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Comments:
<0> so yeah.. poor europe
<0> they're walkin on a tight rope
<1> US: I agree, it's a tactical question, not a matter of principle for me
<2> im a prophet and psychic...anyhow...getting ready for all this crap
<3> she has a "funny feeling" about the super bowl.
<0> cause you either for or against
<4> CH: bigtime; but either way, totally inappropriate reaction
<1> rcane: the whackos do
<5> prophet,...psychic....lol
<1> but not most christians
<2> well i get messages...like tons of ppl do sometimes theyre true sometimes they're not..
<2> cry...everyone is psychic...
<0> here what i say.. Europe should whoop Iran's ***
<2> yawn
<1> but I see polarization happening soon ... the average muslim is going to have to decide soon
<6> You know, placing the blame with these very timid cartoons, is the same as blaming a woman for her rape, because she showed her earlobes
<3> yeah, they're called guesses by most people.
<7> OcDoc: yeah if I were editor I might make a closer review in the future --- but *never* give in publicly
<2> al my dreams tell me what's gonna happen anyway
<7> I would still publish cartoons that offend people, that is what cartoons *do*
<6> it is the media in these arab countries that are fanning the flames, more than the danish newspaper
<2> yes of course going nuts over cartoons is ridiculous but the world is ntus anyway what do u expect
<7> they make fun of something
<0> them muslim will quiet down..if Europe send in troops and give Iran an *** whooopin
<4> Oc: did you see the NYTimes magazine piece on the muslims of sweden today/
<8> well personally.. I don't see why muslims are so touchy
<6> US: naw, the cartoon is not the one who offends, it is the readers who are offended
<4> it was very interesting and well written
<2> muslims will quite down..lol....yeah right...
<7> Lup|ne true, the cartoon is not at fault
<0> timur i did..i love those ny times articles
<6> janet: oh, freud would have a field day with their insecurities
<1> USMale: no, the editors did it on purpose to make a POINT of principle
<0> it's fascinating
<2> msulims are very p***ionate about their religion and beliefs..
<1> they KNEW it would provoke riots
<2> a little too p***ionate
<1> Timur: no I haven't seen that one
<7> now -- I also support anyone's right to a boycott. If your customer is pissed off, he won;'t buy from you.
<6> In any event, it is hypocracy. The arab papers continually post far-far worse cartoons about bush, america, christians, jews, the EU etc
<0> so ar ethe puritan..they're pretty p***ionate too
<2> except violence isn't p***ion it's just violence
<8> if a cartoon provokes riots.. then they need some serious mental help
<4> Oc: would you like a link?
<4> Plumm: really?
<6> janet: right, they are subhuman
<2> why is everyone so mad over that..
<1> Timur: I think the swedish turks I met were quite civilized
<7> OcDoc: maybe some of the later ones they knew
<0> sweden is one of those most generous country in the western world
<1> Timur: yes please
<2> bush invaded iraq.. and killed thousands of people....why is burning down an emb***y such a big a ss deal
<7> but, in general I would say the one who is "provoked" is almost always at fault
<0> yes evil bush jr
<0> Saddamm is graet
<1> USMale: no the originals were carefully thought out and they decided to go ahead and risk provocation rather than self-censor
<8> did you heard a former Iraqi General said the WMD went to syria?
<2> burning down an emb***y over a cartoon is completely asinine, but the world is nuts so what do u expect...it's not surprising at a ll
<1> four months ago
<9> jennie-: Great strawman, keep it up
<8> he helped move it
<0> i like how bush pronounce "al quaeda"
<0> as al kaida
<7> "he provoked me" isn't generally a legal defense for battery -- despite the old existence of things like "fighting words"
<4> Oc: most of the Muslims in the article weren't Turks, afaik - mostly Arabs, and some Kurds and Bosniaks
<2> no its funny ppl almost seem to feel guilty about it.. like...the responses are humorous...
<7> I am not sure if "fighting words" still exist in US law
<1> USMale: it's a mitigating factor in sentencing, not in guilt or innocense
<4> Oc: sec
<0> i realize bush's speech are filled with comic book words like "evil doers" "haters"
<1> Timur: I see
<10> umm
<4> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/05/magazine/05muslims.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
<10> comic book words?
