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<0> bbl
<1> panini, the Qur'an like every other holy book (almost anyway) contradicts the **** out of it self.
<2> as i said the other day, you guys want to solve this ****? seriously???
<3> sysRPL: How many do you know?
<4> suicide bombing, etc to upset westerners.. westerners have FINALLY found a way to upset muslims.. and it isn't going to stop anytime soon
<1> I can think of no religion with a holy book, where anyone could be said to be "truely following" the book.
<2> invite Ahmadinejad on a space shuttle ride to the International Space station
<5> P-O: how many muslims do you know that live in iran?
<2> show him a picture of the earth from space
<6> P_O - Says you!
<1> sysRPL, none, but I know a few that used to.
<7> first of all, if you're not willing to kill for allah you cannot claim to be a true muslim
<0> are aussies westerners?
<4> i mean... look at the number of new cartoons in the last few days ALONE! look at the number that were just posted in this room lol
<1> Yankee27, in a way.
<2> panini thats bull****
<4> er channel even :)
<2> don't give me that ****
<1> Yankee27, they're culturally of european descent.
<1> Except for the aboriginals.
<7> `426Hemi: nope, it's fact
<0> yeah
<8> Danes are pretty anxious, terror threats have been launched, but the mood is predominantly defiant, and people consider the case an eye-opener.
<7> allah requires soldiers
<9> the radical insane muslims must continue to show the scum that they are so that the normal muslims will turn on them and oust them from their religion. there must be islamic reform.
<1> Anyway, I've read the first 100-150 pages of my Qur'an translation.
<2> panini, i beg you to LISTEN to the old recordings of War of the Worlds
<7> `426Hemi: i have
<1> And a lot of what you see there, is that Christians and Jews and (I believe Samarians) are your brothers
<1> and that you shouldn't hurt a brother
<2> and the news reports of all the american people freaking out because they actually thought that we were being invaded by martians
<1> but then there are other parts of the Qur'an that are totally different than that.
<2> this is NO different
<7> `426Hemi: but i have to point out to you, muslims are NOT aliens from outer space
<10> P_O ***y isnt necessarily a good adjective for a system of thought :)
<1> And of course which side gets quoted depends on your original bias in the first place more than anything.
<10> p-o i mean positive adjective not good
<2> because people are susceptble in their sensibility
<1> redfish, sure it is :P
<8> salstress the normal moderate muslums are demanding the heads of cartoonist while living in the west
<9> "Allah Akbar!" God is Great for me burning an emb***y over some cartoons.
<9> right
<4> i remember hearing about the war of the worlds freak out.. what is no different
<4> hearing about true things?
<9> deinmere, where have you seen that
<2> panini, i have to point out to you that people are people, they are subject to the same psychological bull**** as we were during that time
<8> londong today
<2> and still are
<8> london
<10> p_o, when something is made '***y' its made to look appealing. thats why you hear people say intelligence reports were '***ed up' and why advertising makes bad products '***y'
<8> http://www.ixsys.com/daveb/2006/02/pictures-are-worth-thousand-words.html
<9> deinmere, those are not the normal ones
<8> enjoy
<1> redfish, I know.
<2> get what i am saying?
<1> Buddhism is the ultimate example of anti-*** too.
<1> But, I don't care
<1> I call things that I like ***y
<1> so it's ***y.
<1> ;x
<2> these people are acting out on a psychological basis
<4> ****, i was stalked a week ago... it's amazing how different you start thinking and acting when you get into potentially dangerous situations
<8> these people are sayng you dont believe in allah then you must die
<2> you have people like Muqtada Al Sadr who is a murderer leading these ****ers
<9> deinmere, they are the psychotic branch of that religion.
<0> \]
<2> you have people like Bin Laden and Al Zahwahiri leadings these people
<9> they are not the normal ones
<2> and they aren't dumb ***es
<1> You know, you guys talking really makes me want a saltine
<1> and I don't know why.
<2> they know the psychological profile of their religion
<8> there seems to be alot of em lately in europe
<2> they know how to PUSH the buttons
<4> salstress: are you SURE that there are more normal ones than non normal (per your nomenclature)
<10> P_O same thing :) you like it because it sounds appealing. thre are so many problems with buddhism
<2> the best way to show them that they are wrong/
<2> is to show them a power greater than their god
<4> salstress: that's what i heard a middle easterner saying last night is that the koran DOES **** on jews, it does encourage violence.. have you read it ?
