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<0> hey hey
<1> :)
<2> They may keep Beijing as a token capital...
<3> Cryolas so it will be everyone for himself. nation aside...
<2> but the next Overlords of China will be the port cities
<4> BAHAHA
<2> Shanhai, HK, Macau Kwang Chou
<4> I should not be able to have something like this
<4> use
<2> nope
<2> the places like HK will carve out a sphere of influence
<3> Cryolas can you imagine if the US split in such a way economically? do you think people would lay down the flag in the face of economic reality?
<2> said area will produce good for Hong Kong to sell
<2> the US has a manageable population and a 230 yer traditio
<0> NY Times administers coup de grce
<0> to crippled website
<0> no one paying to read your ****?
<2> China has 1.1 billion people held together only my military force
<0> shocker there.
<3> Cryolas i was playing hypothetical. how much do we place nationalism above economics?
<2> Nationalism n the USA is different
<5> Imo, China might have 'environmental catastrophe' -- maybe acid rain. Collapse of subsistance agriculture and then **** hits the fan.
<2> US is also not held together by military force
<4> this is absurd
<2> if Chian loses food..they are in deep ****
<6> .
<0> 1.5 billion
<0> thats a lot of rice.
<2> Macao Kwang Chou and HK will be one entity
<2> Shanghai/Nanjing Hangzhou will be anoter
<2> Qingdao/Beijing will be a third
<2> they will commandeer zones that stretch west to China's borders
<5> Imo, China will not disintegrate -- as long as subsistence agriculture still functions.
<2> China has unfinished business inside its country
<3> i think the mainland would be ****ed
<2> Oax no it would not...
<3> what part of china would split with its industrial powerhouses?
<2> provided they had food....or a means to get it
<7> wth
<2> Oax..I named the probable zones
<7> that dude in homeland securtiy who was a ***ual predator...he hit cynthia mckinney?
<7> or maybe i'm behind on that story
<2> the three groups I named contain at least one major port entity
<3> Cryolas i got that. and i know much less about china than you, apprently, but why wouldn't they try to hold on to the coastal cities?
<3> ok you said port
<3> i didn't realize
<1> they would hold the coastal cities
<3> but such a clean break?
<8> godfist: he hit it and quit it!
<8> haha
<2> the gerontoccracy runs Chian at the moment...
<1> cry lmao
<2> soon, they will collide with Capitalism....
<2> the current China leaders will...LOSE
<1> L0c0 isn't that common
<1> cry they'll die eventually anyway
<2> then the Tiannenmen markers will be called
<5> Imo, China will make a peaceful transition from aged Marxists leaders to plutocratic businessmen leaders.
<2> China will not hold together as it now is without military force
<2> the USSR was the same
<3> Cryolas and the same thing wouldn't hold in the US with, say, california, which hemorrhages 30% of its tax revenue to the us govt?
<2> once the threat of force was removed....
<2> Oax..no
<2> because we have a 230 year tradition of law....
<2> and California enefits as well
<5> China has had authoritarian leaders a long time.
<3> Cryolas how many years has the chinese govt had a tradition of law? they may be in the 4 digits
<2> correct
<1> ke6 yeah my grandmother used to talk about the revolution
<2> emperors and Reds
<3> california does not benefit from its federal outtake
<1> cry yeah probably the only way to hold it together
<3> it gives up monies
<2> Oax...The chinese in the PRC use Military force to keep control
<1> Oax it doesn't?
<3> states like montana take in more than they give
<2> thats martial law
<3> Rebec yeah ca notoriously loses a lot of its money to federal tax. it pays a lot mroe than it sees
<2> California benefits by the fact that its utgoing goods are not taxed
<1> Oax but it gets services for that
<3> Rebec not to the tune of what we pay
<2> time for some FairTax action then
<1> it's not like they get nothing for the money
<1> so they do benefit
<3> Rebec like i said, we see $.70 of each $1 we send to washington, dc
<1> Yes, but as long as you see some of it, it's still getting something
<3> Rebec it's worth alot more if you live in montana or kansas
<1> Oax I am sure it is, but that's the way of the world
<3> you see some ca taxpayer money
<1> I feel my tax dollars should be spent differently than they are, but they aren't
<3> Rebec sounds like occupation to me
<2> Oax,,you also get open trade with other states
<1> Oax that's why I vote libertarian
<3> granted, we do have representation, but it is not proportional
<2> and the opportunity to sell to them on the cheap
<9> How can the topic be verified ?
<2> Rebeccletarian :)
<3> anyhow CA could split from the US and do just fine
<1> Cry lol ty
<2> Cali could prob go it on its own...
<3> not that we could pull it off. i'm sure the us military would have some say in that. but economically, it would work
<2> but it would be more costly for them in the long run
<1> who cares they'll fall into the sea soon enough and land in china lol
<2> TX is in the same boat
<3> tx has actually always had the RIGHT to succeed
<3> sp?
<3> it can also split into 5 states
<2> secede
<3> some of which would be ****ed
<1> Oax yeah it's in their constitution
<3> right secede
<10> how could it work on it own if it's part of the economic country
<2> Texas could make it by self economically as well
<3> i grew up in texas and learned some of that stuff =)
<2> so could FL
<10> sorry if I'm not right
<1> hmmm cry all the states with illegals
<11> I think California is the worlds 6th largest economy
<2> pavlentij,,,California has the 5th Biggest Economy in the world
<3> rond 4th last i heard
<11> I suspect Texas and Florida are not far behind
<2> FL is #10
<7> lol @ topic
<1> ah the Russian mafia they have their hand in everything
<3> but it's nice to hold the us together
<2> Rebec...yep
<10> Cryolas, yeah but does anyhow its economy depend on the rest of the US
<9> Of course the US Strategic interest is that nuclear energy in India would reduce demand for oil in the future.
<7> california is 50% owned by russian mafia or some other mafia too i bet. they MAKE sure cali keeps running
<3> and a lot of californians, like me, are americans (as in US) first, not californian
<11> I suspect Rhode Island is a bigger economy than belgium
<2> pavlentij...not wholly...
<1> godfist lmao
<2> California produces a lot of stuff in California
<7> no seroiusly rebec
<3> but it's a bitch when there is such a poltiical disparity between the state and the nation
<2> Eating oranges to milk...cheese....
<1> I know you are but the image is so funny
<7> how could a mafia or two not own a large portion of california? i mean cali is so corrupt there has GOTTA be a considerable mafia influence in the state
<3> like i don't want my taxes going to MO or KS or the ****ing war in iraq
<2> Cali is run by communard greenfreaks
<7> the green mafia cry
<3> MT is montana sorry
<2> lol
<7> i'm sure the left has its own mafias
<7> conservative mafias prolly exist too
<2> The Earth Fisters
<3> actually cali is run by the terminator right now
<9> Mafai isnt left and right, its mafia.
<2> every culture has its organized crime
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