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<0> TheTailor: I'm starting to wonder about the sheers.
<1> Abramhoff is another
<2> And he was on the host committee for the RNC.
<3> Mrrod: both
<0> OcDoc: Ever hear of an honorary medical degree?
<2> You don't think Jack favored republicans?
<3> MrRod: no ... have you?
<3> sintient: I bet he backed the winners
<1> MrRod, I'm a shade guy, with curtins, those sheers with the defused light, it's just, just...
<1> To soft!
<3> sintient: if it had looked like the Democrats were winning, he prolly would have backed them instead
<0> OcDoc: Not myself but my mother said she thinks my Dad had a doctor with an honorary medical degree.
<3> MrRod: heh ... fake ones I know about, but not honorary ones
<0> TheTailor: Ok. I'm already getting the shades. But... well, should I take Comet's advice regarding sheers?
<4> MR .. don't do the sheers yet .. wait to see how you like it w/o them
<1> MrRod, maybe it would be ok in one room, do all the rooms have to have 'em?



<2> A vote is a vote.
<3> sintient: I know about companies who back both sides in some races
<2> If he can get a any congressman to vote the way he wants it is worth it to him rigt?
<0> CometBaby: I think the windows will look naked without something else.
<2> Sure but 90 percent and 10 percent is really backing both.
<2> At least not evenly.
<1> MrRod, ya know, many people have them, and they likely know far more about this stuff than I ever will.
<4> so do I .. also it adds another level of privacy
<0> CometBaby: In the mean time, I need a rug.
<3> sintient: tell it to the voters ... they're the ones who keep re-electing the incumbents 98%
<0> TheTailor: We're such interior decorating ignoramouses.
<2> Commitees.
<2> If you elect a noob your district no longer has the senior leaders or chairpeople in place.
<4> MrRod is an Inferior Designer
<4> lol
<3> sintient: oh, gee ... no pork for you then
<0> CometBaby: At least I took my chances with a color other than white. TheTailor hasn't yet.
<2> It is a scam, once elected their ability to start increasing the pork through more power stars to look pretty good I guess.
<0> CometBaby: I did get a picture for the wall, though.
<3> sintient: maybe instead of "he said, she said" we should take the power to grant pork away from all of them
<4> nice one?
<0> CometBaby: Of course.
<4> Did you pay more than $3 for it?
<2> There was bill that would keep lobbyists away from congressmen and make sure that bills were submitted 24 hours before a vote on them but this senate shot it down by 4 or 6 votes.
<2> barney frank sponsered it "house reform bill"
<3> sintient: that ignores the fact that lobbyists are mostly interested citizens and that the bills are increasingly long and complex
<2> Registered lobbyists.
<0> I got this one: http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/PD--11722114/SP--A/IGID--1347623/The_Tree_of_Crows_1822_.htm?sOrig=SCH&ui=4EC9BE84C6034E99A9C2081C32957C50
<3> sintient: they're ALL registered ... don't you know anything?
<2> They are so long and complex there is no limit to how fast they can be brought up to vote.
<0> CometBaby: Single matte, black frame.
<2> to a
<3> sintient: have you actually ever participated in politics, or are you an armchair expert?
<4> ;)
<2> What do you have in mind?
<0> CometBaby: I have to finish painting, though. Removing the old paint is a pain in the ***.
<0> CometBaby: I have to get rid of the flowery wall switch cover too. It's way too... I'm sure it was selected by a 10 year old girl.
<0> CometBaby: At least the Barney the Dinosaur paint stencels are long gone.
<3> thus proving that MrRod is innocent of trying to lure 10 year old girls
<2> He agreed to put language into the bill on the House side and would help us, help the tribe in making sure that the language stayed and that this change would be affected," Schwartz said.
<2> Six days later, Abramoff sent Schwartz an e-mail that said, "Congressman Ney. 'Please get the following checks for him asap.'" The requests which came from Abramoff for Bob Ney's campaign and political action committee totaled $32,000.
<0> OcDoc: It used to be a girl's bedroom. Thus, the decor.
<3> MrRod: and you deny any knowledge of what little girls like in their bedrooms?
<3> please!
<0> OcDoc: Oh, I know it.
<3> MrRod: you want this jury to believe that?\
<0> OcDoc: Now, one thing I wasn't expecting was the buggers covering the wall next to the bed after I moved in. Gross.
<3> boogers?
<0> OcDoc: Yes. Boogers.
<0> OcDoc: I thought only boys did that.
<3> MrRod: are you now or have you ever been, related to Dave Barry?
<1> sintient, Abramoff gave what, $50 grand to Harry Reid?
<1> sintient, I told you earlier, they buy into both parties
<3> Mr "Boogers are my Beat" Rod
<2> Is there a similar trail of evidence that is was in responnse to a promise to alter legislation
<2> ?
<0> OcDoc: There. Now I have a reputation.
<2> The circumstances matter.
<1> sintient, funny you don't mention Reid being paid off for favors
<2> prove it
<3> the circumstances sintient is referring to are "Republicans are evil and Democrats are well-meaning"



