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<0> `426Hemi, so you're not like anti-darwin religous nut?
<1> as if you have the truth
<2> I described what I felt was wrong with gore, you just used ad hom to attack bush.
<1> LAUGH
<3> hell no
<4> FMrkts: all right then, Bush and his Elk. Or moose ;=)
<3> i believe in reality
<1> no one in politics tells the truth
<2> He failed in business.. But he still had a LOT of business experience.
<5> DarthBurg: Would you really find that surprising? :) That people in high positions lie repeatedly? They're magically exempt from natural serving their own interests? ;)
<1> you are all unjust , filthy and wretched people
<6> Republicans are not always wrong, and Democrats are not always right.
<2> Gore is a capitalist ? If you mean making money of speeches against capitalism, Ok, he is a capitalist.
<3> jibber, although i do believe that God serves his purpose spiritually
<2> You never defined what was wrong with Bush in your view.
<6> Armon, I do not build houses made of lies.
<3> but thats between me and god
<0> `426Hemi, lets face it, on a national level, the RNC is partially anti-reality.. so are the DNC, but that's america.
<3> not me and everyone else=)
<1> speak to a buhdist , he will tell you the truth
<1> thats about it
<4> FreeMarket: But Gore is history, at least unless he very soon shifts course and tries to jump into the 08 race, which so far he is showing absolutely no indication of doing.
<5> DarthBurg: I wasn't accusing *you* of it, but the idea that politicians lie in their own interests shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, regardless of country, political parties or ideology.
<6> well, it is nice to see Donkeys all upset over lies again, they were out of fashion for a while
<2> And ++ perhaps you didnt understand my point about Jefferson, My point is that a president couldnt get away today with what Jefferson did, Or LBJ or Nixon or even JFK
<5> qp1: Now, now, first of all, we're not all American, and second, not all Americans are as dumb as the dumbest of them. There's 300 million of them, for God's sake.
<6> Armon true enough
<3> jibber i take more of a jeffersonian approach to religion, its between me and my god, religion shouldn't be a social/political issue
<5> Certainly there are mindboggingly stupid Europeans around, that's for damn sure.
<2> My point is that all political powerful people have dogs on their tails all the time, in other words they are scrutinized more than ever in history for making mistakes.
<5> I don't want to mention named, but the first letter is Silvio Berlusconi.
<5> s/named/names/
<7> scapegoat or saint..
<5> What a friggin' retard. Bush looks like Einstein compared to that moron.
<2> The Iraq Advenure I would remind people *The Majority of Americans Supported it, in fact a super majority*
<8> Armon, but at least Berlusconi's entertaining...
<6> Bush is either a moron, a political genius, or a puppet, depending on the time of day
<2> And it wasnt because of wmd only.. Anyone who buys that line is full of it.
<2> Saddam was an enemy of the USA and americans knew it.
<5> FreeMrkts: Yes, all nations support military actions when it's called self-defense. :) It works the same in all countries.
<4> FreeMrkts: And Kennedy couldn't get away today with porking Marilyn Monroe and a whole host of other beauties - compare and contrast especially Judith Exner, also a mob boss's sometimes bed-pal, with Paula Jones in terms of national security implications. Kennedy would have found presidential camelot turning into presidential cambodia
<5> FreeMrkts: But that doesn't make it right.
<3> hahahah this lady on Rush is funny, "I want to make it legal for anyone who wants to come to come to this country"
<9> bush is a squirrel monkey who likes to steal cell phones
<3> yeh thats it!
<2> We had been ****ing with him bombing him all through clintons term as president or terms
<5> redfish: Never heard that one before. ;)
<0> `426Hemi, do you think the RNC and DNC should take a longer term view on the scientists' concerns about the environment, global warming, over population, or would that leave them open to attack by potential rivals?
<4> FreeMarket: The American people supported it because they were told a pack of lies
<10> another icelander :) cool
<6> FreeMrkts what amazes me is that donkeys honestly feel Bush is the problem, not Saddam, or Kim Jung Ill, or that nutjob in Iran.
