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<0> bmc: seals in the fuel system.
<1> bmc: it affects steel.. which is what many intake runners, etc are made out of.
<2> US cititizens are pompous...driving their new FU2 trucks
<3> $2k? hah i can buy a brand new 500ci engine from GM performace parts for that!
<3> :P
<0> Show me a price online somewhere.
<2> Trucks are more popular...because everyone needs to buy bundles from Sams Club
<4> VemoD...what company makes the **** You 2 Model?
<2> Gotta hall those goodies :)
<2> cry: Every company does
<4> yah.....sammys club gives you a good deal....
<4> provided you buy the equiv of half a pallet
<1> I only need a pickup once or twice a year.. i rent the one at HomeDepot or Lowes for $19 :-)
<3> Yaakov looking, GM doesnt give the price on their site of course
<3> #5 ZZ4 crate motor $2200
<5> paceparts



<4> my next car is gonna have some cargo capacity
<1> cry: that is why I love wagons.. almost all the utility, much better performance
<3> geez, varying prices
<3> one for $2200 one for $4095
<4> Lupine better mileage than a minivan
<5> 3.8L Yaakov?
<3> heres a nice race engine :P Part number #12498793 COMPLETE ENGINE $11,995.00
<3> haha
<1> CH: well... not for my BMW.. but our P***at wagon gets ~39mpg
<5> bmc: have you ever ordered from paceparts
<3> no
<5> btw mr. bmc, change your nickname to gmc
<0> 3.1L, 2300 bucks shipped.
<2> Personally...halling a truck load of TP, diapers, detergeant, and cereal is fine as long as I can get it to where its going...but we'll go shopping again in a couple days
<4> I want something that can carry some cargo if needed....and I do not need a SUV or a m***ive pick up truck
<3> so we'll say as a high estimate $3k for a brand new motor
<5> free 48 state shipping
<3> most modifications for an older vehicle wont be anywhere near that cost
<6> get a sub
<6> aru
<3> just dont get a ****ty mechanic
<5> CryHavoc: Tacoma
<3> i had a fuel pump and serpentine belt replaced at the local exxon cost me > $600
<3> bad decision
<3> only paid $700 for the car!
<5> bmc..shame on you
<3> a rare misjudgement on my part
<3> i let them rip me off
<3> haha
<3> i was about to tell them to just let it sit and tow it back home
<3> i know how to change the fuel pump, but i couldnt get the car high enough to drop the gas tank
<3> cost me $600 for that
<6> i remember a point where the cost of tabs on this car i had exceeded its value
<3> same setup as on my old blazer
<3> simple fix, drop the tank, get a punch to spin this clip on the top the tank
<3> remove the pump, disconnect sending unit
<2> Well for $700 you better be able to haul a whole lot of goodies
<3> replace pump, reconnect sending unit, replace clip, replace tank
<3> all done
<3> :P
<3> $600! for that
<2> I mean...you gotta be big and mean something when your on the road....with goodies
<5> redneck style
<3> i cant even road rage with my car anymore
<3> needs new plugs and wires
<3> so it hesitates and sputters
<2> Shoot...if the stuffed bunny falls out, blame it on Iran.....cause hell, you're a man!!!!
<5> bmc: is a VW bus?
<3> i hit the exit and dump the pedal
<3> its like 5 mins getting up to speed limit
<3> haha
<3> na, its an old chevy
<3> i drive a car till it stops moving
<5> gmc/bmc: i used to have a '82 malibu wagon
<3> literally
<5> managed to get it up to 245k on the original 305 and then sold it
<3> last car i had was an s-10 blazer, i had just replaced the water pump
<2> bmc: What if the battery is just dead?
<3> got 3/4 of the way home and it overheated
<3> was a leak