<2> I just looked up abrahmoff and found the ney article first
<1> Prove it? Reid admits he took the money
<2> No the circumstances are is the money for something actions in congress and not just a donation for a relection fund.
<0> CometBaby: I think I'll order the sheers anyway.
<2> Hastert took money.
<2> He admitted it and then said he gave it to a charity.
<0> CometBaby: I mean, I don't sleep in this room.
<1> Pelosi was stuttering when asked about it, haha, Russert had her speechless, a first
<2> So prove they were bribes and not donations that is the point.
<3> sintient: quid pro quo
<2> Abrahmoff admitted they were bribed.
<4> MR remember what I said .. very full.
<1> sintient, including Reid
<0> CometBaby: Sure.
<2> The email that shows that promises to change legistlation was the impetus to get the donations is proof.
<2> Saying they just got money is not.
<0> CometBaby: Like make them 2 times longer than the window?
<1> Sure it is, if it wasn't, Reid and the rest wouldn't be so quick to want to return the money
<3> it's all bull**** anyways ... the only way to minimize the impact of bribery in the seats of power is make the seats of power less powerful
<4> minimum of 2 times
<2> They all like hastert are afraid of the implications.
<2> See you didn't mention hastert.
<2> Shows you have bias.
<2> Well anyway no proof from you, good day..
<3> taking money from strangers is bad whether you prove it's bribery for quid pro quo or not ... they have no need for that money
<0> CometBaby: 3 times?
<2> They are running for election.
<4> yeah
<1> sintient, I said in the begining screw all of them, and the fact is, it's 2:1, democrats are always being bribed more.
<3> sintient: bull****
<2> Prove that.
<4> MR .. they look spectacular when they are very full
<2> I want to see your prove of who is beinng bribed.
<3> that's why there are laws governing the donation of money to campaigns
<2> I have no bias when I ask to see your proof.
<1> sintient, I'm not going to compile a list for you....you have the net.
<2> So you don't have to back up what you say.
<2> How many times do you say "prove that" to other people?
<2> And you just tell me "you have the net."
<2> What a joke!
<4> I have to get to bed.
<4> night all :)
<1> Culture of Corruption!
<3> night comet
<1> lol
<3> I take notice that Comet did NOT say she was going to sleep
<2> There just shows laziness, shows a double standard hippocracy and laziness.
<3> sintient: you don't prove what you say either
<1> sintient, the sole reason you talk about Abramoff is that I opened the door, the discussion to that point was J
<1> JEFFERSON
<3> sintient: you quote somebody who said something
<3> why is it that only people you disagree with have to prove it?
<0> OcDoc: Prove it!!
<0> Prove it!
<0> Ha! Ha!
<3> we're not prosecutors ... we're citizens discussing corruption in government
<0> OcDoc: There may be prosecutors here.
<1> sintient, the liberals have been screeching "Sulture of Corruption!" for two years, suddenly their reelection strategy is shot...nothing but silence :-)
<1> Culture of Corruption even :-)
<3> MrRod: we're still trying to figure out how you know what 10 year old girls like in their bedrooms
<1> lol
<1> I love it :-)
<0> OcDoc: I bought a house with a bedroom that belonged to a girl.
<3> MrRod: so how did you know what she liked in her bedroom?
<3> eh? answer me THAT!
<5> .
<2> I just talked about legislation to make it harder to get pork snuck in that was authored by democrats and shot down in a republican majority senate.
<3> ..
<0> OcDoc: Because the flowery wall switch cover was still there.
<3> sintient: if I disagree that the legislation would actually make it harder to get pork snuck in, does that mean I'm in favor of pork?
<0> OcDoc: So were the Barney the Dinosaur stincels.
<3> MrRod: how did you know which room the little girl slept in?


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