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<0> Freedom is hidden behind democracy which is hidden behind interest
<1> They would come door to door like the fuller brush man.
<2> FT why did they do that ? They had so many they could not use them ?
<3> Free the Dumb!
<1> Only they were selling foodstamps for cash
<4> i think we should start a petition for the DNC to officially change their party name from Democrats to Donkeys
<1> this was about 16 years ago.
<5> I love my Bank of America Visa
<6> Wow
<6> Living off the government is becoming high-tech!
<6> Up here I don't even know if food stamps exist
<1> US, the money in lieu of foodstamps you could buy drugs or alcohol.
<6> they just give you straight up cash
<4> Herzen you can get your bene's from any ATM Machine
<6> and lots of people spend it on booze and drugs
<2> oh
<2> ok
<2> FT: well the drugs, they could just trade the food stamps
<1> Say you are on WICK you get food stamps and free food from a distribution plave.
<1> So you many have plenty of food and want a little heroin to relax with.
<7> i refuse to file for disability benefits while bush is in office
<6> Pickle, do they have food stamps up here?
<1> Why while bush is in office ?
<1> That makes no sense.
<4> the VA tracked my dad down
<2> it might be they had so many food stamps from other transactions, they could not get rid of them
<1> Why should it matter who is in office /
<1> ?
<1> If you are truely disabled you will get them, if you are not you wont, but I hear it takes a long time. But then i have never applied.
<7> lol
<8> Herzen: No.
<2> I know that welfare was tightened in the 90's
<6> you think we should?
<2> I don't know if that includes food stamps
<6> instead of just straight up payouts
<1> Are you parapalegic ? Whats your disability ?
<2> but there are all kinds of government ***istance programs
<8> Herzen: Considering how food stamps are abused in the states I don't think it would make much difference, but yes, I'd rather see people getting those than cash.
<9> They live together, have a kid together, own 2 late-model pickup trucks, 1 Chevy Lumina and a 1974 Corvette. But they won't get married because then the mommy and baby stop getting public ***istance.
<9> If you can afford 4 cars, you can afford to feed your kid on your own goddamn dime.
<8> Herzen: But it will never happen, because that would be too "degrading".
<6> Pickle, on the 20th of the month
<6> the Liquor Store here is 100% Indians
<1> The only way to use food stamps I think is to force them to use an atm card which tracks what they buy...
<9> Makes me want to set 3 of their cars on fire.
<6> thats total abuse
<10> Pickle...yer friend roybgiv was back last night
<1> Oh wait, the ACLU would call that domestic espionage.
<8> CryHavoc: Feel free to ban that miserable fascist at your leisure.
<11> here they have similar to an ATM card for food stamps
<2> now the US gives a Government-issued debit card instead of food stamps
<12> FT: yep.. even thou it was working so well
<10> FT...I think all states are using digital foodstamps now
<9> Ack
<2> so nobody knows you are using a food-card and not a debit card
<9> forgot the first part of my post...
<6> Lup|ne, in 1987 when the IRS started asking for the Social Security information of dependants that people claimed they had, 7 million Children in the USA 'disappeared'
<10> the paper ones are kaput
<9> The idiots who live across the parking lot from me make the case for bringing back common-law marriage, or at least amending WIC to force paternity disclosure in order to get ***istance so they can send part of the bill to Daddy.
<1> I could make a small fortune by divorcing my wife and still live with her as a family.
<9> They live together, have a kid together, own 2 late-model pickup trucks, 1 Chevy Lumina and a 1974 Corvette. But they won't get married because then the mommy and baby stop getting public ***istance.
<8> I'm sick of that prick defending every fascist dictator just because he opposes the US. That's just anti-Americanism-by-extension.
<9> If you can afford 4 cars, you can afford to feed your kid on your own goddamn dime.
<12> Herzen: Yep
<2> but the denit card has the same restrictions as the food stamps, I believe
<2> debit
<1> Just change the legal cl***ification.
<2> no booze purchases
<9> (there, proper context now intact.)
<1> Stay m,arried in spirit but not by government.
<0> cash is king
<9> Pickle: which prick?
<8> CryHavoc: DStewart just bans him when he starts talking these days, doesn't even bother addressing his blather.
