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<0> Crispy|, yes, I early on grew away from the church.
<1> TheTailor, that is not the point. but okay.
<2> God
<2> Whiners
<1> Crispy then we have different definitions.
<2> Hold their hand for afew minutes
<2> Whats the big ****ing deal?
<3> that bother ms
<2> Its your FAMILY
<0> salstress, it wasn't thrown in my face.
<1> I do. I didn't complain about that did I?
<4> Im atheist...it works for me.
<2> If you're that touchy about being Athiest
<2> You should move to Norway
<5> salstress is one of those haters
<1> okay, what do you consider "thrown in your face?"
<2> Or somewhere more secular
<0> FeeSimple, that's fine, *** long as you keep it to yourself.
<4> but im not a strong atheist...
<1> or using MY words "shoved in your face"
<0> as even
<4> i would be retarded to say "i know."
<4> I am as unsure about God existing as the flying spaghetti monster :)
<6> TheTailor: Yeah, same here. I believe there is a God, but I don't go to church celebrating it because it's between me and god, and if God really has a problem and sends me to hell to go to church, than I'd rather go to hell than believe in an uncaring person.
<4> always room to be wrong :)
<1> describe a situation where you feel someone else's beliefs would be shoved in your face
<0> I consider people knocking on my door and giveing me advice and literature about their form of religion "throwing it in my face".
<4> hmmmm, i like Mormons at the door
<7> WHat about crusades? Or William of Orange and king James they fought over two kinds of christianity.
<6> salstress: As to your previous situation.
<1> you could simply not answer the door couldn't you?
<4> we have great talks.
<3> so you take an rule like emminent domain, take people homes so a developer can come in and put up condominiums for personal profit simple because it raises the tax value of the land.
<0> Crispy|, God is all forgiving, I don't believe there is a Hell.
<1> that is less invasive to your privacy than the family hand holding thing
<5> Peace2, the entire bible is "divine"
<6> salstress: It's not a matter of shoving it in their face if you said "be thankful and there is not mythical god in heaven" that's a matter of they'd just be pissed cause you're the only one.
<6> And you're going against the majority.
<7> Aren't christians supposed to go to church and not work one day a week?
<1> Crispy, you're not following what I am saying. I don't think I want to continue the discussion with you.
<8> 416, not the copyright page ;-)
<6> It's the same reason most people are against gay marriage and politicians who try to legalize it are stupid.
<5> hahaha 3Joe!
<6> salstress: I understand what you are saying, perfectly.
<4> Biblical scholarship has turned into: "Whatever is discovered through secular sources is historically accurate" while the rest is suspect.
<7> Aren't they supposed to confess to god or to a priest who is a conduit to god?
<5> salstress is a dumb ***
<6> And that is not shoving it in someone's face.
<4> no one trusts the Bible as a primary source anymore.
<5> seriously, the dude hasn't got a clue
<4> (at least in the academy)
<6> salstress: By that constitute, ANYTHING public is shoving it in someone's face.
<1> lol
<9> s1ntient depends on which sect they are part of
<5> shall i bring out the story where Jesus healed the sick on the sabath?
<5> or the one where he saved a donkey from the well?
<3> all that confessing to a priest stuff is crap.
<6> Anyone raying is public, by your logic, would be considered shoving it in someone's face.
<7> Depends hmmm.
<0> Rusty, sure, if you want to hear a 'story'.
<7> So what are you even argueing?
<4> In a free country people should be allowed to come to your door and preach.
<4> You are simply allowed to shut it swiftly.
<9> s1ntient ... I haven't argued anything, just answered your question
<3> thats just another way "The Man" wants you dependent on "his" infrastructure.
<9> :)
<10> some of the rhetoric of president bush shoves it in the face
<0> FeeSimple, that's called disturbing the peace.
<6> Exactly.
<4> thetailor: no it is not.
<6> There is nothing in this country that you can't close yourself out from.
<5> TheTailor, eventually you will catch on to salstresses game
<0> FeeSimple, if we want to know, we'll do research.
<0> FeeSimple, my door is PRIVATE property.
<5> if he can't debate an issue he attacks the person
<9> FeeSimple yeah I don't have any problem with that
<4> TheTailor: Unfortunately, when done with a certain cordiality, it is not disturbing the peace.
<4> thetailor: and as your property, you are allowed to ask them to leave.
<9> TheTailor so put up "No Tressp***ing" signs
<7> That is what TheTailor does so it seems normal to him.
