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<0> call them up and say you're doing "genealogy research" get mother's maiden name
<1> US-Male...a la Highlander hehehe
<0> heh
<2> Here is the problem with voting its pretty straight forward, the GOP wants people to prove they are who they are to vote. The Democrats want the burden of proof on the state than they are not citizens
<2> and the logic is simple
<0> this was written in a book called "The Paper Trip"
<2> Republicans benefit from the maximum legal votes.
<2> Democrats benefit from the Maximum votes periofd
<0> back in '80 or so
<1> What you have..is a guy who has been creeping around since the Revolutionary war...
<1> because the Dems know that illegals = Democrat votes
<2> because they get advantage of welfare people who havent registered, those few illegals who are paid to vote (Its not really that many) and those people who invent people and addresss and register them and vote as much as 1000 times through one persons actions.
<3> No surprise there..democrats put their own pursuit of power before this country EVERY single chance they gety
<1> and the GOP knows that illegal workers help big businesses bottom line
<2> MudFlip if I go there I am going from fact to opinion.
<1> said businesses usually support the GOP
<2> So I cant go there right now
<3> i can!
<2> My opinion I can put forth at some other time
<3> :)
<2> true you can!
<3> i just throw it out there :)
<1> McCain-Kennedy was born from that truth
<2> Cry until recently I htink its probably heading to 70% BUT 80% of small business owners voted Republican.
<0> oh man it's still published lol
<2> Not because buisness owners are fundamentally changing and want to pay high taxes
<1> FT...then the GOPs position is more apparent
<0> this is how it used to work.... dunno if it still works --> http://edenpress.com/showbook.asp?index=483@8@A
<2> some buisnessness benefti from welfare programs for business like the SMall Buisness Administration which gives low priced loans and the fact that more non republicans are starting to go into independent business.
<2> The computer industry made a lot of normally would be considered workers sub contractors which is legally defined as a buisness.
<2> Workers into sub contractors that should read
<2> Man its hot here
<1> but I have shown why neither party wants the border sealed...
<1> despite the potential threat
<0> FT do you have AC ?
<0> I don't even bother, it's rarely this hot
<2> its true to say that neither party wants the border sealed alone, And thats because you would have to imply almost he whole party. The GOP is very split on this very split
<1> FT...whoever seals the border.....political ammo for the other side
<1> thats a fact
<2> On the other hand, democrats have different motives sometimes and there is an element in the party which is very much anti immigration , the union and some other special interests and socially conservative democrats of course.
<1> equally as bad...anti-immigration
<2> Cry yes, I dont think a lot of Republicans realize this, but if they go to hard on the border issue and seem almost to be racist whether or not thats true is irrelevant its the preception, they risk a lot of political capital. And may well lose elections based on this.
<2> On the other hand working cl*** blacks and white some constituencies who normally wouldnt support Republicans will.
<4> hillary came out swinging in 04-05 anti-illegal-immigrants, so hard that even the right wing flinched. Course she swung around 180 on the issue now
<2> Becaue the black working cl*** (this is unscientific and based on my observation and anecdotal experience which is extenstive) They HATE The illegals.
<2> I think if you took a poll of blacks you would find overwhelming support for blocking immigration period.
<1> FT.....valid stance
<0> bud`: luckily Repubs can play tapes of her saying that whenver she opens her mouth
<2> Its competition lets face it
<1> competition in the market
<2> and the number one way I can tell which party a person belongs too is simple. I ask them what their business or job is.
<0> Public figures too often forget the tape recorder is rolling.
<2> If its a gvoernment job odds are htey are democrat,
<2> union, democrat
<2> lower working cl*** =democrat
<1> Hillary has flip flopped on numerous positions....
<2> War veteran from ww1 or ww2 republican
<2> vientnam war ? Split
<1> FT..high Ranking GS would be an exception
<2> Current soilders, Republican
<2> Teachers Democrat
<1> yep
<2> Progfessors democrats
<1> Business CEO - GOP
<1> not all profs...but most
<0> ah but what if you're a teacher WW2 vet =)
<1> GOP
<2> Middle cl*** educated to bachelors degree or masters in business or science but not working for ht egovernment trpublican
<0> see they need weighting factors
<1> and most of those are retired or dead US-Male
<1> My HS english teacher died in 2001....
<2> Bachelors degree or masters in sociology, social welfare, gay and feminist studies, Black studies, etc. Democrat
<1> he stormed ashore at Iwo
<0> I'd bet someone has made a model with weighting factors to predict given all info
<2> Cry, Economics is the number one indicator of party affiliation
<1> FT...PHD in hard sciences?
