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<0> well this things needs scruitny
<1> they ALL blew a nut on this one
<0> regardless
<2> its a stunt
<1> stunt with what intent though
<3> Yeah, funny how the liberals screamed about the port deal .... I thought they were all against profiling etc
<0> but if anyone starts deny facts or following them to stupid conclusions...it will probably be the liberals
<0> denying*
<1> lexes - both rep and dem leaders in house and senate objected
<0> and yes
<0> god damnit I am labelling
<1> the majority of leaders on the hill objeted to this
<2> well, there is some interest in measuring the alarm factor in the general polulace about foreigners, and middle easterners in general.
<1> bush finally brought non-partisan work on the hill !
<3> DrDetr0it yes I know, but wouldn't you think the Dems would be all for it?
<1> they ALL agreed this was well- something to consider first
<1> it's nothing to do with Islam
<1> that never entered
<0> well the fact is that it makes liberals look like total hippocrites once again
<1> it's that it's an arab nation I believe OR that UAE had people that were involved in 9/11
<1> OR that UAE helped FUND the people that did 9/11 WTC II
<1> I think that was more of it
<0> that is such a spin
<1> and no one accused UAE either
<0> not you
<2> probably, most people don't worry too much about it. unless they follow the news, then they will not like it. if that faction wins out, then there will be a rethinking of all the contracts for foreigners to get info on transport in the us.
<1> I didn't act
<0> but that belief
<1> USE reps acted this way
<1> I don't know why each one objected
<3> I heard a year ago the UAE was funding Hamas
<2> i think the key word is transport, more than it is about arab
<0> I know, but they don't like arabs in general and have been consistent
<0> hahaha
<1> or why Frist said - hold your hobby horses
<0> Frist...crazy
<0> Bush...good
<1> I just know I read that many on the hill freaked on this
<1> both sides
<0> right, the democrats just like to oppose Bush...the republicans see polls and want to be independent
<0> and they would like to not rely on anything that any arab could control
<2> if the arab port becomes a scandal, then china will go down, and all the foreigners will go down for anything related to trasnport. that could happen. the politicians will keep their grubby little fingers in the wind
<0> the port deal goes through
<0> it has to
<0> congress will wake up just like they did with the NSA spying BS
<2> if that happens, then the next thing will be those nations punishing the us in the same way, and we will have a trade war that is different from importing goods. it will be about services. which will make things more complicated
<1> hey, where is homeland to cover their *** on this
<1> I say, if homeland can't handle free enterprise
<1> well damn it - US should formally take an isolationist stance
<2> but we have to go thru this, we have to examine it. and it is good that the controversy is public and not jsut internal to govt bodies
<4> isolationism = stupidity
<0> other nations won't punish the US
<0> we have a big army and lots of friends in reality
<0> and a whole lot of money
<2> the us isnot isolationist. no way we can ever go back to isolationism all our corps are already global. they just live here and pay taxes . there is no going back to isolationism.
<0> just loook at how ineffective the UN is
<3> problem is, we don't always know who our friends are
<1> tortus- we can't go back
<1> but saying we can't allow foreign nations without cause to do business with the US
<2> at that point, it will be a public education issue, a propaganda campaign
<1> I'd reach to call that isolationist
<1> so, the port deal has to come through
<1> unless UAE has WMD's
<1> ha
<1> I dunno
<0> hahaha
<4> brb
<1> but - it's gotta go through unless due cause to block
<0> the UAE is a bunch of businesmen
<0> ss
<1> I had a neighbor from UAE
<1> damn he had money
<3> DrDetr0it It does not disturb you that the UAE funded Hammas ... however you spell his name
<0> the support Hamas because if they didn't they would lose Muslim trade
<1> he had big*** money to throw around.
<0> hands down
<1> lexes- hey, me ? personally ? I'd say - yeah, no kidding that most of the hill stopped in their tracks on this
<0> if they didn't support Hamas they would lose all oil trade
<1> I committee needs to be set up to evaluate if UAE has ties to terrorist nations
<1> that's been the admin's policy
<1> if you have ties, you lose
<0> it's really rather simple to understand that they are not terrorist supporters....
<1> if you don't, hey, nice to do business with ya
<1> that's what I'd expect from this admin
<0> buut
<0> congress should do that
<1> me personally ? I think it's business. But it doesn't help to have had prior ties to terrorism
<1> or that 9/11 thingy
<2> the us is not isolationist. the public mood may be isolationist, but the economy isnot. so it is a matter of education. or propaganda. that is where you will see the elected officials working. not on changing any policy. it will be education. it could become politics for the eclection, and that is sad, but it is probably where it will land
<0> well, that's because the ties are business ties and nothing more
<2> good thing is, ther will be a discussion in public
<0> I mean
<0> the ties are fine
<0> The government of Iran is seeking permission from the Polish government to conduct on-site inspections of the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau as part of its so-called investigation into whether the Holocaust actually took place.
<0> you see
<0> Iran is the problem
<0> that is the most audacious claim of all time
<0> Germany should spit on them
<0> Way to lose more potential allies
<0> "Under no circumstances should we permit this," Miller told the Polish press agency PAP. "This is beyond all imaginable norms that such a thing is discussed."
<0> Democratic diva Barbra Streisand is weighing in on the Portgate controversy, saying that President Bush deserves to be impeached for "pushing his luck" by selling out America's security to a country with "terrorist affiliations."
<2> publius: you quoted barbra striesand. that is unforgivable
<0> HAHAHA
<2> the woman is insufferable
<1> indeed
<1> my understanding is Germany is with US on invading Iran
<1> even France
<0> they are already
<1> while they sure like the idea of MArch 20th announcement by Iran to start selling oil in Euro's
<1> I read that neither of the two nations find the current Iranian government that stable or trustworthy
<0> that's gonna drop off some
<1> oh, already, ok.
<0> haha
<0> I mean...
<0> that offense to the U.S will piss off a lot of jewish leaders in europe
<0> I mean
<4> ?
<1> ?
<5> I think there was some embarr***ment and denial from the germans over reports german intelligence helped the US in the Iraqi invasion.
<0> that question by Iran will piss off a lot of Jewish politicians in europe
<4> which question
<0> The government of Iran is seeking permission from the Polish government to conduct on-site inspections of the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau as part of its so-called investigation into whether the Holocaust actually took place.
<4> oh, right
<4> they're like a teen throwing a tantrum
<0> Iran is just blowing away any opposition
<0> haha
<4> lash out against easy/obvious targets in order to distract from their own obvious strategy
<0> well they think the U.S is bluffing, that's the fault in their logic
<5> But to side with the nazis is to side with nation conquerors even if ethnic cleansing didn't take place.
<5> They took technology wealth man power land all by force.
<0> oppressed: No one buys anything like that holocaust crap and there are jews and anyone who is sane who woud flip if Poland allowed that
<5> What does that mean sorry?
<0> That appeal wouldn't work
<0> it's ***uming Poland missed the truth of the entire issue
<5> To say that siding with the nazi's was wrong even if genocide and death camps are taken out of the equation?
<4> of course, they wouldn't be
<5> Polan got sandwiched by the russians and the german's they didn't have a chance.
<5> Poland
<0> Poland would never side with Iran
<0> nor would they ever allow such a ridiculous investigation to occur
<5> They didn't choose to be nazi land.
<0> regardless
<4> uh huh.
<5> Why not?
<0> it is about the jewish people
<5> If they want to look around and take pictures why stop them?
<4> it's about all the Nazis' victims
<5> I mean the more investigation the better.
<2> good picture tho, the mullahs examining polish concentration camps.
<2> too good to be true
<2> omg
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