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<0> Tolerance and withdrawal do not neccesarily mean addicted
<1> Well, withdrawal symptoms suggest addiction
<0> There are drugs with have no getting high qualities which you have to withdraw off of and which you build tolerance too
<1> most certainly
<0> Katey no
<0> Katey
<2> doctors may have an issue with the term physical addition, but i don't think many people involved with addiction do
<0> I was a professional
<0> Thats not true
<1> Withdrawal symptoms suggest that there's some sort of physical dependence
<0> And i have talked to doctors about this who specialize in it
<2> physical symptoms
<1> windopain, right
<3> many drug addicts don't receive the help the need, but that's mainly not the weed addicts
<2> someone can be sad that they aren't using anymore... that's not a physical addiction
<4> yah i've seen pretty bad withdrawal symptoms from potheads
<4> ;p
<1> lol
<0> There is chemotheraphy which has withdrawal
<3> they mostly use hard drugs, mostly
<4> not like heroin or anything
<4> but ya know puking and stuff
<4> feeling sick as a dog
<1> chemotherapy has dreadful side effects
<2> i smoked pot for at least 10 years, quit a few times in there... in contrast my mom drank for most of my life.. i saw her quit a few times, often willingly... the difference isn't comparable
<4> nothing too extreme
<1> I have never heard that there are withdrawal symptoms
<0> A lot of non mind changing drugs have withdrawal issues
<4> they are rare, but they happen
<1> other than relief at not being nauseous and weak
<1> :)
<2> alcohol is physically addicting... there's a chemical similar to herion that builds up in the brain after prolonged alcohol use.. it is released when detoxing...
<3> stopping potsmoking may cause depression
<4> yah alcohol is the worst of both worlds
<5> windopain: what chemical?
<2> although, i will say this... I do not believe that there are NO physically addicting attributes ***ociated with marijuana... every time i quit after heavy use, i would get a high after about 2 weeks... a strong one, for about 2 hours or so
<0> Katey There are 100s of drugs which do not get you high which you must withdraw from over a time table including prednisone.
<6> flyssasvin the government says pot smoking causes depression, not quitting it
<0> there is also a tendency with many many non mind altering drugs to build up tolerance
<1> FreeTrade, sure..but that still suggests a physical dependence
<3> but what is life without a little addiction=?
<0> meanign they have to increase the dose
<2> but we know the thc is stored in fatty tissue, so maybe it was something to do with that... i wasn't exercising lol
<7> I got some pred...what does it do?
<4> so they say anyway, all the videos I had to watch in rehab always say there is a physically addictive component to alcohol much like heroin or cigarettes, and then there is also the escapist aspect of it
<0> Addiction without the pyshcological component is not addiction
<1> Well, tolerance doesn't equal dependence
<8> steriod Yankee
<2> and it happened after the same time period more than once... compared with alcohol detox however, heh... no comparison
<8> not anabolic variety though
<0> Tolerance is a prime example of a tendency to addiction in some drugs
<6> speaking of drinking i got royally hammered last night
<3> life is pain, so that when the sun shines you know the sun shines since you remember the rain
<7> heh., damn
<0> Not de facto dependency but tendency toward
<8> eeek!
<9> hey Katie
<6> i had 2 40's and a few shots of vodka last night lol
<1> hello CryHavoc
<4> remember kids, Mr T. says "i pitty the fool who does drugs"
<3> im getting hammered right now
<3> ...
<9> a hans noogie!!
<1> suna, he also says, "I need work!"
<4> lol katey
<4> ;p
<10> hi ocdoc
<7> what's the Islam-Nazi connection?
<5> yo red
<9> HAHA yANKEE
<1> suna, I know. I gave my husband the Mr. T talking keychain as a gift a few years ago. :)
<3> islam-nazi????
<0> when doctors give pain pills or benzodiazephine if there isnt a level of titration which can not be maintained for years then eventually it would work because of the toleration.. And they you have to go through physical withdrawal. And try a new medicine
<9> as if either group would tolerate each other
<6> VIENNA, Austria (CNN) -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Saturday followed through on his threat to cease all cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, the nation's state-run media, IRNA, reported.
<0> Btu those are drugs which some people become addicted to
<7> I am reading a website....tellthekidsthetruth.com
<0> a minority of clinically prescibed people but still a significant amount.
<7> it isn't funny.
