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<0> 1-800-tel-aviv was not an option during the 60s
<1> pretty badly IMO
<2> Publius: but the plots to kill castro are pretty much accepted as occurred
<0> Publius...rarely
<3> castro leaves his country occasionally
<4> CRY - but I was surprised that Cuba would actually allow US help after last hurricane -- but limited help --
<3> ace him then
<0> as soon as Castro croaks...we are set up :)
<1> how about...failing to the tell the US some things here and there...as well as the Yom Kippur war?
<2> we got a billboard war goin on down there now
<2> in cuba
<4> td -- don't need to ace him -- he's dying anyway
<5> Kaliuna: it let the Pope visit, too
<6> a pretty young wife in a convenience store once told me, "my husband wants to steal your dog"...my cattle dog, Legion, was in my pickup...I told her, "he'll be a hard dog to steal."....Legion was Murder Inc.
<0> yep
<2> http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/americas/cuba/3690.html
<4> gloriae yup sure did... oh HI --
<5> maybe Castro, Carter, and Buckley will all die in the same weak
<3> he could easily live another 10+yrs
<1> HAHAHa
<4> gloriae-- hmm
<5> week*
<0> then shortly after his death...an AC Fleet parks itself off of Havana...
<3> then saddam takes power
<4> but who will take over in Cuba??
<1> CryHavoc: Well...I'm a youngin but I don't like the smell of the USS liberty thing
<0> 10,000 Marines appear in Gitmo...then Havana gets a call...
<6> Kali, somebody better I think.
<2> i think its hilarious we put the riff raff in cuba
<6> They've got a good underworld going in Cuba.
<0> Kaliuna a US-Friendly government....AT THE POINT OF A GUN if necessary
<2> at gitmo
<4> It really is a shame - cause the coastline of Cuba used to have some fabulous resorts - still do -- kinda offlimit to US citizens
<1> HAHA
<4> Cry -- dunno -- hard to say right now...
<1> Gitmo is in Cuba? Are you freakin kidding me. I haven't looked into that raelly
<2> yeah and all those terrorists have a beautiful beach view
<2> Publius: dude of course
<3> nobody should vacation in Cuba, its unamerican
<1> hahahahahahahaha
<0> Kaliuna...and they will again...after we move in and first square things
<2> Publius: guantanamo bay, cuba
<3> Kaliuna: why were you vacationing in cuba
<4> Cry -- sigh
<1> well, I don't know nothin bout Cuba, too young for that
<0> td...Americans are NOT allowed into Cuba...it has been Cl*** IV since the embargo
<1> they are just annoying and have people running away all the time
<1> to me
<4> td -- had older relatives who had been there - got pictures ...
<0> gopp is cubano
<2> Publius: teddy roosevelt 'leased' it from cuba way back around the turn of the 20th century
<2> we've been there ever since
<3> Americans can travel to Cuba through other countries cant they
<2> and i dare castro to do something abou tit
<0> fordnut...we took it from Spain
<5> can and do
<1> fordnut: Ah, so Jimmmy Carter didn't give that away like he did Panama?
<0> td nope
<4> Cry -- yup since 60s -- but ... sigh
<5> there's a cute program to bring pianos to cuba, for example
<2> CryHavoc: yeah, thats true, but we did sign a formal lease with the govt of cuba
<5> www.havapiana.org I think
<4> Cry -- well they aren't suppose to - but they do
<0> Cl*** IV = American citizens are forbidden to visit
<1> what cl*** am I?
<5> newp, something similar
<0> Current Cl*** IV NK and Cuba
<2> americans cant go to cuba, iran, burma
<2> BUT
<2> libya baby
<1> well
<2> get your tickets to tripoli
<3> beautiful beaches
<0> Publius.. 4 cl***es of foreign countries...
<2> moammar turned
<3> in tripoli
<1> why would ANYONE want to go those places anyway
<1> oooh
<1> to*
<2> we love moammar now
<2> he has repented
<1> I'm being honest
<3> moammar is the man
<2> COLONEL
<0> I - safe for US citizens II not as safe III - moderate to dangerous IV travel forbidden
<3> Bush's best buddy
<2> still a colonel
<5> its motto, 'send a piana to havana'
<1> AH
<2> after 25 years
<0> exampes:
<2> no more promotions
<5> www sendapiana.com
<3> because colonel has a sweet ring to it
<0> Western Europe , Costa Rica Canada, Mexico Cl*** I
<2> dude his sungl***es have a sweet tint to them too
<0> Africa is all Cl*** II and III
<2> we got all moammar's a-bomb making stuff in tennessee now
<0> NK and Cuba are Cl*** IV
<2> OAK RIDGE
<1> CryHavoc: Does America still have the most immigrants trying to enter?
<1> in teh world
<2> yes
<0> Publius yes...by simple attrition
<1> puhahhaha
<0> these cl***es are dynamic...that is mutable
<5> Publius: yes
<0> USSR was Cl*** IV for a while...
<5> and there are good reasons for that
<0> Russia is...yep...Cl*** III
<1> well I know them
<5> aye
<0> Serbia during Civil war was Cl*** IV
<1> it's just fun to have facts like that to use against the " the world hates America" crap
<0> Iran was Cl*** IV at one time..Iraq as well
<0> Saudi Arabia is Cl*** III I believe
<0> China is cl*** III Taiwain may be cl*** I or II
<1> hahaha
<1> CryHavoc: That is a sly way of recognizing Taiwan as a seperate nation
<0> if you are caught going to a cl*** IV country nopt for sanctioned activities...you are in trouble
<5> one of the funny things about the cold war was how easy it was to get into the united states and how hard it was to get out of the soviet union, which was of course insisting what a terrible place the usa was
<5> not funny to those trapped inside the ussr
<5> funny ironic (extremely)
<0> Publius..I see it as Taiwan being more safe for Americans
<1> hahaha
<0> gloriae...remember the Gates test? lol
<5> no, I don't remember a gates test, what's that?
<1> CryHavoc: Oh yeah. I have a very close friend who is Tawainese. She was born here but her parents are from there. They are a different people
<0> when us Opens their gates people flood in...
<0> when we close them people try to get in still
<0> when USSR opened gates..people left asap..
<5> when the ussr opens its gates, people flood out
<1> hahahah
<0> when closed. people risked life to leave
<1> gloriae: What are the Chinese restrictions on emmigration?
<5> Publius: I don't know
<0> conclusion: if US is so bad a place, why do we have to keep people out?
<1> I know quite a few people from China
<0> Mongolia has restrictions
<5> my ex travels to taiwan, korea, and shanghai (among other places) frequently on business
<1> well, clearly China is different than the USSR
<5> shanghai is a more recent addition, just in the past few years
<0> and since 9/11 ME emigration is flagged
<1> CryHavoc: How about Egypt?
<0> China and Russia both have unfinished internal business
<1> I would guess it is ok in general to travel there?
<0> Egypt is cl*** II/III and immigrants from there are flagged
<1> Kuwait?
<0> Cl*** II
<0> no ME country is Cl*** I
<1> I believe my school has the most international students in the US
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