<12> FreeTrade if I wear this shirt at the next UCF "diversity day", do you think the ACLU would defend me? http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/diversitybk750.jpg
<8> Disco: roygbiv
<2> no booze on a foodstamp-card, and I don't know tehother restrictions
<9> ah
<1> I could take all my profits divide them in 2 and each of us would have lower income and tax
<1> brb
<9> Even DStewart gives him the heave-ho any more, and he has the patience to put up with just about anyone's stupid ****.
<11> the only thing you can buy on food stamps is food
<12> janet: but with the stamps, people would trade them for cash..
<11> anything consumable is ok.. anything not, you cna not buy
<13> janetb: i thought it was only nonprepared foods
<12> with a debit card with their name on it.. well, less able to do that
<11> Lup|ne. yeah I know thats why they switched to debit cards
<9> US-Male: You can only buy certain types of food with food stamps. Those that are basically nutritionally worthless are excluded. No candy bars, potato chips, etc.
<0> debt is an illusion
<10> Lup|ne...that was part of the welfare reform bill...
<12> I think in florida, you can buy "house hold necessities", such as toilet paper and the like thou
<1> US you cant sell a debit card though.. well I suppose you could.
<10> Paper food stamps are no more
<2> DiscoTaco oh ok -- well I ***ume those restrictions were transferred to the Debit cards that they now issue
<1> But you could require picture ID and a p***word which would at least help you..
<11> and they just keep the card, and the goverment adds to it every month
<2> and with debit cards, it is much harder to abuse
<12> Freetrade: ah.. but if you sell it, you not only lose that months, but all FUTURE months
<1> Besides you wouldnt be selling one months food you would have to give them your card.
<11> FT.. they do require ID
<1> and then what if they dont give it back ?
<12> FT: right.. hence, why it was so effective
<2> since I can't give you my debit card for an oz of weed .. how would I buy my food
<1> Janet, Now they do, they didnt used to.
<11> FT.. true
<0> we now need your finger-print
<11> and they can not give the card away, they have to keep the card
<2> stamps were not tied to an individual the way debit cards are -- and nobody will give up their one debit card for a single illegal transaction
<11> the goverment, just credits the same card
<2> I belive they keep that same card, like you keep your ATM card
<2> keep it for long periods
<2> and it is IDentified with their info
<9> US-Male: I would ***ume so as well. The major way in which moving from paper stamps to stored-value cards is that it's harder to transfer their value. The big issue with food stamp fraud is that people were selling them for a fraction of the face value. Not to mention manufacturing counterfeits.
<11> yeah.. as long as you are on the food stamp progam, you keep that card
<1> Anyone started a pool yet ?
<2> DiscoTaco yeah
<1> Estimating the time before military action against Iran ?
<10> Disco...damn right
<9> US-Male: now the only way to transfer the value of a food stamp ATM card is to surrender the card itself, and now you have access to NONE of its value.
<2> yeah that's unlikely
<10> FT...we are not gonna touch Iran
<4> I got ten on Pittsburg with the lil cutey at the C Store
<2> not many people will be willing to do that
<1> Cry, If they do what we say
<11> we are not going into Iran
<10> Iran would truly be a quagmire...
<4> US-Male that is why you take your EBT card to the ATM and get CASH
<10> 4 times Iraqs population...and a lot more males of fighting age
<14> well of course not, unless there is a draft
<1> I predict hmm One year at the very latest they are militarily confronted and no sooner than 6 months.
<2> whats an EBT card
<4> Electronic Benefit Transaction
<11> it will have to be eurpoe that stops iran
<2> oh that's the foodstamp card ?
<4> ayup
<5> what we should do is smuggle Pornography and Alcohol into Iran
<2> DarthBurg: they can get cash ??
<9> US-Male: basically, ATM food stamps.
<4> some EBT's have cash value, some do not.
<1> That is of course predicated on the idea that Iran will not comply with any international or multilateral diplomacy
<4> US-Male depends on their benefit level
<4> but yes, they can get CASH
<2> cash should obviously not be allowed on that card -- otherwise, no poin in having it
<2> point
<6> FreeTrade, they won't
<6> I gurantee it
<5> and Ipod's, lots of Ipods should be smuggled into Iran
<11> US-Male.. some people get a cash benifit
<4> the paperwork for the state drops by 40%
<11> they get food stamps and cash
<2> well -- I mean if the benefit is to replace food stamps
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