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<0> timothy al-qaeda's not a problem... hizbollah may be
<1> unfounded : blah
<0> gopp these guys were so cocky they didn't think about the occupation at all
<2> gopp you know what i mean?
<3> unfounded and if you supported the war, what was your soultiono for iraq as a monday moring quater back
<2> Timm is here
<1> unfounded : Propaganda is still is a weapon.
<0> gopp waaaay more troops at the outset
<2> the most logical people on the channel
<0> shoot ****ing anyone who loots
<2> hahahahhaa
<4> bugs bunny is a good reason to die
<0> and be ready for counterinsurgency from day 1
<2> dude
<5> propoganda is serving its purpose on the chessboard
<3> unfounded as a monday moring quaterback
<5> but it is not the entire board
<2> I would kick your *** over Bugfs Bunny
<3> unfounded way more troops so way more troops being dead
<0> they weren't planning for that, they put all their planning into the fast part of the war
<3> that was and is dumb idea
<0> gopp well that could be true
<2> Bugs Bunny is one of the best GODS on earth
<3> you don't send all or lots of troops at first
<0> gopp but the memos that come out
<3> that not correct
<4> But....are they FRIENDLY Bullwinkle?
<0> they're not even worried about counterinsurgency
<3> what memos
<3> people write memos all the time
<6> paul bremer, the man who led the reconstruction efforts in iraq, said that they simply didn't expect a large scale insurgancy.
<0> if i saw a failed counterinsurgency strategy that would be one thing
<1> William the Conquerer one of the biggest Warlords in Britian was a smart warrior so was King John.
<3> I bet thier people in the statedeparment who didn't agree going to iraq
<0> it's army doctrine too, it's not all the political people's fault
<3> so they wrote memos
<0> gopp you're like a brick wall
<3> unfounded k I see your point
<5> America has had no smart warriors...we just conquer like the borg
<0> you just contradict every step of everything i say
<3> some wrote a memo
<3> unfounded no you may be right
<3> but
<3> I am saying they didn't go by a memo
<3> they went by gut, and milltary logical
<1> gopp : lightened up please.
<0> i'm saying from everything i can see they were completely blinded by the insurgency
<4> we take away their native culture and give them McDonalds and Coca Cola
<0> they had no idea
<0> an insurgency would happen
<2> AndyGale????
<3> I don't think the milltary in the state deparment will allow a poltical figure be it bush or kerry get away with making the milltary look like fools
<4> but at least we leave behind a few Wal Marts
<0> from the way they fought the first year of the war
<2> Patton wasn't smart?
<5> well liberals made the borg bad
<5> democracy=borg to a liberal
<3> I don't think the milltary in the state deparment will allow a poltical figure be it bush or kerry get away with making the milltary look like fools unfounded
<0> well the bush cabinet ignored the state dept who had some good stuff to say
<0> they had a really good handle on the makeup of iraq politically
<3> unfounded like what stuff
<0> that the military doesn't have and shouldn't have
<3> unfounded what do you mean by "good"
<0> the military just blows **** up
<0> i mean "any" to be frank
<3> and it worked
<2> eisnehower wasn't smart/
<0> looking at the first year of the occupation
<3> bombing them was a smart idea
<2> Grant and Lee?
<0> yeah the military did great at blowing **** up
<2> no smarts there
<0> they did the mission set forth for them pretty wello
<0> just nobody planned for after they finish the high profile war
<6> BREMER: You know Ive thought about that as I looked back a lot, because we really didnt see the insurgency coming. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10739597/
<2> AndyGale America has had no smart warriors..
<3> unfounded they are plaing it know
<3> unfounded so they are planing it know
<0> well yeah but i mean
<3> you can't tell the future of a war
<2> hahaha
<3> but I guess you may say they had a small blunder
<0> if i was taking a nation to war and getting thousands of people killed, i'd at least make an attempt to plan
<3> in the end
<1> gopp : tell that to the NSA and NSC.
<0> some of the stuff we faced in year one was dead obvious
<0> and it set us back 2
<3> unfounded but half our troops level will be gone
<0> didn't ruin the mission
<0> yeah
<3> in this year
<3> to come
<2> the last 3 wars have been based on AMERICAN strategy
<0> not quite half, maybe half by the end of the year
<0> if all goes well
<3> we are leaving iraq pretty soon
<0> we'll be down to what 80-90
<0> out of 160 now
<5> 426 you make a point of people in history but dont understand my point of making a point
<0> 140 now
<3> not half but large precent
<0> 160 a couple weeks ago
<0> yeah
<5> thats not my problem
<0> almost half
<3> unfounded that good
<0> if all goes well and that's by december
<0> yeah
<2> Andy
<3> unfounded that is iraq had had two great election
<2> seriously
<0> yeah i like how the last one turned out
<3> unfounded yes we may have blunder a litte
<0> and they're doing a good job now of carrots and sticks with the various parties
<2> make a point quick so i can blow that point out of the water
<3> but that occurs in all wars
<0> telling them no, don't put a SCIRI person at interior
<3> that OH k proganda is good
<0> and the kurds are behaving because they're smart
<3> it worked in world war 2 and working know
<0> the kurds are gonna get so hooked up
<5> 426 you blew me out of the water but its quite to late that conversation was over along time ago scroll up and you will understand what i mean
<0> eventually
<2> is it ok if i take off my shoes
<0> they're compromising now
<2> so i can relax?
<7> sounds like everone in here tonight is higher than a kite
<2> and then i can give full accounting to your words and meaning Mister Andygale
<7> the incoherence of this convo is amazing
<3> unfounded if they put you to control the aftermath of iraq war, what would you do if bush hired you and only you to control iraq
<5> i make a point and this person sticks to me like glue on it
<1> unfounded : blah blah blah stop blowing **** out of your Upper Hindquarters.
<5> hes focused on destroying me...hes outmanned already
<5> and hes late
<5> i speak for the swift
<1> AndyGale : you speak for nobody. Unless you are the rich.
<7> bizarre
<2> my AndyGale you said this at (00:44) AndyGale America has had no smart warriors.
<2> it is now 11 minutes later
<2> and i have been calling for you to explain yourself for the last 11 minutes
<5> sorry bout ur luck timmy
<2> so i would suggest you explain yourself very quickly
<2> it is VERY relevant
<5> hemi its not relevant when you are playing devils advocate
<2> i have asked through this 11 minute time frame for you to give an accounting of yourself
<5> so please unglue urself from me and let me do what I do best
<2> if you can not
<2> than concede defeat
<5> soar above ur head
<2> and stfu
<2> otherwise
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