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<0> well -- I mean if the benefit is to replace food stamps
<1> US-Male: EBT cards designated for food purchases have no cash value.
<2> Oregon started it
<3> but the cash is for like diapers and stuff
<0> if it's a benefit for your ex-husband's military pension, sure let them have cash
<1> JanetB: or a 40 of Olde English.
<4> Herzen, Israel has no choice, Iran has threatened their existance and with nukes could eliminate the Israeli state.
<0> but to replace food stamps, no they sh9ouldn't be able to
<2> Not all ATM processors honor the EBT either.
<4> And Israel wont go alone I dont think, we will be involved and hopefully some of europe
<2> some states think they are exempt from fees
<3> US-Male.. well some people get money, for rent.. electric, essentials...
<1> I think people underestimate the military logistics required for an Israeli strike on Iran. There's far more to it than striking one single site in Iraq, which is much much closer.
<5> FreeTrade, I agree
<0> JanetB: that would repalce welfare
<0> replace
<0> I think
<6> to anyone here who reads rss feeds on windows, what do you use? i've been using firefox's built in functionality but it ****s when it comes to adding new feeds and sorting the feeds
<1> Iran has actual air defenses that Iraq did not have. Plus, Israel has to fly all the way over Iraqi airspace to get there, meaning they need our tacit approval.
<3> US-Male... well it is a part of welfare, but instead of mailing out checks they just put it on the card
<0> right
<1> Plus Iran's nuclear program is spread over multiple sites, plus fighter jets would not be able to make it from Israel to Iran and back without refueling...
<6> people have been so focused on this "israel hasn't actually admitted to having nukes but we all know they have them" thing that noone has asked if they have icbms too
<7> FT, I think they are all going to get together and gang up on Iran, it's only going to take a day to put a major crimp in the weapons program.
<8> No *** and no Beer makes Iranians go crazy
<1> Much, much more complicated than flying from Israel to Iraq to hit one site and flying back.
<1> Also diplomatically thornier, for the reason stated above: Israel can't do it without our explicit approval since we control Iraqi air space. That makes it a very thorny diplomatic issue for us.
<9> windopain eh but people are less inclined to care if Israel has them, as they aren't likely to randomly use them against anyon who draws a comic about judiasm :P
<1> Bottom line, if any military action is taken against Iran, it will be taken by the U.S.
<6> KoBushi: yea, point being they may not need fighter jets to hit iran
<10> we have no interest in seeing the world brought to the brink of total destruction.... unless we cause it ourselves.
<11> forza IRAN!!!:o)
<1> windopain: we can be reasonably sure Israel has the means to deliver then to any place they think they need to deliver them to. Considering most of their likely targets are within a few hundred miles, Israel is probably not at all interested in ICBMs.
<12> yeah they have subs
<12> is what israel has
<7> forza?
<12> in the persian gulf right now
<13> "No TV and no beer makes Homer go something something." - Homer
<14> "Crazy?" - Marge
<13> "DON'T MIND IF I DO!!!" - Homer
<1> They're not interested in nuking China or Russia or Canada.
<12> but nobody wants nukes doing off
<6> DiscoTaco: again, point being, they may not need fighter jets
<1> windopain: to do what?
<10> unless its tactical nukes
<6> DiscoTaco: to take out iran's nuclear interests
<9> I think that Iran is being tottaly unreasonable in this endevour. They haven't even made any claims as to why they need to enrich the uranium themselves rather than purchase it from Russia. Jut that they must do it.
<7> eww, that can't be good
<15> biological weapons are worse then nukes...
<1> windopain: yeah, they probably will need them.
<10> heh
<9> TheTailor did you take a look at that Aptera prototype being built?
<15> WOTTT YE WAWNT!!!!
<10> corporate facism is worse than biological weapons and way more insidious
<15> Ewll we gawt is shpam and baked beans!
<7> KoBushi, well I saw one picture, the 3 wheeler?
<4> Abusive Domain or User
<6> DiscoTaco: i doubt it. they're leading the way when it comes to control systems nowdays.. heck.. the MTHEL project, they're working on more components than we are
<6> but again, everyone is still stuck on "well they haven't admitted to having nukes" that they haven't considered what they've been working on since they've had nukes
<16> howdy
<6> (so stuck on) that is
<17> all in all... you are just another... brick in the wall...
<17> [ we dont need no.... education.... we dont' need no ..... thought control.... no dark sarcasm in the cl***ic room...
<3> Gosh.. I look at the news and I am so glad I do not live in Detroit area anymore heheh
<15> hey Democrats.....leave those kidz alone!
<17> still one of the best albums of all time, IMHO
<6> the cl***icroom?
<17> cl*** room :P
<9> TheTailor yeah the 330mpg one
<6> thank you heh
<17> damn it, where is Swigert or Rusty when ya need a drinking buddy?
<6> JanetB: why's that? isn't bad in rochester hills
<3> windopain.. it is to cold!
<17> Kobushi: why, Iran needs peaceful nuclear powerplants, afterall, they have no natural resources that they can currently use for power plants
<6> JanetB: this winter has been SO warm ... we had no snow until yesterday
<1> swigert? drinking buddy??
<17> janet: heh, dont need no stinking news to be thankful I'm not living in detroit!
<18> politican mette reporter; fool meet damned fool. I am not sure which one I dispise more
<1> The guy's a teetotaller.
