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<0> but logistics are a lot of troops and then you have to protect them
<1> unfounded we have nearly 250,000 land active
<0> in combat roles?
<1> yes
<0> or in combat divisions
<1> rolls
<0> i dunno the difference, not military
<0> but yeah that's a good number of troops active
<1> marines , navy, army, we have that number and then some
<0> but it's nowhere close to full mobilization
<0> we had a million in WWI
<2> i think the us public schools should start teaching islam to appease the angry idiots
<1> unfounded with a DRAFT
<1> hehhe
<1> BIG difference
<1> ww2 and so fourth we had a draft
<1> ven in WW1
<0> yeah
<0> that's what i was saying
<1> and in some cases even the civil war
<0> in the time it would take to draft and train and produce equipment
<0> would take a year at least
<1> hence the riots of NYC during 1864
<0> yeah there was absolutely a draft in the north in the civil war
<1> nah
<0> and rich people could buy out of it for a few hundred bucks
<1> there would be no "armored suits"
<1> we would go in there blood and guts
<0> well yeah you still need to ship them all to wherever
<1> heh
<2> advocate nukes then
<0> and have things for them to ride around in
<1> shipping is easy
<0> APCs or whatever
<0> even if you don't care about their lives
<0> you need to mechanize them
<1> men take towns Unfounded
<2> people don't ride on missles
<0> if you're gonna get anything done
<1> not APCS
<3> cometbaby: i'm requesting that you replace the topic back to what it was in early-to-mid 2004, which was a statement against ad hominien attacks and for rational debate, and a link to the ircpolitics.org website--- instead of a daily headline of the ops' right wing agenda. just a request that i'd like you guys with the @'s to consider.
<0> yeah absolutely
<0> but they gotta get around the men
<1> no
<1> you TAKE towns
<1> war ****s
<1> you kill the ****ers
<1> innocents or not
<2> lots of things ****
<0> ok yeah but on an offensive or whatever after you finish one place you need to get in an APC and drive to the next one
<0> yeah war does **** though
<1> "ohh i don't REALLY suppirt bin laden"
<1> I only fed him
<1> heh
<0> i think everyone should read all quiet on the western front
<1> **** that
<1> stop playing friendly with these bastards
<1> time has come to **** these dudes up
<0> yeah we're settling into a long war here
<1> nope
<2> too bad colinization is no longer an option
<1> no need for long war
<1> just decisive
<0> i actually buy the new report out of the pentagon
<4> oh yea...the war in iraq is the bottom of the iceberg
<1> put a foot in their ***es
<0> rumsfeld's a slow learner but he is a learner
<1> yes its all bush's fault
<0> 426 no because the goals of our wars now are to eliminate terrorist hiding places
<1> making war in iraq
<0> if you just blow the **** out of the place
<1> yeap THATS what it is
<0> it's still a terrorist hiding place
<5> unfounded : Rumsfeld is a faster learner than you.
<0> probably more than it was before
<4> yea all bush had to do was stay out of it
<4> after 9.11
<1> unfounded no matter how you look at it its genocide
<1> but the thing is this
<0> timothy no, i had a better handle on how this was going to turn out than him and i've never served a day in uniform in my life
<4> the united states attacked the core first
<0> of course neither has he
<4> whether mishandled or not
<2> genocide?
<4> it was a very smart move
<5> unfounded : bull****.
<0> but this was obviously gonna have a huge counterinsurgency effort
<6> what is this about a cartoon
<6> and why the rage
<1> is it genocide when an entire population thinks that they should kill you?
<6> I didn't capture the news today
<6> where the cartoon
<1> i don't see that as genocide
<6> Mahmoud Zahar, leader of the militant Palestinian group Hamas, told the Italian daily Il Giornale the cartoonists should be punished by death.
<1> i see that as "**** you, ***holes you're ****ed"
<1> DIE!
<0> i clearly remember saying all the crazies from the whole region are gonna come, hide among the population, and mess with us
<5> unfounded : please go gag yourself and stop reading conspiracy fantasies that your Over Lords give to you in your dreams.
<0> how could rumsfeld not have seen that coming?
<0> timothy good god
<6> unfounded see what comming
<4> war has founded and molded our presence
<6> unfounded what are you speaking of
<0> the insurgency
<0> in iraq
<4> therefore it is useful
<1> eliminating those that would kill you is not murder or genocide
<6> wtf
<0> how could you have been blindsided by that
<4> i say we did a good thing
<6> unfounded thier insurgerncy in many wars
<1> it is justfied
<7> War in a grand scale is inconcievable in the world today. The might that can be brought to bear by the great powers makes the thought of war totally impossible" -that was a British diplomat in 1914 about 2 weeks before Franz Ferdinand came into Givrillo Princip's sites
<6> unfounded we are still germanyt
<0> yeah exactly gopp
<6> we got troops in germany
<6> so what the problem
<0> yeah i'm for the iraq war
<8> no, it's still murder or genocide, but its 'not as bad'
<0> and germany's irrelevant
<6> unfounded cool
<4> me3
<0> the difference between the 2 is troops aren't getting killed in germany
<6> unfounded what is this cartoon that all over drudge
<4> was a splendid idea
<6> any her have a copy
<0> i mean who cares about germany
<0> anyways
<0> rumsfeld is a ****ing idiot
<0> for not seeing the insurgency coming
<1> sorry but the majority of people in here are stupid have no clue
<0> bush too
<6> unfounded how so
<0> wtf how do you invade a country and not think about that
<6> unfounded I dissagree bush is far
<6> unfounded you never will know the outcome to wars
<1> the majority of the mind set in here is "Here when you bust in my house "here is a sandwich"
<0> what do you mean how so this is a region where people march and shout death to america regularly
<1> "I willl even make you one!"
<6> unfounded and when you have milltary people trying to stop insurgents who dress like the people
<0> and we think it's gonna be a cakewalk setting up a gov't there?
<6> I mean come on
<5> unfounded : the Insurgency is a just a small part of Iraq. Wait till you get Hezbollah and Al-Qaida saying we are the Terrorist Borg and Resistance is Futile!!
<1> **** THAT!
<7> war is a grand maddness I think that one was the lord of the admirlty in WWI. ie Churchill
<4> war has no outcome obviously...all it does it buy time
<1> its time to start shooting these bastards
<6> unfounded who said it was cakewalk
<6> unfounded are you making stuff UP
<6> unfounded who said cakewalk
<0> timothy al-qaeda's not a problem... hizbollah may be
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