<1> redfish, actually I like it because by the time I knew anything of detail about buddhism, it shared much with how I already think.
<9> no, windopain, I am not sure.
<8> how can these protesters in lodon enjoy our freedoms and then protest againt them
<1> redfish, what are your problems with buddhism?
<4> me either
<2> bring Allah down on their ***es in the form of a nuclear weapon in the middle of their most holy sites
<9> windopain, one middle easterner does not mean anything.
<10> p_o what type of buddhism are you talking about, taoism?
<8> send them back to their beloved land of peace
<2> and i guarantee you islam will change it ways
<1> redfish, just the general concept of eliminating desire etc. etc.
<4> salstress: i agree, it's not proof, but he made a compelling case
<9> I know that Al Sistani was urging calm and for muslims not to allow the violent extremists to dictate what they do.
<2> there is no WW2 option of invading countries and changing peoples minds
<10> p_o thats not different than christianitys concept of eliminating desire its just framed differently
<1> redfish, framed way differently.
<2> today, peoples minds have to be changed with SUDDEN action
<4> salstress: more than just a claim, hesaid this is why we don't hear the islamic community speaking out against terrorism more, because the interpretations of the koran are not incorrect
<9> windopain, you misunderstand me. I personally hate Islam. I think it is the scourge of the world today.
<1> I've never really heard of a Christian concept of eliminating desire in the same sense as buddhism.
<1> Christians want you to curb much of your desires for sinly things, but everything else is fair game.
<1> And Christians support your desire of many things, including reaching heaven.
<9> windopain, BUT I also realize that news is sensationalized, and often a tiny little psychotic majority can SEEM like the prevailing point of view, when it is absolutely NOT.
<4> salstress: oh i got that.. i'm just saying, this guy started to convince me that maybe the koran IS full of hate and denounces jews
<9> well why don't you read it and be sure
<4> salstress: i agree... that's what I've ***umed was happening up until now
<2> I don't hate islam
<2> i think its a great religion
<4> salstress: but really.. WHY hasn't the islamic community stood up ?
<9> why?
<4> salstress: i probably will read it lol
<11> I don't think it represents all of Islam
<2> the biggest problem with Islam is that they have no pope
<9> what is great about it?
<2> they have no central leader
<4> salstress: or at least do some more research into it
<10> p_o , no thats not true . if you do things because you want to get into heaven out of selfish desire, you are considred as much sinful. thats why there is talk about getting into heaven based on faith
<1> `426Hemi, er, that doesn't stop other religions... like non Catholic Christianity...
<9> windopain, I think they are afraid to stand up against other "muslims"
<2> islam has MANY different leaders and many different beliefs
<4> could be it
<2> the other big problem is that there is nothing to offer them
<1> redfish, true, but in practicality a lot of christians are like thatl.
<2> think about it
<9> yes. they are responsible. this blindness over treachery and evil in the name of your god MUST be stopped.
<2> we live in a great land ok
<9> I hold every muslim in the world responsible for what is happening now.
<2> called the UNited States of America
<2> they live in a ****ing desert
<2> where they have kings who have been supported by oil sales of their country
<2> countries
<2> because of their Sharia law and such the monarchs have been able to put into power the things we are dealing with today
<2> go read about the history of Saudi Arabia
<9> no. because of OIL they have been able to put into power all the things we are dealing with today.
<2> instead of saying "Islam ****s"
<9> 426 you type too much
<2> Salstress, not only because of oil
<2> THATS the point
<2> there are many other things
<9> shut up
<2> oil is just a small part of the picture
<2> cement for example
<2> sand
<2> LOTs of sand
<2> pistachios
<2> coffees
<2> general trade products
<12> pricegrabber.com sold out for $485 mil!
<9> bots should operate such that anyone who types in more than 5 lines per minute is kicked for a minute
<12> damn, that guy made some bucks there
<6> salstress - A little touchy tonight?
<2> salstress, the day that you ever can keep up with me in reality, will be the day that you will have some sort of credibility on this channel
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