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Comments:
<0> because it's selective. Their religious leaders tell them what to get angry about each day
<1> KoBushi: uh... you're SUPPOSED to wipe with your left hand
<2> Oliphant is one of the best US Op-Ed cartoonists out there
<3> panini yeah, but you get the point
<3> it's ridiculous...
<2> uses right...
<2> using left hand would be awkward
<3> especially when only a few hundered years ago images of te prophet were common place.
<4> and messy
<5> ahaahaahah.. http://www.drawmohammed.com/albums/userpics/SA28122004.gif
<1> "wipe with your left, shake hands with your right"
<2> Lupine...check out the kinks I posted
<2> links
<5> I intentionally wipe with my right hand when I am to meet with arabs
<5> but I cheat, unlike them.. I used toilet paper.. not my bare hand!
<3> lol, that's an offensive URL Lup|ne "drawmohammed.com" rofl
<5> Cry: oh yea, I see Oliphant in the local paper all the time :-)
<1> muslims are required to kill anyone who draws a pic of mohammed
<2> Lup|ne how many riots ensued from those cartoons....
<2> would you not say they are far more cutting in humor?
<4> what if I draw a pic of mohammed allawi, the local 7-11 clerk?
<5> oh man, now THIS is a good one http://www.drawmohammed.com/displayimage-random-0--159.html
<2> or draw a pic of one of the 9/11 fliers....after collissions
<1> i like this one. good photoshop: http://www.drawmohammed.com/albums/userpics/10007/normal_islam.jpg
<5> Cry: oh absolutely.. dozens of people are beheaded each week in florida over Oliphants cartoons
<4> i found the pedophilial cartoon more funny
<2> the one I posted??
<2> my point is though..no riots erupted over it...
<4> the one with 100's of priests
<2> Lupine that cartoon is a bit cr***...lol
<5> Cry: yea, the brady campaign says the blood flows in teh street when ever Oliphant publishes..
<2> Benson is on Par with Oliphant
<5> no.. THIS is a bit cr*** :-) http://www.drawmohammed.com/displayimage-lastcom-0-3.html
<2> Benson drew the cartoon of Ev Mecham floating down from sky with Book of Moron
<3> rofl A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
<2> I saved that one Lupine...I know where it will be sent...
<5> BEST CARTOON RESPONSE EVAR!!!! http://www.drawmohammed.com/displayimage-toprated-0-5.html
<3> If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough.
<3> Yankee27 by "funny" we know you really mean "arousing"
<2> good one Lupine...
<2> well..bbiab..have to run some Ebay Auctions :)
<4> No, I am not twobar.
<1> yeah all these cartoons are good
<6> Damn Muslims making trouble
<6> in Egypt they're rioting over that boat
<7> can't blame em, they stormed their offices too
<7> what a loss of innocent lives.
<3> clearly, the middle east finds violence to be an oppropriate first course of action for anything that bothers them.
<5> kobushi: that, or regular stampeeds during their annual pilgrimages
<6> KoBushi, if anything is hurting Muslims in world opinion, its this shti going on
<3> Herzen yeah, it's themselves hehe
<6> KoBushi, 9/11 really drew the worlds view, but people thought it was just a minority
<6> Right now, they're digging themselves a deeper hole
<3> it really doesn't paint a picture of islam as being majority of peaceful worshipers
<4> now what?
<7> what do the families of the egyptian victims have to do with painting a picture of islam ?
<5> Herzen: right, which is why I view this as being a GOOD thing, shining light upon them
<8> smart people thought (and know) that it's just a minority
<8> if it was a majority of 1.6 billion people who want america gone, america would be gone.
<6> I agree that its just a minority
<6> but its making Westerners angry
<6> and once you get both sides Angry
<3> suna how do you figure that? even with 1.6 bil people, they don't have any military might
<3> suna and are consumed by in-fighting between thier nations to boot
<6> Its uh, bad
<8> KoBushi: well, how many people were involved in 9/11?
<3> So, even if it were a majority which wished the US/etc gone... it still couldn't achieve it.
