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<0> :)
<1> dang those capitalists
<2> if we only *understood* them better (and maybe gave the a hug) terrorists would be satisified
<2> Hugs not Bombs!
<3> shows how much panini knows about liberals
<3> but i guess there's only so much you can learn by listening to rush/slanthead
<4> so you are willing to fight terrorism on a world scale ?
<2> Lithium-, i defeat 2-3 liberals a day here in debate, so I know every aspect of liberals very well
<0> Lithium-, it's hard to know about something if one's only source of information are the charactures of "liberals" that appear on liberal talk shows and magazines
<4> shall we be in a "state of war" till our solar system collapses ?
<5> lol panini
<5> i'd like to see you show me someone who'll back you up on that claim:) Shouldn't be too hard, since this is a primarily right wing channel
<5> brb
<4> it's evident, panini is the one living in a distorted reality
<4> yes, the fasctionism is eating at his soul
<4> -s



<3> yep, poor guy
<3> thinks he wins sometimes even
<0> who declares "winners" in irc?
<4> "special" ppl like panini
<6> that's one of the delusions of the left, that they're the center and anyone to the right of them is right wing
<2> it's easy to know when you've won a debate
<3> uhuh
<2> either by Godwin's law...
<4> yup, 60%
<5> funny gloriae
<7> re:winners i do self appointed
<5> because in this chanenl, you see the reverse
<4> or by percentages
<5> anybody who disagrees with a conservative in this channel is called a liberal
<2> or when the liberal has an emotional breakdown
<5> whether or not he has any real liberal views
<0> That's one of the delusions of the right wing: That everyone to the left center thinks that terrorists are "freedom fighters"
<0> see?
<0> We can all play that game
<1> winning a debate with a liberal means suddenly they want to talk about something else
<6> one thing liberals have to get used to, or be out of step forever, is the proper use of the term 'liberal' in contemporary discussion
<8> katey: do you have any evidence to backup that claim?
<5> faaallout: then liberals dont' lose debates here. They just keep on going and going and going
<5> :)
<3> Lupine: panini *just* said it
<3> lol
<6> there's no shame in being a liberal as such; there is shame in parroting liberal lines while denying one is a liberal
<8> lithium: that maybe panini's delusion :P.. but hardly indictable of the right wing in general
<5> panini doesn't even know what the hell a libearl is. He just thinks it means whatever he wants to to. Anybody he's debating with is a liberal, no matter what they believe. Also, he always wins. Whehter he wins or not.
<1> suna: you don't make any sense
<8> glor: well, most of these are not actually liberals.. but rather, leftoids
<6> as an ex-liberal, I can testify that the learning experiences are not painless
<0> I think there's shame in parroting anyone's "lines"
<6> they are, however, very worth having
<0> But that's never stopped anyone in here
<8> katey: ironic, coming from a DailyK0S'er
<2> i think there is a shame in being a liberal, but usually liberals are not smart enough to know that
<5> what do you think a liberal is panini?
<5> i guess any answer is as valid as any other, liberal means nothing nowdays
<2> i've given the definition many times here
<4> a terrorist, anti-capitalist, communist.
<1> we already talked about that
<5> conservative still means something, but it's quickly following the fate of 'liberal'
<6> there are smart people who are liberals, but in fact smartness isn't enough to escape what Christopher Hitchens called the echo chamber (cf. the quote in the rosenbaum article)
<1> liberals think like criminals
<5> veague and retarded
<4> would that be accurate oh great one ?
<5> both words just shouldn't be used at all
<1> if you scroll up we spoke on that at length
<0> lol
<2> i never said all liberals are terrorists
<5> in my opinion, once you are forced to call somebody either one in an actual debate
<0> Christopher Hitchens
<6> it takes more than smartness, it takes true strength of character
<5> YOU have lost
<0> haha
<2> just that liberals try to rationalize and minimize terrorism
<6> smartness helps but cannot alone do the job
<5> Once you result to using a generic losely defined (or in my opinion completely undefined) term such as "liberal" in the form of a generic insult
<5> you've lose



