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<0> Yes the Saudis in general, (IN general) are the most backwards of the formentioned.
<1> the saudis **** on their own people
<2> FT: what have the Saudis done that, in your opinion, is bad, and are still doing?
<3> FreeTrade - Sounds like squirming to me
<4> lUpine: nope ... all arabs ... Iranians are not arabs
<1> they kill schoolgirls
<5> wow
<6> OH ****.. that was a ****ing penality that wasn't called
<2> Slavery can be one
<0> But they have been a steady ally when we needed them for national security reasons.
<2> funding HAMAS could be one
<6> OcDoc: afghani's are not arabs?
<7> sweet!
<6> news to me
<8> http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=LMTtywRHLhztvEehhhfnwEtXg8D1L24DDYA=?CategoryName=pr_p_sonyfinancing_dcc&ProductSKU=DSCH1&INT=sstyle-dcc_DIDigitalCameras-catpfeature-DSCH1
<8> ohh jesus
<9> persian
<8> sorry all
<2> exporting extremist madrasas and Wahabbist ideology is one
<10> We need a piss on Islam campaign to show the Muslims the terrorists have made all of them look like ***holes, and of course it's their responsibility to jail the criminals and bring Islam back to being peaceful.
<0> Timur, You want me to get into the Israeli Occupation and the individual (Not group) Murders of palestinians who were doing nothing wrong ?
<4> Lupine: no, but none of them are suicide bombers either
<6> Rusty: I'm on 4 beers, entire 5th of Hennesy Xo, 4 scotches, and now about half a bottle of Warres Porto :-)
<0> These are usually rogue IDF groups.
<1> the saudies are smart, they make dumb people in the west thing they are on our side while they support world terrorism
<0> Not sanctioned by the govt
<2> how about how they don't invest in their own people but have these huge sick parties in places like Costa D'Oro in Spain to the tune of millions of dollars
<8> hehehe, i aint drinkin=)
<1> but they are still evil
<2> huyuge: see what influence billions of dollars can have
<4> Free: not doing anything wrong?!
<11> Haha
<2> oh look, shiny object
<6> rusty: i meant butter milk!!! you'ld join me in a drink of butter milk, woulnd' tyou
<3> FT gads
<2> FT: actually, the Saudi government runs and regulates the schools and their curriculum
<1> man
<8> eee gads no
<2> and is involved in exporting wahabbism
<8> hahahah
<6> TOUCHDOWN seatle!!
<7> :))
<2> so, that's actually not true.
<0> But timur you get upset because not like some other people here in america I dont put kiss Israels *** and I am not afraid of discussing the positive relations we have with them nor m I afraid to discuss the negative problems we have had with Israel.
<6> they gotta go for 2
<1> i just cant see how u can support a country that forces school girls back in to a burning school... that is just evil
<0> Most the world sees it that way too, I think they are too hard on Israel but they arent coming from a vaccum
<6> Freetrade: remember, being against the palestinians are just as "anti semetic" as being against the jews
<4> huyuge: you've said that like fourteen times ... give it a rest
<6> whaaa??? seatle goes for the field goal? that makes no sense
<2> no, I am not upset, but I am amused that you defend the Saudis and their horrible terrorist-supporting corrupt slavery-dealing, head-chopping-off, etc reime
<1> ocdoc he ignored it 13 of those times
<2> and I am amused that rather than acknowledge those facts, you suddenly resort, as always, to bringing up Israel, which is totally besides the point.
<6> timur: what would you have? him support 6 million meekly going to their death.. yet drag rabbi's out of their synagogue?
<4> juyuge: do you think that will change if you keep repeating it?
<0> Lupine, I am far from anti semitic and you know me and Know I am not anti semitic, but you also know that I look at situations objectively, The civil war if you will between the jews and arabs of palestine which has gone on for 85 years is a complex matter which people tend to simplify by just taking sides.
<1> ocdoc i think it is worth repeating
<0> I refuse to take sides I judge each issue as it is.
<4> Lupine: they didn't go meekly
<6> FT: right. and like you, I do not believe that the only "wrong" is by the palestinians.. and that the isreali's are beyond reprorach
<2> Lup: I'll wait til you sober up, because 1. we've had that convo and 2. you don't have anything to contribute on it and 3. I'm quite clear on your stance regarding it.
<6> OcDoc: 99.9% of them did
<11> Yeah, it's real "complex."
<0> Obviously I feell more allied with Israel ideologically
<0> even though I am not as Militant as they are
<1> who cares about israel
<6> timur: well then, why do you think my position would change once I "sober up"?
<2> militancy for them pretty much equals 'survival'
<0> Yeah it is complex unless you are a simple minded idiot
<0> which many are.
<2> no thanks to, among others, Saudi Arabia.
<1> wtf does israel have to do with the saudis
<4> Lupine: see how meek you are if they come knock on your door in the middle of the night with overwhelming force and guns
<2> huyuge: not much except for Saudi support for Palestinian terrorism.