<19> I realize I'm several days off with this story, but I was curious if anyone here had seen it and if it's been discussed in the channel. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/29/AR2006012900642.html
<9> Lup|ne I agree... but what is wrong with getting thier uranium from Russia w/ a deplted uranium recycling program?
<17> Disco: hell yea.. i drink, and start quoting from Once Upon a Time in teh West
<9> depleted*
<17> Kobushi: I was being sarcastic :P
<6> granted, i'd hate to live in detroit city itself .. that'd just be brutal
<19> ack. wrong link
<3> windopain..... my inlaws have said the same thing
<19> hang on
<3> they all still live back in MI.. poor things..
<18> Katey my bias is strictly set by the 9 unknown men who channel my feelings to me via a b***et hound in Newark
<19> oh wait...that's the right one
<6> JanetB: it has been so ... weird.... it has still cost a bit to heat this winter but none of that feeling of shaking uncontrollably for 10 minutes while waiting for the car to warm up, etc
<19> pilgrim`, sounds like a solid system. :)
<18> exactly
<3> the only time I miss it is in december.... here it never seems like Christmas
<17> My uncle had an awesome house/estate near kalimazoo.. but its getting overrun by suburbia
<18> Katey its in the paper, therefore it is BS
<18> that is my new and ultra-accurate yardstick
<3> oh I used to run out and turn the car on.. then run back in the house heheh
<6> JanetB: heh yea i did that too... remote start is nice for that nowdays
<20> interesting:When presented with negative information about the candidates they liked, partisans of all stripes found ways to discount it, Westen said. When the unpalatable information was rejected, furthermore, the brain scans showed that volunteers gave themselves feel-good pats -- the scans showed that "reward centers" in volunteers' brains were activated.
<18> Lupine I had a nice brunette in Kalimazo long ago
<18> and no I wasn't there, I have witnesess
<3> windopain.. if I lived there still.. I would have remote start.. no dount
<18> Cry blame the sheep
<3> doubt
<6> JanetB: it snowed last night though and i've been tempted to go out and take a few photographs since it looks so nice
<17> now now, there are alot of good benefits to be said about cold weather.. such as a high ratio of nippledge among the women :-)
<15> JanetB wants to see Broke Back Mountain
<18> Lupine that be the udder truth
<17> Pilgrim: he has ~200acreas.. beautiful
<3> windopain.. that is one thing.. watching the snow fall.. was very relaxing
<18> I thoought the name was breech butt mountin
<17> Janet: yea, I think of ice racing!
<3> CryHavoc.. stop lying, you have been begging me to take you to see it, cause you are so afraid, people will see you and know what I know
<17> i not only do not mind driving in snow and ice, I *LOVE* it! I just hate all the OTHER yahoos out on the road
<3> hahahha Lup|ne
<15> haha JanetB
<6> JanetB: yeah... i always like the trees look after an ice storm too... i was hoping to get a few shots of those with my new camera this winter too, but things haven't looked very nice... i feel bad for ppl who make their money plowing, they're in trouble
<3> windopain.. well winter is not over yet :D
<15> I wonder if Broke Back Mountain is popular with priests.....
<18> Lupine e time I see a golk course I think: what a waste of a perfectly good target rangevery
<18> golf
<4> Cry see msg
<6> yeah, but almost halfway
<18> dang keyboard
<17> Janet: I would have taken Cry, but he's not speaking to me. I admitted that I shopped at the Salvation Army once
<6> Lup|ne: i prefer snow/ice to rain anyday
<6> driving-wise
<3> here in flag, they have had no snow this winter.. all the skiing slopes have been closed, bad for business
<1> windopain: the big losers are people up in the northern parts of Wisconsin and Michigan who rely on winter tourism to keep 'em afloat until the summer tourism season hits.
<17> pil: eh? dual purpose baby!!! :-) golfballs=great reactive targets
<10> JanetB, you have seen brokeduck mountain?
<21> good night everyone
<17> wasn't that ****duck mountain?
<3> FEMA.. no
<1> windopain: I remember being in northern Wisconsin one year in the dead of January. Not a flake of snow on the ground and all the tourist towns were flat-out deserted. It was kind of sad.
<6> DiscoTaco: nah, i used to live up north, still have family there.. tourism isn't going that bad this year.. they have snow... could be better, but not as bad as it has been in recent years
<17> Twobar starred in "bareback mountain".. a story about a man and his horse...
<10> ewwww
<18> this is a 12" iBook. it my thhum brushes the touchpad, with is too close to the letters, as I type, the cursor leaps to the center of the sentence. as I am a hunt/peck type, I do not see it till I look up and have just typed int he middle of everything else. VERY frustrating
<6> DiscoTaco: yeah, when they don't get it, it really ****s.. i worked at a hotel up there, one season we didn't have snow, you'd see occupancy go from 100% to 0% as people realized they couldn't snowmobile
<1> windopain: I participate in auto ice-racing. Every event this season from Green Bay south was cancelled. Pisses me off.
<17> pil: ah, shut up and just blame steve jobs personally for your problems
<18> Lupien I prefer cans and milk jugs and the occasional bowling pin
<6> DiscoTaco: ahh, they're having the dog-sled race in chippewa/mackinac county this weekend i believe
<18> Lupine oh I do.....its this Micky Mouse design
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