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<0> this is what I normally use: 8 simultaneously sampled 24bit 100K+ input bandwidth http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/5031
<1> It is related to the sum and difference signals from the interference that happens in the room.
<0> often with 8 of those cards, for 64channels
<2> AMD may be in touble and intel may push out ahead again.
<3> Crpa
<3> I just bought an AMD
<3> oh well
<1> The ear is very sensitive to localization information in the high end.
<0> FT: and Dell just announced they're going to use AMD :-)
<4> FT..its a never ending battle...what now?
<5> FT: ?
<2> Headline on zdnet.
<5> how is amd in troule?
<4> Lupine..Dell will not go 100% AMD lol
<0> Yaakov: it is one of those things, that the average person is unaware of.. but when pointed out to them, they can instantly recogize it.
<3> man



<2> On several occasions, over the past couple of years, I've heard Intel executives predict that any advantages that AMD has on the desktop would evaporate. Although I can't tell if it's the case here, one explanation Intel offered as part of its prediction was AMD's choice to marry its memory controllers to its processors in the silicon.
<5> the average person doesn't need 3Ghz
<3> Competition in capitalism is most aparent in markets like computer processors
<5> hehe
<3> like AMD/Intel direct competitoin
<1> Lupine|: Yes... when I sold hi-fi it was VERY easy to demo.
<5> the average person doesn't need dual core processors
<0> Cry: they're to use AMD for multi-way single-image systems.. 4 and 8 CPU systmes
<5> the average person doesn't need all the bells and whistles
<4> Herzen AMD/Intel = cut throat competition
<0> Dell tried tog et into SIS's with Itanium.. but that fell over badly
<1> Lupine|: And it sold the better stuff every time. But then, I was always trying to sell the 80%-bang-for-the-buck stuff.
<5> AMD is cheaper
<5> thats' waht i go by
<4> Lupine...esoteric PCs
<3> I bought a 3700+
<2> So last Friday when I saw the first set of independent benchmark results pitting a mid-end Intel E6600 "Conroe" 2.4 GHz CPU (due next month) against the just released flagship extreme edition AMD FX-62 CPU, I started wondering if AMD worst nightmare was coming true. Intel's ~$250 E6600 CPU annihilated AMD's ~$1000 Extreme Edition AM2 based FX-62!
<0> Yaakov: I rarely bought any of my audio equipment.. normally slide product sideways for services ;-)
<3> A64
<4> if I ever built a 4 or an 8...I would use Intel CPUs
<0> CH: naw, servers mostly.
<4> Lupine john Q does not need 4 or 8 cpus :)
<1> Lupine|: I never bought stuff because I couldn't afford things that would make me happy.
<2> Cheaper doesnt matter unless pound for pound and gig by gig you dont get the value.
<0> I never see 4 way Intel's anymore. 2 way with dual cores seems to be the limit on the current gen
<5> CryHavoc: and john q is the biggest consumer
<4> I will pay more for more stability and usability
<5> there's no point to having stable hardware when your software ****s
<5> hehe
<4> L0c0 I may build a Quad CPU box one day
<2> I told my daughter she wants an ipod type device, to write down 4 mp3 players, name, price, price per gigatye and cost, and bring it to me.
<6> lupine: what do you record exactly? I met another guy, for all I know it was you, who used mics and didn't record music....and I was turned onto this page:
<4> just to see if I can do it :)
<6> http://www.bkhome.com/bk_template2.asp?spid=198&ctid=6
<7> you guys are such geeks :)
<3> FreeTrade, ipods lose when you look at it price per gb
<5> I use an AthlonXP 1500+
<3> FreeTrade, they lose so bad
<1> Lupine|: But... I loved to listen to the Direct-to-Disk stuff from Sheffield on a top quality table/tonearm/cartridge with a nice Cl*** A amp and a pair of Fried A3's.
<7> hi all :)
<2> Price per gigabyte and reputation were the two most important factors.
<3> FreeTrade, they're only in it for name-brand value and trendyness
<2> Hey Comet!
<7> lol
<5> the only reason i'm going to upgrade to a 64bit cpu later is b/c i want to use certain DVD authority software and those are the only ones that have the proper instruction code (SSE2)
<0> Yaakov: yea, that's me :-) mostly vibration analysis for industrial purposes.. accelerometers, strain guages, acoustic, pressure, etc
<2> Herzen I know which is why i said buy a HP or other brand for under $100.00
<4> CB...in my case..it is simple attrition...
<4> I already built a Dual CPU system
<1> Lupine|: Some of the most USELESS endorsements for audio gear come from musicians. They don't even HEAR the equipment, they hear the music.
<1> Lupine|: They could listen to a wax cylinder of Carusso and say it is a fantastic recording.
<2> Well right now the news about AMD hasnt hit the stock market, they are both down today amd is down more but they have risen a lot on expectations.
<2> AMD has further to fall.
<5> FT: i have an HP 3320 printer. costs $40. new catridges cost me $35
<3> Yeah, I just bought an AMD processor
<3> lol
<5> I simply buy a new printer each time
<4> its the same with ZTI vs. NVidia....
<5> hehe
<4> ATI