<1> GOP
<2> The dumbest and poorest americans are demcorats and the most educated are democrats.
<1> thats true
<2> The vast middle ground of BA, BS, MA, MS is mostly repubican
<1> but ironically, the GOP gets more money from its supporters
<0> I voted for Bush's dad when I was in poverty
<2> Cry, Well a lot of phds work for the government.
<2> My cousins do
<1> 1 Bill Gates = several glitterait
<2> they do top secrete science for the military
<2> of which I know nothing other than that
<1> FT..some of them may be truly apolitical
<2> And that thier phd's are in math
<1> hell theres a rumor that SCOTUS does not vote....
<1> at least in November
<2> OH, And just so people dont think I am nuts and that I invented all this, there are also a number of studies which back it up.
<2> Also its just plain logical..
<0> FT: well at work I see some hate-Bush bumper stickers... I think the guy has a degree in biology
<2> Peopel tend to care most about economics.
<1> I agree in your base ***essments
<2> US, hes an idiot and I tell you why.
<0> I don't know him well enough to know his level
<1> US-Male...Biology involveds hard science
<0> whether it's BS< MS< PhD
<0> CryHavoc: of course. But he hates Bush
<2> If the demcocrats had thier way they woudl regulate drug profits reducing them substantially, Investors and companies would take a lot less risks and do a lot less reasearch and that guy would be fired.
<1> then he would be an anomaly
<2> US, but most of your peers I would guess are Republican.
<0> FT: yeah but such people are generally not rational anyway
<2> Because thier very job depends upon it.
<2> US thats true.
<1> FT...and kiss new meds goodbye
<0> so can we expect rational voting... he may think "The Earth is more inportant!"
<2> they havent thought it through to its logical conclusion
<0> he may ignore the fact that "the earth" is not really threatened by either paty
<5> i'm so sick of the political bumper stickers
<0> emotional voter
<2> US, Also if patents were made illegal as Believe it or not people have actually said so on this channel.. That they should be illegal, There goes the motivation for any drug company
<1> I had a Bio prof who was apolitical.....
<2> There is no more reason to produce new drugs
<2> Its money down the toilet
<1> in hi words 'the inanity of the political parties is something for which I have not the time....too much research to do"
<2> US you will find the occ***ional person working against his economic interest for irrational religious or environmental fears.
<0> FT: the company is reluctant to recommend a particular party to vote for, but they do try to get people to vote
<0> knowing full well that the stats will help them
<5> most of them are just crap, especially the 'support our troops' garbage. I can't stand that dishonesty. They don't want me to support the troops, they want me to support the bush administration's war. And whats more is either 1 or both of the following is true: 1. They don't have the balls to be honest, 2. They're too stupid to realize that supporting the troops != supporting what some suits in washington tell them to do
<1> or in here.....
<2> US, Of course at the corporate level few companies want to make enemies of either party
<1> whan a channel reg decides to get a rise out of people...
<2> and in fact Ill bet money US MAle your company contributes to a lot of democratic campaigns.
<0> FT yeah they don't want you to feel like they're telling you who to vote for, which is good
<1> by contravening their own position
<2> And probably slightly more Republican ones
<0> FT: yeah they probably do
<2> US, it is alos in thier self interest
<2> if they sell out the democrats they democrats will want revenge
<2> and they companies will suffer
<5> I don't like this war, but if I did support hte war...and I was going to have a bumper sticker (I have 0 bumper stickers on my car), it would say "support the occupation of iraq." or something else that's honest.
<2> This is why when you jump from Small Buisness to large corporations ? The politics of who supports who changes a lot
<2> usually they support both parties
<1> I have 4 bumper stickers on my car at this time
<2> And contribute to both parties
<1> #1: The UN is corrupt and Anti-American
<0> FT: well particularly in CA, the company knows who will most likely win on the state leve (except for Ahhnold)
<0> level
<1> #2: You! Out of the gene pool!
<2> Cry, Yo redneck ;) Just kidding ;) You are right..
<1> #3: CNN = LIES
<1> #4: Suppoert The Fairtax
<2> But ill bet lefties who p*** you on the road think, ****ing redneck
<5> cnn = lies is on your car? lol
<1> not when they read the stickers...
<2> Just like when I p*** extremist leftists, I think God what an idiot.
<2> But I dont have a single bumper sticker on my car.
<1> no Redneck i could think of would have that ***ortment
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