<5> lost
<3> must **** being so closed minded
<2> Lithium-, no need to pity your superiors
<3> superiors hah
<5> more & more people are calling bush libearl now. I suppose it's true.
<1> funny that liberals acknowledge tacitly that "liberal" is considered an insult
<9> i pity people who work in fast food
<9> its a tough job
<10> I remember a union organization man showing up at a shop I worked at. he promised the world. the world. We were gonna have better wages, more time off and on an on. I asked "whats it cost?" he said not a thing. "I asked how much are the dues?" he never said. SO I called up the local later to find out: dues= WHOPPIGN HUGE!!!
<2> Faaallout, yeah, I noticed that too
<10> that day I became a anti-union agitator
<5> faaallout: well, conservatives use it as a generic meaningless insult
<5> libearl is like "lamer" use to be
<5> it doesn't mean anything
<8> pil: probably far more in dues than in increase in salary
<1> ah
<3> who acknowledges that "liberal" is an insult?
<5> it's just "hey! i'm saying a bad thing to you! feel insulted!'
<2> liberals *hate* being called liberals, because they have a vague idea that it's something bad, although they have no clue why
<5> thats all liberal means
<1> suna: if it doesn't mean anything then why are all the liberals here getting so worked up?
<5> panini: and niehter do you
<5> or anyone else
<10> Lupine DECREASE in salary for the folks who did go union. my area did NOT go union and got a increase
<5> liberal has no set definitiona nymore
<5> the historical definitions are useless
<3> "neocon", now thats an insult
<5> because they are very very very veyr
<8> Lol.. dont dare call Hillary a liberal.. she'll have such a vaginal discharge in anger
<5> veyr very very very
<10> and they paid dues too
<5> very very very
<8> Pil: excellent
<5> rarely used properly
<11> there are meanings to words like leftist and liberal, despite the fact that suna refuses to understand or acknowledge them.
<0> suna, it's used differently depending on who is using it
<1> denying who one is is typical of a liberal
<0> suna, coming from the "right", it's obviously an insult
<5> katey: Yes. IN other words, it's basically an undefined useless word. People shouldn't use it at all
<11> suna is a liberal
<0> suna, yeah. That may be the case
<0> and the same goes for conservative
<5> peole shouldn't use 'left', 'right', 'liberal', or 'conservative' because the definition of all the words arn't agreeed upon
<8> NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - BlackBerry maker Research in Motion said Friday it agreed to pay $612.5 million to patent holding company NTP to settle a long-running dispute that had threatened to shut down the popular wireless e-mail service.
<5> yes, indeed
<12> lets all just celebrate that a dirty congressman got 8+yrs in the slammer
<13> good morning chatter pals
<0> Many traditional conservatives don't feel well represented by the current crop of "conservatives"
<13> heya katey what's up:)
<5> left and right are still ok i guess
<0> hello tsunade
<5> though they are unspecifici
<5> salstress is a liberal
<1> wait wait
<1> so all i have to do
<8> suna: and yet, why do liberals often act like startled cochroaches in the night, when asked if they are liberal?
<1> is disagree with what you think a word means
<11> liberal and conservative have very specific meanings that are useful and meaningful. just because suna can't grasp this concept does not make it untrue.
<1> and then we don't use it anymore
<1> that is awesome
<8> sals: its just another attempt to deny their liberal and leftoid heritages
<11> I am not a liberal.
<5> Lupine: I dunno, I don't see many people asked if they are liberal
<13> yah lol
<0> Faaallout, you're free to use or not use whatever word you choose
<5> salstress; I say you are. That means you are. Because it is accepted in politics to define liberal however you want to
<5> tehrefore
<13> no one ever asked me if im a liberal
<5> you are a liberal
<5> period.
<8> suna: mostly because the media is liberal as well.. but if you want to see something funny.. ask Hillary ;-)
<5> :)
<11> no, it is not accepted that way. it is only your preposterous hypothesis, which you put forth because you can't understand the real meanings, however strict or loose they are used in context.


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