<1> does israel make sa abuse its own people in most evil ways
<6> frankly, Trans-jordan has killed off more palestinians than Isreal ever did
<2> Lup: right
<0> Why do so many people have their tongue so far up Israels *** they can not critisize it when its wrong ?
<4> LUpine: but look at the Warsaw ghetto and you'll get a taste for what they really were like when they knew what was coming
<0> Most the time I am supporting Israel
<6> OcDoc: at least I would have the choice to fight, as I have firearms.. most of the jews in nazi germany choose not to have guns
<0> But Israel is no saint
<1> does israel make sa publish books talking about slaughtering the jews under each rock
<2> FT: why is it that everytime Saudi comes up, you feel compelled to switch to Israel?
<0> They will do anything to achieve their objectives.
<2> yes, the Saudis will
<6> OcDoc: right, less than .1% of those in the warsaw ghetto faught
<1> does israel make SA ban any religious expression but islam
<0> Americans in the way are just objects to be destroyed
<1> does israel make SA behead people for selling weed
<0> Sometimes as we have seen in the past.
<6> Ocdoc: far better to die with dignity, fighting for life.. than to meekly shuffle into the gas chambers
<4> LUpine: I'm not saying I agree, but it wouldn't have made any difference ... they lost and died either way
<0> Huge, I am not compating Israel to Saudi Arabia, I am sayign our relationship with each is different.
<2> huyuge: I dunno. Maybe if they gave you $70K you'd be friendlier to their regime
<0> culturally we are closer to the Israelis
<6> OcDoc: I disagree, it would have made all the difference if they died with hnor
<6> honor
<0> But economically we need Saudi Arabia much more.
<1> timur lol mr objectivity eh
<9> I agree with ocdoc...dead in the streets, dead in the chamber with a chance of escaping...I dont see the former as better
<6> Timur: 70k would be nice.. but not enough to sway me
<2> Doobs: he has a pretty freaky notion of honor
<0> That doesnt me we should excuse saudi Arabias foreign policy but we dont have to be involved in all their inner policies its not all our business.
<4> LUpine: I hope their dying that way at least taught the rest of us a lesson ... NEVER go meekly and never go without arms
<6> Timur: and how much did some jews pay.. to try to buy themselves out of auschwitz?
<0> I dont think its neccesarily wrong after the 2nd or 3rd time to cut the hand off a thief.
<0> I do not neccesarily think thats wrong...
<6> OcDoc: I agree. which is why I am virulent to the philosphy of Timur.. that no one should own any firearms
<2> but then again, he also thinks the US .gov is going to start a Holocaust and only those Americans with guns will have a chance to survive - or at least, 'die with honor'
<1> it is our business weather we ally with evil nations
<4> Doobs: by the time it got that far it was too late to fight back
<0> At least the law is the law there and you knwo what it is.
<2> FT: mighty white of you
<1> we should have learned from saddam that u dont ally with evil
<0> In Iraq you didnt have the rule of law..
<6> Timur: No. It is that the govn't knows it can not push over the citizens that is important
<2> yeah, their justice system is known to be just about infallible
<9> plus, every reasonable human being would think that at some point humanity would show itself in their captors..of course that didnt happen, but I think its natural to hold out that hope
<0> Timur, watch your racist comments.
<4> huyuge: sometimes you don't know
<2> it's not racist, it's a mockery.
<4> huyuge: when you find out, you have to change
<2> in any case, Saudi justice is known to be largely predicated on whether one is a member of or protected by the Royals
<2> if not, bye bye hand
<0> In Iraq you might commit a crime and get raped, in front of your kids , or i mean your wife would be raped in front of your children, and all kinds of evil **** which does not happen in saudi Arabia as a rule.
<0> they are a nation of laws, very strict laws.
<9> heh, "saudi justice" doesnt exist, I think
<6> timur: it is saddening that you, being jewish. have not learned the folly of blindly following your govn't.. and trusting that your govn't has the best of interest at its heart
<1> u can spin it all u want freetrade... u want us to support murdering medievel age kings
<2> very strict laws very unevenly applied
<2> oh, and with slavery
<0> Most countries in the world believe both the US and Israel are too excessive in our laws.
<2> let's not forget.
<9> theres just the saudi police system, I wont grant them any claim of justice
<1> i say no to supporting those evil people
<0> our death penalties etc
<4> Free: it happens all the time in Saudi
<1> lol
<0> I say our internal politics is not the worlds buisness.
<1> yeah we are just like saudi arabia
<0> OcDoc, not the rapes and all that.
<2> so ironic that FT defends civil rights so much here, yet defends slavery in Saudi Arabia
<4> huyuge: we don't support them
<2> but hey, $70K
<1> having a death penalty is the same as beating women on the street for not wearing their dishrag
<1> or chasing girls back into a burning school
<9> huyuge: are you joking?
<6> timur: freetrade defends slavery in saudi arabia??
<0> To compare Saudia Arabia to Iraq and try to find equivalency morally is to be unknowlegeable about The two.
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