killed one of your sons...
<3> As the staff of the Truth Commission dug through mountains of documents, interviews, court records, and secondary reports in search of information on human rights cases, an exhumation of another kind was taking place in El Salvador. In mid-October, 1992, an Argentine forensic team began excavating one of the most notorious killing fields of the war. The tiny hamlet of El Mozote in the Department of Morazan had become known to the rest of the worl
<3> anyway, food.. bbl
<2> After the government was established they established a rule of law which was much less barbaric than what existed before.
<2> And that the thing a lot of people forget..
<2> Countries like Israel were once Barbaric..
<2> And then...
<2> hehe
<3> Saudi Arabia still is
<3> hehe
<2> Seeing if timur is lurking
<2> ;)
<2> hahaha
<7> he never gives up he's always there
<3> RAWR
<7> fighting for freedom over land and air
<3> food. bbl
<2> I waas kidding anyway timur I was teasing yo on [13:14] <5> FreeTrade as far as I know, yes. copy those 3 files from 6 to 7
<2> [13:14] <5> no more problems
<2> [13:14] <2> Overwrite them with the 6.0 files of the same name ?
<2> [13:14] <5> yes
<2> [13:15] <2> ok cool
<2> on your way out
<2> ****
<2> Teaing you on your way out
<2> teasing
<2> damit
<5> o_O
<2> Anyway. now back to seriousness.
<8> Anyone know what pelicano went to jail for?
<2> So to understand Latin America you have to understand the history of latin america.
<2> What by our standards is brutal by their standards may be a vast improvement.
<2> same is true in many arab countries today as Timur said on the way out.
<2> The shah for example who the international left hated.
<2> And they got rid of him and now we have the current iranian regime ran by fanatical clerics and thier hand picked public figure heads.
<2> Makes you wish for the Shah again
<2> I knwo this, I grew up with this was going on
<2> I remember the seething hatre by the left
<2> I rememebr the coup
<2> (In this case Chile) I am confusing my various revolutions ;)
<5> I know a lady who fled Iran when the shah was booted. It's been how many years? She still fears for her life, on a daily basis
<2> But there was a lot of revolutions coups etc during the 60s and 70s
<2> mostly calmed down in the 80s when Reagan took office and said no moe buisness as usual with the soviets
<2> No Communist client states in our hemisphere
<2> and Reagan meant it.
<2> ONly CUba would be allowed
<2> we would fight anyone else which is why we fought nicaraugua
<2> Anwyay
<2> 60s and 70s was crazy whack
<2> Yep, I would love the SHah of Iran to be resurrected today.
<2> Well bbiab
<9> Shah and descendants wore out welcome..
<9> Pahlavi was pretty harsh
<2> Back, Cry you prefer the ****ing mullahs who rule the country now ? The Ayahtolla Khomeini ?
<2> I think betweeen Jordans king and the US government we could of convinced the shah to reform in the areas he needed to reform
<2> but he sure liberated women
<9> FT.....nope...
<2> WOmen in Iran were allowed to work and wear western dress
<9> but Khomeini returened to power BECAUSE of Pahlavis excesses
<2> btw the dress code of countries is not islam
<2> its the culture of the country
<9> one extreme no better than other
<9> the internal battle is still on in Iran though...
<9> on one side are the Imams and the old guard ( including their terrorist president)
<9> the other consists oft the yunger crowd who as as much inclinded to consider Imam speak to be bs
<2> Yeah well the SHah and all his supporters left the country in the 80s
<9> FT...lol
<2> MAny moved to LA where there is a large community of Persians.
<2> serious
<9> ran like hell is better word
<9> I know you were
<2> I knew this BEAUTIFUl Iranian or persian girl who was entirely western who was so beautiful. Oh I said that already ;)
<2> Anyway, I didnt day her though I was single at the time and Would of liked to.
<9> I remember the fallout from that...
<2> Anyway I do have to run again for a bit.
<2> Ill be in and out most the say
<2> day
<9> Iranian emigres with engineering degrees who could not get work...
<10> i know a pakistani girl that is just sooooooo fine...
<10> and lets not even get started talking about romanian women.....
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