<4> cut throat competition
<1> L0c0-: I saw a *19.95* Lexmark at Target.
<4> the bulk of their business is from John Q
<2> I have a scanner which is the best I have seen. I bought it for bargain price through e-cost or someone maybe it was actually epson, in fact it was epson.
<0> Yep.. welcome to conspicous consumption
<5> video processors are a big one
<4> very few peeps need or grt Dual GPU cards
<5> b/c of the HUGE video came market
<2> Herzen, I just bought an AMD processor for my son.
<5> tahts' where innovation and speed can matter
<3> Which one?
<6> comet: boys and their toys ;)
<2> But I suspect it will be fine for his purposes.
<0> my scanner is a godsend, HP 4670 it is just a flat pane of gl***, you lay down over the document
<7> okay I have to go out and run some errands. We leave Weds morning and I finally decided to start putting stuff together for the trip today. lol
<7> I am a last minute packer
<7> VemoD .. lol. They are such nerds :)
<4> I have an HP 4850....
<4> it can even scan slides
<5> i have a visioneer something
<4> ahh
<5> cost me $40. i rarely have to scan ****, but it works well
<4> VisionQueer lol
<5> **** = stuff
<5> sorry
<5> hehe
<4> Paperport?
<5> yeah for making quick copies
<4> those used to be the scanners from hell
<5> which is nice actualy
<2> Cya Comet!
<5> i've had this one for 3yrs. not a single problem. but again, i dont use it much
<4> I am willing to cough up extra for HP...because it is HP
<3> HP has pretty good ink support
<0> BTW guys" this is a great device for emergency computer support
<0> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156102
<3> imo
<2> epson 3170 photo scanner (Full size scanner) best scanner I have every owned.
<4> HP still maks kick*** Printers and scanners
<3> HP has pretty good ink support
<3> imo
<4> hell..they even had a beta x64 scanner driver for my model
<4> not only does it scan...but it does so direct from app now
<5> Lupine: if you put the hdd inside, can you use the regular 4pin power from the PSU?
<2> I went to epson on the advice of an architect and a picture of the bay which was so cystal clear a photo shop couldnt have done better. But I realize other companies have caught up.
<4> Epson Ink jet??
<4> AVOID lexmark......
<2> One thing about epson I like is you get 6 colors of ink.
<4> save yer self m***ive grief
<6> comet: Curious what trip?
<5> Lupine: newegg has another one thats' just ide to usb that i've been debating. i have a usb card and it has 4 external and 1 internal connectors (dunno why), but thought i could use an hdd inside and be able to pop in my old dvd player
<4> CB is off to her Hax0rz Convention...she is key black hat speaker
<5> that's such a turnon
<2> Yeah the one lexmark we have owned was not impressive nor the hp. I quit HP many years ago when their products didnt perform as they stated.
<2> But I am buying HP again.
<5> yeah i like hp, never been disappointed
<2> What I mean is I would now reconsider it again.
<4> well..my HP laser jet is still kicking after 5 years
<2> Or consider it.
<2> Color ?
<2> I need color.
<4> still using same toner cartridge too
<4> I don't need color
<6> USB is for keyboards and mice and joysticks
<4> photo printers are all inkjet....
<8> VemoD: And printers
<4> ever a color laser can not match a photoprinter...
<3> laser printers are bad***
<9> usb ports are for EVERYTHING rly
<2> Well thats a limitation of older lazers, they pay off when you have a huge printing need. like you print off 200 flyers
<9> usb 2 kicks
<4> but no way can a inkjet match a laser printer for text quality....
<6> I guess...
<3> CryHavoc, I would never consider buying a non-laser printern ow


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