<6> remember those anti marijuana commericals that would show a kid shooting someone
<6> those commericals were stupid
<6> and flat out lies
<2> eh i think the ones today are too
<2> kid sitting in the basement...
<2> "you'll never get ANYWHERE in life smoking pot"
<6> my favorite was the one that said buying weed supports terriosm
<6> that was hillarious
<0> Take the cocaine addict, He has very little withdrawal compared to many drugs and he has tolerance, but his addiction is one of the more stonger addictions.
<6> i actually laughed out loud when i saw that one
<1> ok. I'm out. ttyl.
<2> i remember being a kid smoking pot, when that commercial came on, everyone was like "yup, that's me, i'm not going anywhere..." ****, i smoked it through college and i really wonder how many of those kids don't even bother trying to go anywhere because of the social conditioning
<5> Katey
<1> OcDoc
<0> Heroin addicts who arent given heroin most likely wont die during withdrawal, on the other hand alcohol withdrawal involves a lot of codes on floor.
<5> ttyl
<2> psychological addiction FreeTrade... i think it's important to distinguish between the two, since they are different.
<5> wondo: none of them
<0> OcDoc, I have a question for you. Does the plaque on my Aorta go away after years od not smoking or stay ?
<6> i know alot of very sucessfull people who are pot heads
<11> Calidank_, I thought it was buying heroin
<6> tailor they had one for weed
<5> Free: plaque probably only goes away after years of very low fat/cholesterol diet
<0> Windo, All of the drugs which are addictive have a psychological dependency too.
<3> good night people, two a clock in the middle of teh ****ing night here in norway. telling ya'all to keep it reel and don't take no ****. stay true to the poo and hold the **** to your heart. feel good and eat crud.
<6> tailor they quickly stopped playing the one on weed cause it drew so much criticism
<6> i saw it like twice in a couple days then never saw it again
<2> FreeTrade: even if it does nothing to make you feel different?
<0> Hmm I have low cholestoral low blood pressure and am always on a low fat diet.
<6> there was a huge backlash against that commerical
<0> OcDoc this is smokign related
<11> Calidank_, I don't remember one with weed, as that doesn't come out of the middle east, hash maybe.
<5> good evening mister and misses north america and all the ships at sea
<0> my first Not MRI ummm.. ****, Imaging was not long after I quit, like 3 years maybe..
<6> tailor the commerical existed
<6> i wouldnt just make it up
<5> Free: I don't think plaque is smoking related, but I'm not certain anyone knows for sure
<0> They found plaque on my aorta, but not serious, I was just wondering if stopping smoking makes it go away or dissolve or whatever, the doctor said it was from smoking.
<11> Calidank_, who put those out?
<0> hmm
<8> smoking constricts blood vessels no?
<6> tailor no idea...whoever puts out all the anti marijuana commericals
<6> the goverment i ***ume
<6> some government agency
<5> Free: I don't know that anyone knows for sure ... the only scientific study I know about was fat/cholesterol related
<8> that's why it's so evil ? besides the lung issue
<2> OcDoc: eh, if that reply was to me, (wondo), i know of at least one.
<5> windopain: what reply?
<5> windopain: oh, what chemical was what I asked?
<2> OcDoc: eh if you can't remember what you said or look it up then nevermind
<6> If you quit drugs, you join the fight against terror in America."
<6> President George W. Bush
<5> windopain: I lost the scroll when I signed off
<2> nope, i figured you could figure that one out on your own if you really cared
<0> Windo, Pschological depedence would not neccesarily make you feel different psychically just more secure, For example you could becomes pyschologically addicted to your baby aspirin if you are a heart patient.. you might anxiety attacks if you forgot your baby aspirin.
<2> i'm talking about the one where you said "wondo: none of them"
<2> no this was since you signed back on
<11> Calidank_, where did you get that?
<5> windopain: none of them decided not to do anything with their lives
<6> theantidrug.com
<10> IRC: the anti-drug
<8> heh red
<5> because of social conditioning from a stupid anti-drug commercial
<2> FreeTrade: what if the drug was administered to you without you knowing?
<5> nobody decides to do anything based on antidrug commercials
<0> Windopain do you know how alcoholism became a disease according to the AMA ?
<11> Calidank_, the word quit isn't even on that page.
<10> ocdoc what about the VERB its what you do commercials
<6> tailor what ?
<5> redfish?
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