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<0> THe museums in Iraq are not just Iraqi History, they are the history of Humanity
<1> e-Hernick: actually, I'm thinking of one of the greatest old "Twilight Zone" episodes ever, in which an astronaut and his beautiful wife and daughter were stranded on another planet by some unrepairable failure of their rocket ship that was damaged by the landing. They'd live for over 10 years on the alien planet, when a rescue ship unexpectedly arrives from earth....
<2> I believe that a rain of bullets is sometimes a better choice of attack than a missile
<3> `426Hemi Lott ****ed up tho, he had to go.
<3> and
<4> in my mind Trent should have told his own party to go pound salt
<5> wtf Libby says bush said to leak to the times
<4> he didn't **** up
<6> e-hernick like a robo- puff the magic dragon?
<0> But there are conservatives who disagree on the amount of forced which went into Iraq.
<3> I am not talking about his comments at Stroms funeral
<6> that would be hell on wheels
<4> he hasn't said anything worse than what Cynthia McKinney is up there screeching about
<7> Cryolas it's called the "Crusher" it is a 6 wheeled hybrid-electric unmanned armored vehicle
<4> or what Bob Byrd has stammered about
<3> if Lott was a leader, he would have had support. his little 50/50 power sharing stunt with the donks left a really bad taste in people's mouths.
<7> hybried diesel-electric, I should specify
<0> IO think its a very touch issue becaue of balance, to have plenty enough force to militarily deal with the enemy but not such a huge prescense as for Iraqis to feel like a super occupied nation, more so than they are now.
<2> Cryolas: nah, I'm thinking about a drone plane built around a big gun, kind of like an A-10 Thunderbolt ][, but a drone version, and smaller, designed to work in swarms of a dozen or so.
<6> KoBushi...with Offensive capability?
<8> FT, by "on the cheap" I mean not having sufficient forces to take ground and then secure it...Fallujah is a prime example...it was byp***ed on the way to Baghdad...then had to be dealt with later
<4> Trent Lott should have stuck to his guns and said "**** you donks"
<7> Cryolas yep
<1> Hemi: you haven't exactly seen the rest of the dems, even in the black caucus rushing up to support McKinney, and she is light-years from being any sort of leader in the democratic party, or even the black caucus.
<0> But again that should be the type of thing we debate without having tempers on the channel.
<6> then you have a tank equiv right there
<3> we bust our *** to get a republican majority, but Trent Lott felt he Knew Better, and it cost him, thankfully.
<2> I mean, wouldn't that be a useful attack capability, a dozen small drones, each with a big gun?
<7> Cryolas it has modular weaons capability; the test crusher is equipped with 2 auto .50cals
<4> ++C, support or not, thats what is going on
<6> e-hernick if they could work like a puff...yes
<4> she is up there talking all kindsa **** and not being censored, period
<0> Ded, that was definately a mistake in retrospect. The generals called it. They were wrong to not prevent Fallujah from being reoccupied by insurgents and terrorists.
<6> slow speed heavy armor high saturation
<0> But the buck stops with the president
<4> hell the dems were up there saying Lott should resign
<8> yep
<4> allll together
<4> so don't give me that crap
<7> Cryolas but basically any vehicle based artillery/armorment that the army currently has, the Crusher can use... and more accurately than a crew
<0> The decisions of the general she can override any time he wants but he basically leaves those decisions to the generals
<0> generals he
<3> Cynthis'a little temper tantrum is blowing up nicely in her face. It might be because the rest of the country knows what would happen to them if they bad mouthed a cop out of line like she has.
<6> KoBushi..that follows...
<0> not general she
<6> also it can be modified
<1> Hemi: no one can censor what she's saying. It will be interesting to see how much effort and hustle gets put into finding a primary opponent for her between now and April 26th, the filing deadline in Georgia.
<7> Cryolas http://www.uqm.com/press/news/06-26.html
<6> no need for internal cooling..or first aid kits
<0> Who ? Which Cindy ?
<9> My cousin was in Fallujah, the counted something like 386 incoming mortar rounds to their camp over a period of about 4 months that they could not respond to
<6> I'm with you Ko
<3> Cynthis McKinney Boss
<2> Cryolas: for example, a coordinated dive attack would be very effective. Have the 12 drones fly, at high altitude, towards a common center, and then, at the last instant before collision, they all dive straight down towards their target, and they start unloading their guns straight down, until the guns overheat or are out of ammo, and then fly away
<4> hell i bet the majority of the people here who had something against Trent Lott can't even remember what he freakin said
<0> rond why ? They came from populated civilian areas ?
<6> McKinney Wigs will be hot sellers on halloween
<3> `426Hemi have you been reading anything I said about lott?
<9> they had GPS controlled respons mechanism with their weaponry and would have hit probably all 386 mortars
<4> hahahahha CRY!
<3> I am not talking about his comments at Stroms funeral
<4> Darth been trying to i will scroll up
<9> Free politics of it
<7> Cryolas I predict that within 15 years we'll see whole "units" of these vehicles controlled by a 2-man team remotely, with direct tactical tie-in to command
<0> mcKinney is hurting her party, Again.. But the party smartly is distancing themself from her.
<3> we bust our *** to get a republican majority, but Trent Lott felt he Knew Better, and it cost him, thankfully.
<6> e-hernick I was thinking about a isolated fundie strong point...