<8> people don't realize how big of a number 1.6 billion is;/
<8> I can't say I know exactly what would happen
<9> its 100million more than 1.5 billin :-)
<4> will this lead to a major war? Or just more frustration?
<7> im sure it would involve some sort of pan-islamic alliance, heh
<8> but if 1.6 people all had the goal to kill all americans now (and had NO other priority)
<8> well then
<3> suna 1.6 billion divided unorganized untalented, starving people doesn't make for much of an offensive force
<8> **** would go down
<8> ;p
<8> Kobushi: that's a good point....one that should be used in the reverse argument
<3> what "reverse" argument would that be?
<8> a few % of this country acts as though they believe all muslims are millitant and potential terrorists, and should be treated just like those guilty of the 9/11 attacks. They ***ume that all muslims actually have some skill
<8> but the average muslim is about as militarily useless as the average 300 pound american
<10> muslims are peaceful people
<10> we need to embrace and love them
<4> and?
<11> yes, let's embrace them with agent orange.
<3> suna sure, I don't think it's a "Vast majority" or muslims who are potentialy violent... however after this past week I definately think it is a larger % than I did before
<10> agent orange eh..
<8> the only difference in my head between a muslim extremist and a christian extremist is that a muslim extremist thinks it's his divine duty to kill people
<10> to defoliate them?
<8> but they're both equally brainwashed;p
<1> nope, there's a big difference
<3> suna I'm okay with people being brainwashed zombies when they don't want to kill everyone who isn't :)
<4> you, now, cannot even compare the two.
<1> because muslim "extremists" are the mainstream
<8> kobushi: well, ya know that's the problem with big numbers....people don't have a physical grasp for what they mean
<8> if you saw a million muslims causing hell it'd be only natural to form significant opinions about muslim people
<8> but one million is less than once percent of 1.6 billion!
<1> so calling them extremists is pretty silly... they're not
<8> still not even remotely close to the burden of majority
<10> we havent even seen a million causing hell
<3> suna sure, however you also have to remember that those who make a public showing of any group are only a small % of the actual group that supports them/agrees with them
<1> exactly
<7> they also shot and killed a roman catholic priest in turkey
<10> like all those bush protestors
<1> KoBushi made the point missed by all liberals
<8> it's a good point
<10> that you people love
<8> ;p
<3> som just counting the rioters and figuring that as a % of 1.6billion doesn't give us anything accurate
<3> so*
<7> the killer supposedly shouted "allah akbar" before firing......
<7> cl***ic
<1> the real figure is about 60%
<1> not 1%
<8> panini: lol
<8> show me data man
<10> LOL
<8> how the hell do you think you could ever measure that?
<7> panini has the facts, lmao
<8> nobody would ever claim to be able to do so!
<1> the data is there... rigorous studies have been done
<1> wrong
<10> bull****!
<3> I don't know what the actual data is; but just cunting active rioters doesn't give a proper # for sure
<8> liberals understand the point panini, it's just not significant because it can't be measured!
<1> I just told you the rigorous studies have been done
<8> in your opinion panini they are guilty until proven innocent
<7> and thats all you need to know
<10> cite them
<7> (!)
<8> you're b*** ackwards on this one
<7> what a joke
<8> and if conservatives all share your opinion
<8> then they'rea ll b*** ackwards aswell
<8> you have no data to support that absurd claim
<3> But, my *hunch* is that those willing to behavor violently towards western society/non-islamic society is around 25% or more
<1> the definitive study was done by the PEW Research organization
<8> and nobody ever will
<1> that's where the 60% number comes from
<8> what, did they ask every muslim what do you think and then twist their responses?
<1> read the study
<8> 'yah I don't like american' != 'I SUPPORT BIN LADEN KILLING AMERICANS!'
<8> i don't like turkey, i dont' want turks dead.
<12> youre either with us or with the terrorists
<10> yes!
<1> the facts are there... it's your choice whether or not to ignore them
<8> such pathetic logic
<1> KoBushi: at least in the islamic countries covered in the study, the number was 50-60%
<8> there are so many logical fallacies in politics it's painful
<8> and i'm not trying to dog on the war or administration by saying that
<8> all parties, all politicans
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