<6> amazing
<7> i wonder when this channel will be switched to spanish
<5> Cryolas: Yeah, except I'm an anti-nationalist one, so I'm not the least bit proud of having happened to be born here. :)
<10> Ahminejad should never have been given a visa...
<6> SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE
<6> oops sorry
<2> And as Disco noted we are doing more to stop pollution with existing laws and individual choices than many nations who are not even bound by kyoto should it have p***ed.
<10> we allow a terrorist access to the USA...so muce for sec
<0> tRrFX, I think that won't ever happen. Try #politicos
<6> Imperialism, catches me once in a while.
<5> Cryolas: In fact, I see no difference between nationalism and racism, except one is about the superiority of a race, the other is about the superiority of a nation... equally self-centered and naive.
<10> Armon..I give yer people credit though...
<3> jibber, i think that we have a responsibility to treat animals with respect, hunting and fishing is respectful, global warming is a natural occurence and has not been proven to be man-made
<6> yeah, heaven forbid you should actually like your country
<10> you understand FimbulWintr refs...the Norse do not lol
<0> nothing wrong with management of game animals
<5> Cryolas: For what? Voting out this retarded government? :)
<11> Armon: One nation often is superior to another nation.
<4> FreeMarket: Speaking of government and taxes, gotta go now to visit the tax man, or rather more indirectly, my tax accountant over some revised 1099s for stock exchanges. Later.
<6> most countries are **** holes, so hell, best not LIKE a country that people DIE to get to everyday
<10> no Armon...for perserving your heritage
<6> tsk tsk
<11> It's extreme moral relativism if one believes all nations are inherently equal
<2> Buy Kyoto will never p***, As a proponent of Kyoto, Mr Blair PM of England, Said "No nation can afford Kyoto and the costr tot he economy" That shouldnt be a quote, it should be a paraphrase
<10> The FlateyYarbok is a good read Armon :)
<0> `426Hemi, it's hard to prove that, I guess...
<12> FreeMrkts: it's really a simple matter of profit incentive in a efficient economy driving energy efficiency. There's not a lot of altruism involved in that fact.
<3> jibber, they just found a fossil of a LAND animal that was a "fish" that evolved to walk on land in the Arctic of Canada
<13> revenge, justice, or self defense? Our invasion of Iraq happen not long after 911.
<7> Who Are We? The Challenges to America's National Identity. Samuel P. Huntington. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2004, 448 pp. $27.00
<3> proving that the world at one point was ALOT ALOT more warmer
<12> FreeMrkts: and on top of it all thanks to our forests we're a net carbon sink anyway.
<5> Lupine: Oh, sure, it's probably the same with races... but anyone is the least competent to judge one's own country.
<2> but he said that no country with a healthy economy could afford it, the UK Couldnt in his judgement, and while Clinton was president our government rejected it.
<6> The US Senate voted down Kyoto 99-0
<11> armon: I disagree, one has to enjoy a certain freedom to appreciate it.
<6> Kerry was absent
<14> Armon, Iceland has a retarded government?
<6> Bush just p***ed on the word.
<5> Lupine: So, even if America *is* the greatest country in the world (according to whatever suitable standard and values), that doesn't mean that Americans are able to judge it.
<3> i think we should be responsible and do the right thing by the environment, but its like trying to blame all cancer on cigarette smoking
<10> Armon...good insight
<5> Lupine: Oh, sure, and Icelanders think Iceland is the best country in the world (for various reasons), same with Germans, Danes, French, name it.
<2> Disco, I agree with you absolutely, I also think and I think you would agree a environmental bill which is sweeping without a ture cost benefit analysis would be insane.
<11> Kyoto had nothing to do with real gains in the enviroment, it was an economic attack upon the US by socialists and neoanarchists
<3> excuse the nuclear tests
<3> excuse everything else
<2> ture = true
<5> TheTaiIor: Oh, yes. Not corrupted, simply stupid.