<7> 2-men, running say, 12 vehicles with various armorment
<3> Trent Lott (R) ****Up
<4> nah
<6> send in a puff drone to unload its 20,000 rounds of ammo
<9> Free also by the same token 386 incoming mortars missed everything
<4> Trent was cool
<0> rond, the Generals made the decisions.
<4> everyone makes mistakes
<0> The rules of engagement are defined.
<2> Cryolas: sure, but a single drone isn't the right way. I think that sending many smaller drones is a better tactic
<4> thats the entire thing, people are acting like our politicians don't put their foot in their mouths
<4> they are human
<4> not gods
<6> maybe have another puf drone with a missile supply
<3> `426Hemi you keep going back to what he said, I am talking about SOMETHING HE ACTUALLY DID
<6> depends e-hernick
<1> Hemi: It's not hard at all to remember the nub of Lott's sentiment when praising Strom Thurmond (who ironically, learned better himself and near the end of his life won grudging respect from blacks in South Carolina) - that this country would have been better off had Thurmond's dixiecrats been successful in winning the presidency in 48 (no doubt at all what their central agenda was)
<3> different
<2> Cryolas: if the drones are small, they can be m*** produced, and will be cheaper. I mean, gun drones should be very small, so that the army and air force and marines can purchase tens of thousands
<8> FreeMrkts, generals make tactical decisions yes...strategic ones are made in Washington...for good or ill
<4> you have the left attacking ANYTHING that the right says, you have the right sitting back going "sigh, yeap we are bad bad bad people"
<6> the drones need superior armor
<0> But on this issue of Amnesty or whatever you want to call it, The Business republicans by and large support it, the social conervatives are the ones primarily who are against it.
<4> if the right says "and" they attack it to mean something other than "and"
<2> Cryolas: they're effective when in m***ive swarms, or in continuous streams.. you could have gunfire rain down for ten days and nights without stop, with a good rotation of small drones, with hundreds of them over a city at any given time
<6> the puffs could take a lot of damage
<7> e-Hernick the US Army currently has an x-prize type competition for a flying drone who's dimensions fit within a 1ft cube, and can fly a certain range/time (I foget the range and time but it seemed pretty high when I read about it)
<4> the republicans need to grow balls
<4> period
<0> And on the Democratic side the unions are against it and politicians who are beholden to unions, and the real liberals, in this case a good form of liberalism are for it.
<6> I would envision the drones being used for support..or specific location saturation
<2> KoBushi: that will be awesome when they develop one
<4> stop acting like boobs and start acting like leaders, if democrats want to call you out and debate in public, than DO IT
<7> which btw, I think government backed x-prize type competitions should be the route to take for government research in the future for, most everything
<2> KoBushi: the main problem is the power source
<0> I was impressed by the Drones which took out those 3 people planting a roadside bomb.
<6> the biggest worry about a robotic army is ...what capabilities will their AI have
<4> if democrats want to sit there and bastardise a subject, get into verbal exchanges with them
<0> That was terrific.
<7> e-Hernick well, the weight of the power source anyway
<2> KoBushi: exactly
<0> I wish we could do that a lot more.
<4> acting like you are above the fray is only making them targets
<10> Hi #politcs
<0> Hi
<6> Terminator flicks would ive you something upon which to dwell
<4> they are PART of the fray
<7> e-Hernick there is a solar powered UAV that's only 3ft wide; it can store enough solar energy during the day to fly all night
<2> KoBushi: LiPoly batteries are interesting
<4> start acting like politicians instead of weenies
<0> There really is no such thing as a robotic army, all robots are controlled by people.
<3> I have a LiPo battery
<6> FT...the day is coming though
<3> i get a kick out of the acronym
<0> People fly the drones, people make the decision to fire a hellfire missile.
<10> robots can theoreticall obtain autonomy..
<2> KoBushi: but of course electric drones will only be autonomous for a few minutes.. which is why they should be accompanied by ground tender units that can quickly change their batteries
<6> the Crusher and the Predator
<4> if a liberal democrat calls you a liar, call them a liberal pencil pusher who is willing to sell this country out to the highest bidder in a second
<7> e-Hernick meh, lithium-air batteries
<2> KoBushi: Military units should be accompanied by ground-based robots that can carry loads, as well as release battery-powered airborne observation drones
<0> People control the robotic soldier which can enage the enemy in urban combat without risking the life of the first guy who sticks his hear around the corner.
<4> stop playing like "Ohh I am better than these personal attacks"
<7> Li-Air has the potential to have the same power:weight storage density as gasoline
<6> 426..I ue term...clueless
<0> but there robots are computerized machines which people operate and monitor.
<3> "You are a right wing nut job!" "You are a liberal wiener"
<6> FT...so far...
<2> Also, long-range ***ault-capable airborne drones should fly high above groups of military units, ready to dive and provide support if necessary
<0> And we havent really used much the robotic soldiers.
<4> exactly darth
<4> stop the bull**** of letting them attack
<6> The Libertarian to both: You are obsolete
<10> Free as in the Terminator movies, it is possible for a SkyNet type AI, which is geographically redundant, to relinquish control from human control.
<3> `426Hemi ya know whats funny?
<2> jibberjab: indeed, and that is desirable
<3> `426Hemi what really makes me laugh
<6> jibberjab...yes quite plausible
<10> why would you want the terminator movies to really happen ?
<1> fart jokes?
<3> "Washington is to Partisan these days!"
<7> it's simple, you don't give AI to the robots with guns
<7> :)
<3> **** I get a kick out of that.
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