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<1> mmm linux clustering love.
<0> antifed: yah so will i
<2> Bush is so stupid for going to the middle east and attempting to get their countries to like him and stuff
<3> antifed: Why's that?
<0> but big institutions wont
<0> big instutitions drop the ****ing dime
<2> india...with the middle east
<1> necrosan: performance vs cost.
<3> What about some lame 1U x86 POS over an Origin 3400?
<0> dude you really gotta learn how to pay for stuff
<0> sometimes you pay for stuff
<4> travis: you been dissing your employer, and i know all about it
<5> Publius: Nice try but they are really geeking out here
<6> Brak - been working around puters since 60s -- go figure
<0> tortus: bye
<6> ttt and don't forget his making threats in here
<4> travis: don't ignore me! it will hurt my feelings
<6> ttt - gonna go over real well with the feds
<5> Kaliuna: I've been playing since the mid-70's (love that programming with cards stuff). Owned an early Kaypro CPM.
<4> kal: i need to go to group. my feelings are hurt
<6> Brak -- ehehhe - shhh those old cards - got box of em in storage..
<6> ttt - awwww
<5> Kaliuna: But technology has kind of gotten too fast and I'm just not as well versed in everything as I used to be.
<6> brak - writing the programs trying to figure out just what the heck a computer could be used for ..
<0> at my last job i wrote software that processed 3490 billing tapes, in Telcordia CABS format, from our ILECs to reconcile the bills they send us
<4> kal: did i tell you i am going to unpack my kitchen for the first time in 6 years? i am sorta looking forward to it
<6> brak - ya - keeping up with all the programs -- whew... ya know what I mean
<0> said software saved between 10% and 30% on 60k / mo phone bills
<4> i am going to start cooking again
<6> ttt - sounds like fun!! --
<0> so uh, **** it
<0> the tallest blade of gr*** is the fisrt one chopped
<7> i write my code strictly in pascal
<4> yeah. cuisinart. saute pans. double broilers
<7> because im such a damn iconoclast
<4> woohooo
<5> occ: I thought you were a COBOL type of guy.
<7> never!
<2> HEY
<0> whats funny is
<2> put it on the news people
<2> if you actually care about politics
<0> the CABS format was done in COBOL
<0> which was evil
<2> CNN, FOX, ect
<0> sick twisted
<0> ebcdic packed field nightmares
<5> When I used cards for programming, it was Fortran
<6> cobol is old...
<6> Brak - ya fortran mainly --
<0> my stepdad took fortran, worst mistake he made according th him
<5> Kaliuna: So am I
<0> his pal took c
<4> legacy programmers can get some bux.
<2> Bush and the pakistinian president are having a press conference live
<2> put it on
<6> brak remember old basic - before BASIC came along?
<4> $50 hr minimum
<0> whats funny is
<0> alot of places actually use delphi
<0> i hate pascal
<4> those fortran programmers are hated and sought out
<0> but apparently its a decent ide
<5> Kaliuna: You talking about 10, 20, 30 basic before Microsoft BASIC or something even earlier?
<6> ttt - shhh --
<7> delphi was pretty popular in the mid 90s
<4> heheh
<0> i dont use ide's tho
<6> brak -- probably closest to 10
<7> you'r emissing out, travis
<6> might be just prior --
<7> its a waste of time not to
<4> i actually still have a fortran legacy system
<5> I remember writing BASIC programs on my Dad's original Osborne I
<7> why reinvent the wheel, ya know?
<0> eh
<5> He even had an early BASIC compiler under CPM
<6> oh my brak -- first one I worked on was IBM - took up size of -- school gym
<4> the programmers are all over 50, and they are not concerned about your problems
<0> vim is my ide
<0> you mean interpeter
<7> i used a computer when it was like, this weird abacus
<0> basic isn't compiled
<7> so beat that!
<7> NO ITS INTERPRETED HEE HEE
<0> beat that
<4> if i was a kid, i would learn fortran. but, kids are too smart for that
<5> ...and so I have been drawn into the geekdom conversation :)
<0> HEE HEE
<0> beat that
<0> HEE HEE
<8> fortran is like what they learn in starfleet
<6> brak -- and now in biz use so many diff programs -- compiling them all - coordinating -- trying to get one puter program to relay info that will work with another...
<9> occ you're not very security conscious are ya
<0> bud: whats his problem
<4> jos: yeah. its like ancient history. but, it is a niche that a kid could learn to get away from the pack. the pack that is not being hired by the businesses that are outsourcing to india
<0> bud: whats his problem
<5> Kaliuna: It's been so long since I paid much attention to the programming side of the world. Last I was REALLY involved was when C++ was going to be the be all and end all for computer programming.
<10> now, if India turns around and outsources to China -ha
<6> ttt - for sure -- like son works coordinating program info on international basis --
<0> brak: apparently now its c#
<6> brak -- hehe yaaaaaaa then N programs and hmm that was a few yrs ago
<4> fortran programmers have to deal with undocumented systems. but, they have the advantage of being the only ones who can even freakin read what it is
<10> Brak55 - for C++ dev's it still is.
<7> man, i sure hope that stops
<0> anything you wanna say occ ?
<6> ttt - :) ya --
<0> about how you shouldn't vall prey to mob mentality ?
<5> So there are still C++Bigots around? I always enjoyed discussions with the MacBigots.
<9> occ: secure your ****. i could forward all your incoming calls to 911 in about 5secs
<6> hehehehe
<0> hahaha
<4> kal: if i was 19, i would not learn c++. i would learn fortran or cobas.. probably fortran
<11> if a programmer was president, things would be logical, efficient and backward compatible (with democrats)
<3> Brak55: I use a mac.
<10> Brak55- of sure. JUst stop on over to #C++ here or on irc.freenode.net
<7> i already downloaded the new stupid mirc
<7> theres nothing more i can do!
<0> its not mirc
<0> i already told you that earlier occ
<6> ttt -- ya -- both -- but ya gotta remember that didn't even exist when I started....
<0> until you got to lazy to do a whois or think on your own
<9> occ your router/voip webserver is wide open, no admin p***wd
<3> what happened in the new lame mirc?
<5> Necrosan: I have no problem with Macs at all. It's more the super fanatical users that are fun to argue with.
<10> MacBigots - heh. They stil exist. I read that Mac had won #1 slot for customer loyalty one year while also winning slot for lowest user base.
<7> well god dammit
<7> i dont have time for such frivolities
<3> Brak55: I guess. But you got more linux fan boys as of late :)
<4> kal: fortran is a good language. its just not graphical
<7> what do i need to do?
<9> now that everyone knows, unplug it now. and put a p***wd on
<12> too late. pwnd
<9> rtfm
<6> ttt - ehh catch ya tomorrow... and maybe we can talk graphics stuff -- :)
<7> im just at some internet cafe!
<12> I just put a p***word on it for him
<9> occ haha are you really?
<10> tortus you can take F90 and plug into OpenGL no prob.
<6> ttt 00 but hubby just shut down for night - errr morning... :)
<9> then i should forward all their calls to 911
<6> Nite
<9> then they'll think about security
<5> Necrosan: Yeah, the Linux folks were just coming in when I got out of that end of the business. You know, it was going to kill Microsofts marketshare :)
<6> HI and by DrD - and yup
<4> kal: ok. but, i have no info on programming. cept what isn't available
<3> Brak55: hahaha
<6> ttt - :) nite for now...
<4> drdetroit: i have legacy systems that are secure
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