<3> its ALL cigarette smoking that causes all cancer
<5> TheTaiIor: Simple lack of intelligence, good'ol fashion stupidity.
<6> Armon people liking their country is just not a problem.
<10> Armon..I look outside the US as well
<11> armon "best" is too variable.. but one can make objective statements on specifics.
<3> heh, humans need to stop being idiots
<0> `426Hemi, historically speaking, the earth's climate has been much warmer... and there is no reasonable means to stop those natural cycles, however if the cycle is man made, and can be shown to be so, we should probably control it. Coastal cities could disappear
<10> and in the USA..I see the most personal freedom
<13> I used to be a smoker. less than 1 tenth of 1 percent of cigarette smokers get cancer.
<5> DarthBurg: When it's to the point of "we'll do whatever the want with military power around the world"... I submit that it is, yes. :)
<5> Lupine: Oh, sure.
<6> Nationalism is a weak debate tossed around simply because the Donkeys, and largely the socialists of the world, are intellectually bankrupt.
<11> Armon: for example, America is one of the very few nations that observe the basic human right to defense of ones family and oneself, ones neighbors, community and nation
<3> jibberjab its my opinion that those cities shouldn't have been built on the coast to begin with=)
<10> hear hear
<3> like New Orleans
<2> To not consider the displaced workers of extreme environmentalism the high cost of production since energy is a very important part of production and is in fact essential to production. Every Dollar energy goes up the products we buy go up.
<6> Armon Wooooooo I'll call you when we get there, and we can rant.
<10> Lupine...and don't forget..freedom of speech
<5> Lupine: And I don't want to criticize American freedoms... in fact the USA seems to be the only country on the face of the Earth that at least partially understand the concept of "freedom of speech", but certainly there are areas where the US is just like any other country... namely its foreign policy.
<11> now, it is my _opinion_ that without that, all the rest of the "rights" are meaningless as rights.. and you are just beholden to the auspices of our govn't.
<5> DarthBurg: Yeah! ;)
<14> Armon, well we all expect stupidity to some extent
<5> DarthBurg: Nothing like a blood-pumping rant over a beer. ;)
<0> `426Hemi, I have the same opion of neighborhoods built in flood plains
<12> FreeMrkts: And insanity is exactly what is driving the organized environmental movement. Hell, look at the price Bjorn Lomborg payed among his own peers for merely suggesting that a cost-benefit analysis is necessary before determining environmental policy. He even had his own government officially condemn him.
<10> If you publish a book in the US denying the holocaust..you will not go to prison
<6> werd
<5> TheTaiIor: Oh... don't get me started. ;) RETARDED, I say.
<0> opinion
<11> Armon: sadly, the US media caved in over the Mohemmed cartoons
<6> sadly tho
<3> jibberjab, same here
<6> I have to go be a Capitalist now.
<6> You all have a good one.
<5> Lupine: Understandibly, regardless of views it's a very important topic, freedom of speech.
<10> Lupine..those cartoons were insipid for the most part
<3> jibberjab, if you build on a swamp, EXPECT mosquitos!
<2> If you want to pay 60k for the cheapest car on the market, just go ahead and ignore the economy and become an environmental extremist
<3> heh
<10> very weak
<5> Lupine: The whole thing is more complicated than one would expect.
<11> Cry: right, which makes it even worse the US media caved in
<2> Enviroment above all else... Including life itself.
<0> `426Hemi, but it is morally incumbent upon me to stand up and say that if we are causing the destruction of coastal cities we should do something to stop it.
<2> Since economics is essential to life.
<5> Lupine: Of course, Iceland was ruled by Denmark until 1918, so it's exceptionally close to us, this whole thing, not to mention that we have almost the exact same constitution and national laws as Denmark does.
<10> no piont in reprinting them...they were below US OP-ed standards
<3> jibberjab, i personally think that man has a problem with thinking that its bigger and better than mother nature
<10> Armon....yes
<0> `426Hemi, Humans are a part of nature or do you forget?
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