<3> i said "**** it"
<3> and kept going
<3> motor locked up at the end of my driveway
<3> last time that vehicle moved
<7> ouch
<5> redneck style
<3> we checked for leaks when i replaced it
<3> let it idle for like 30 mins
<3> nothing
<3> i was pissed so i just said **** it
<2> uh...bmc is onto something
<3> had it hauled to the dump with the brand new water pump and all
<2> He's pissed...!
<3> was a freebie anyways
<5> water pump is what, 45 dollars
<2> friggen cars
<1> "How to piss off people at Disney World" Get a fast p***, and while you cruise on by the hundreds of people waiting five hours for a 3 minute ride.. sing "Skipping the line! Skipping the line! ( set to the song, Breaking the law..)
<3> i had just replaced it!
<7> I once borrowed a car to get to work. It smoked like crazy. I was on the freeway, halfway to work, and it stopped smoking. I remember kidding around and saying it prolly ran out of oil to burn. the engine locked up about 1 min later
<3> haha
<8> I bought a 240z many years ago. used. Ti died. I could not afford to repair...so for 2 years I walked to work with a dead Z sittlign in driveway and a car payment monthly
<3> you can supposedly break them loose and get them going again
<3> im like once it locks im done with it
<7> wasnt my car <shrug>
<8> I did actually make a little money on it when I sold it...it was a rare early one
<5> i had a ford aerostar with 187k, burned clean, didn't miss at all, sold it while still running
<3> someone told me to drip some oil down the plug holes and let it sit
<3> never tried it though
<1> I know of a guy, who had a ~1 year old Celica GTS [ new body style ]. It was fine when he left for work, by the time he got th work, the engine was toast.
<1> $11,000 for a new engine!
<3> i guess its suppose to put a layer of oil between the pistons/rings and cylinder all
<3> wall*
<8> bmc not oil. atf. it is lighter viscosity
<1> had to fight with Toyota for six months or so.. they finally replaced it.
<1> A few weeks after getting it, he put on one of those "cold air intakes".. and promptly drove thru flooding from Hurricane Katrina.. ingested water.. BOOM! another $11,000
<3> i actually like working on cars, its just to much of a pita with alot of vehicles
<2> I thought every man knows another man who knows how to fix cars?
<3> i have family with a shop :P lift and all
<1> He filed with insurance to pay for THAT one.. got it fixed.. then sold it. He drives a Saturn now.
<8> btw. old trick: to lube valves from the inside: take of air filter and pour atf in the carb while reving engine. does not work on a fuely but will if u have a carb
<3> but i would have had to tow it around
<2> Buy a fricken book people
<2> Its not hard
<3> well my problem was i couldnt get my car jacked up high enough, and sturdy enough where i would crawl under it
<3> to drop the gas tank
<1> pilgrim: i know someone who has two pristine 240z's in storage. One has less than 15 miles on the odometer.
<3> if i couldve managed that id have fixed it myself
<8> Lupine I owned a 1971 240 and a 1st model 260 2+2
<3> i shouldve just went and borrowed some floor jacks
<8> the 2+2 was my baby
<1> Nissan actually "resold" 240z's a few years back
<8> the 240z was a short block chevy bottom with a Mercedes top and SU carbs
<1> I dont know why he thinks they'll be worth money like a Bugatti or something, but he still hangs onto them.
<9> Lupine| if I have y=sqrt(x) and y=x^2
<3> i liked the old datsun/nissan turbos
<9> if I want to find limits
<9> sqrt(x)-x^2
<3> could hop them up fairly easily i bet
<8> same engine ast the PL620 PU only with 6 cyl
<1> gopp: ask pilgrim, he's the math guru
<9> I get (x\/2 + x^2)
<8> ooo Bugatti...
<9> pilgrim` hey
<8> hola gopp
<9> do if I am doing it r ight
<2> bmc: My friend is a datsun fatanatic....he's got 3....none of them run right :)
<9> hola Lupine| bmc VemoD
<2> But he's figuring it out :)
<1> pilgrim: way back when, I had a job of installing the "factory" sound system in lamborghini's :-)
<9> tryiing to find the volume
<2> Hey gopp
<8> thing is a Z engine fits the motor mounts and the clutch spline on a PL620 PU. youneed to stretch the engine well 4 inchs and that takes an after market radiator...but..
<1> they'ld come in with just the holes in the vehicle.. and I'ld install an all-alpine system. damn good $ per hour, but wasn't a regular gig


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