<9> Plumm: Nah that's from the last Enimem album
<11> Looks like the wikipedia nerds have been having fun with the cartoon issue... people keep taking the images off and others keep putting them back up... tug o' war over 'anybody can edit' media.
<0> i bet Bush reads a lot of Captain America comic book
<1> axis of evil
<1> Timur: ty
<12> Plumm, where is the word 'hater' in one of Bush's speeches?
<4> yw./ :)
<0> after 911..
<0> hater came up
<6> OcDoc: in terms of responsibility, the cartoonist may have 0.01%.. the vast majority of the responsibility for their actions are.. themselves.
<13> Wikipedia's a good resource to get info about the spangled dung beetle, but useless for getting info on controversial topics.
<10> u guys are crazy
<1> Lupine: well, I dislike provoking people in general ... we almost all of us have our hot buttons
<11> Over the past few days there have been thousands of edits on the cartoon issue alone.
<0> i'm not a fan of captain america, i'm a fan of the hulk
<14> what was the cartoon about
<0> i think captain america had steroids serum
<10> i didnt even know wikipedia did current day issues
<4> I think wiki *can* be reasonably informative and balanced on controversial issues
<6> OcDoc: but this is so laughable.. that the entire world is beholden to the ignorance of a few subhumans?
<7> yeah but that's like saying a drunk airline pilot "can be" able to land a plane safely =)
<15> w00t
<6> I mean jesus, should we all dress our women up head to toe, as to not send them into riots?
<15> My realtor just called
<7> he might, but I'm not trusting it
<11> Wiki is like getting info from a buddy that seems to know everything, but is sometimes wrong or extremely biased.
<15> looks like we've hammered out all the last little negotiating details
<1> Timur: Wiki is good starting place for info, but I wouldn't trust it without double checking
<12> Katey-, moving?
<0> i've seen some algerian women go crazy, they jsut the same as them crazy middle easter muslim
<15> TheTailor, yeah
<15> buying a house
<12> Katey-, where to?
<6> katey: The previous buyer on my home tried all those games.. we ended up keeping his $45k deposit :-)
<12> oh
<12> Good!
<15> a couple of miles away from where we are now
<1> Katey: congrats
<11> I like wiki alot... but I wouldn't bet the farm that the info is 100% accurate.
<15> OcDoc, gracias!
<0> wiki is cool
<6> Well, I would think wiki would be more interesting as a study of m***-mob establishing "truth"
<12> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
<0> i like the historical facts on wiki
<11> I might use it to get a general idea about a topic... but if I was writing a report, I'd want reputable sources.
<15> Glock21, yeah
<15> of course
<15> I can't imagine a professor accepting only wiki as a source
<7> as a topic becomes more controversial, the chances of someone "editing" it in a biased way goes up
<16> many of the articles cite reputable sources...
<6> plumm: have to be careful.. for example, Wiki allowed democratic house members remove all un-favorable historical facts about their members.
<4> Oc: I tend to agree, I mostly check its stance on such issues after being informed otherwise, and then verifying
<16> why cite an encyclopedia at all?
<11> There is a wealth of knowledge on it though... and it's fun to surf.
<7> it goes to the question of motivation
<16> it's general knowledge stuff.
<0> oh..i dont' read about that..i like the chinese history on wiki
<6> glock: yea, that is more what I do with it
<17> hi all :)
<0> like the Chin dynasty is fascinating
<17> Katey why the congrats? Did you get the house?
<12> It's HER!
<8> hi CometBaby
<17> hey TT :)
<17> janet :))
<18> hello
<17> hi guest :)
<0> the french indian war is intersting too
<15> CometBaby, yeah. looks like it
<7> there's very little motivation to edit a Wiki article on the wheat production of Minnesota -- or none I am aware of
<17> WooWoo!
<7> but large motivation to edit controversial things
<17> congrats .. how exciting :)
<15> CometBaby, the bank needs to do their appraisal
<15> but I don't expect any problems there
<17> tell us about it
<17> whats it like?
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