<4> Yes, no tresp***ing signs would be appropriate.
<0> FeeSimple, again, my door is PRIVATE property, if I want to learn their religion, I'll go to their church, then they can tell me all about it.
<3> man, some of the chicks that do the news on Telemundo are almost pornographic lookin.
<3> and they show way more leg too
<7> Christianity has tenets of prostelytizing.
<5> hahaha Fema
<7> They believe that is how they are being a good christian.
<4> the common law has made it clear that tresp***ing charges do not stick as long as a person leave upon request, especially in residential areas
<6> FEMA: Latin women are the best.
<9> FeeSimple unless a sign is posted
<4> kobushi: even when a sign is posted.
<9> FeeSimple that is correct if there is no sign, but not if there is a sign
<0> KoBushi, no tressp***ing signs aren't mandatory, you know it's not YOUR property when you walk to the door.
<4> ive never seen a 1st instance case of civil liability
<9> FeeSimple as the sign IS considered a request not to come onto the property unless invited
<4> for a residential tresp*** (even with no solicit signs)
<9> FeeSimple look in Ohio and in TN then
<3> hehe thats why i keep a .22 caliber derringer with 5 shells of magnum ratsho in my pocket at all times.
<5> a Roman Catholic priest was killed in Turkey
<9> TheTailor yeah, but w/o a sign it isn't tressp***ing until they are asked to leave
<5> so it begins
<4> KoBushi: youd have to show me...ive heard of no instance of liability.
<1> Tim Russert opening line: "are the republicans in trouble?"
<3> i'm only gonna tell em once to gtf off my property
<5> he was killed in the protests over the Mohammed crap
<6> FEMA: My rule is you keep a 12 gauge, and if fter you cock your shotgun they aren't out of the house, you better get the **** out of there cause they have something bigger.
<6> after*
<4> Kobushi: not true, it is tresp***ing, but tresp*** has never been construed as a black/white phenomenon
<4> it has to be substantial...it is not a procedural issue
<0> KoBushi, the point is, should religion me pushed on people, the answer is NO.
<4> in the u.s. or in Canada
<4> (the test is what is reasonable in the course of owning property in a residential area)
<4> people come to your door.
<4> if you lived in the remote boonies and had your entire area fenced off, that's a different story
<5> i don't think telling others about "religion" is pushing it on others
<6> Rofl.
<6> I love it.
<3> but Crispy, a 12 guage is pretty lethal. a court will find a revolver loaded with ratshot to be "less than lethal."
<4> you pull a gun when someone comes to your door, and they can sue you
<9> TheTailor I agree... however since it is not the government doing or endorsing the religious pushing, it's not against your rights
<4> and the difference is they would win
<4> they can sue you for ***ault
<9> TheTailor it is well within thie rights of free speach to attempt to convince as many people as they can
<6> "These muslims were out here trying to defend the image of their prophet Mohummad"...with random acts of violence! Makes sense...
<9> thier*
<4> countersue with tresp*** and youd lose.
<0> FeeSimple, they shouldn't be bringing religion to your door, there are plenty of churches to conduct that learning process.
<3> but not ***fault with a deadly weapon
<7> Pulling a gun is a threatening act I think people could defend themselves.
<5> EXACTLY Kobushi
<9> TheTailor of course, you also have the right to not allow people on your property that you don't want there
<4> thetailor: i guess, i agree with you normatively, but that certainly is not the law.
<6> Seriously, I wish we could just shoot every one of those muslims that are destroying all this crap.
<6> But if we do, they get pissed off, and we cause more trouble.
<6> So we have to let them.
<9> FeeSimple wrong, in some states tressp***ing is enough to warrant threat of force
<0> FeeSimple, it's not a matter of law
<11> if we do, then they will bomb us
<7> You know what I hate the people that fire into the air.
<9> tresp***ing*
<7> In crowded streets.
<6> Peace2: Exactly.
<11> firing into the air in crowded areas is a rather stupid thing to do
<7> That is attempted indescretionary murder I think.
<4> KoBushi: in the context of coming to someone's door...it is rarely enough.
<0> FeeSimple, it's a matter of right and wrong, you don't 'push' religion on people.
<7> Or reckless endangerment.
<9> FeeSimple not if signs are posted
<7> Well I don't even know if they have those laws in otherr countries.
<4> thetailor: that has to be balanced by people's freedom to express their beliefs, including the belief that you are required to believe.
<4> kobushi: actually ive read cases where signs were not enough
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