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<0> KoBushi exactly
<0> no r14
<1> It coevered R12, R13, R11, R502
<0> r12 is NOT patented, it ran out
<1> It prohibited te use of ALL CFCs
<1> not just one or two
<0> the original patent ont he chemical process was held by Miniissota Mining and Machine and it is no longer in effect
<1> (coencidentally, you can still buy recycled R12 and other CFCs but it is very $$$$ and requires special licensure)
<0> KoBushi O have a case of freon purchased to recharge cars back in the 70s when I was a mechanic. it is I am sure quite illegal to own thee days
<0> o-i
<1> pilgrim` it is w/o a liceanse
<1> I can still buy R12 from my suppliers if I wanted to pay the outragious price
<0> didn't need one back then. and I saw no reason to inform any local pencil pusher
<1> but, R414B works better than R12 anyway
<0> flameable
<2> i give fluorocarbons as gifts to friends



<1> R414B is not flamable
<0> the one I saw a presentation on is. and I am not fond of putting yet another chem in front of me for socer moms to aim at
<1> pilgrim` yeah, it's just propane basucally
<1> an HC refrigerant
<0> we could go back to the 20s and ammonia
<0> caustic as all get out
<1> R414B is an HCFC
<0> I rebuilt a ammonia based refer system once
<0> for a small store
<1> ammonia is dangerous, it's only used in really big equipment now... but it's bein phased out
<1> with glycol cirulating Co2 systems actually
<1> aka R744
<0> KoBushi I am no expert,...on anything, but I have had some experience of a lot of things, I have also a healthy and well earned scepticism of "experts". I do not favor ANY ALW "for my own good"
<3> wow I got from usnet Richard Feynman - Physics Lectures Vol 2 Ch02 Differential Calculus of ector Fields--001
<0> gopp he was a nice man. I had a few chats with him at his place
<0> his humor book is a hoot
<4> pil... you actually met him?
<0> I was friends with one of his daughters
<1> pilgrim` well Co2 would be bneficial, just slightly more $ at first... I think it'd be a better way to go, but I was realy only kidding about the law
<3> wtf you did
<4> wow
<5> cool, i talked that israeli guy into giving my nick back
<0> well, actually...I took her out once ;)
<3> wow how did he treat you going out with his daugther pilgrim`
<1> Co2 systems would be exceptionally complicated to diagnose and repair, which means I'd make money off of it :P
<0> gopp he asked a few questions, then baited me in a discussion, then we were talking and I forgot about her
<5> lol
<0> that man had the most amazing mind of anyone I have ever known
<4> heh... the nerd's greatest weakness.
<0> on ANY subject
<5> wow pilgrim, that's awesome
<3> subject
<0> KoBushi if a weasel in a suit tells you it is good: doubt. <--I have never had a reason to go back on this simple basic rule
<1> pilgrim` I don't wear a suit :)
<0> did you know he decyphered Mayan?
<5> yup!
<0> KoBushi present company excepted. a suit once told me the same thing
<5> he did because it was an unsolved problem
<0> he pssed off a lot of linguists and anthropologists
<0> came in cold and there it was
<3> what did you speak of
<0> did you know what he did to Lab security
<0> ?
<5> pilgrim he was a good drummer too
<0> they had safes for excur docs that they changed the combos on every week, new combos were kept in 1 safe
<0> so..
<6> http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/nucleus/media/21/20060204-jesusbush.jpg
<7> Disgraced former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger is blasting President Bush for undermining U.S. defenses by "breaking" the military.
<0> he cracked it, then proceeded to crack each safe and put theri new combos inside each one for each user to find and use
<8> hi Murmurs
<7> BUAHAHAH ohhh hahahahaha good god
<9> hi pmax
<7> these ****ing democrats are really unbelievable, everyday they are coming up with more bull****
<8> `426Hemi, http://www.socialistworker.org/Featured/BushsAmerica.shtml#Poor
<3> what did you speak of pilgrim`
<7> hahahahah pmax
<3> pmax
<3> lol
<8> gopp, http://www.wsws.org/sections/category/news/ineq-us.shtml
<3> lol



<3> lol lol
<3> bias\
<7> lefties never cease to amaze me with their bull****
<3> <8> `426Hemi, http://www.socialistworker.org/Featured/BushsAmerica.shtml#Poor
<3> THE WAR ON THE POOR
<8> gopp, http://www.epi.org/
<3> what war pmax
<3> who poor poor poor poor
<3> ./././././//././//././
<10> o_O
<3> pmax I am poor
<0> gop this was longer ago then you have lived and my mind is not as it once was. I do not recall exactly
<3> can you help me
<8> gopp, you sound poor!
<7> i wished these lefties could ever show me where socialism has ever worked
<8> hi SonOfSpam
<10> Hi spammer
<3> hmm pmax if a am a poor lad
<8> `426Hemi, Market socialism works just fine in Denmark and they enjoy more civil liberties than Americans do
<7> our system may not be the best, but its the best we got
<3> can you make me rich
<7> HAHAHAHAHAH pmax
<8> SonOfSpam, do tell me how I spam? I merely bring up topics of conversation
<9> lol
<3> liberal bias
<11> pilgrim: my father actually was in some of Feynmans cl***es at CalTech.. and he's got several signed copies of his books :-)
<7> on the economic freedom scale, Denmark is 8th, USA is 9th
<3> your father was a physicist
<5> Lup|ne: and sold them on ebay?
<10> Well you were, just as you usually do, spamming links without any discussion. Please try to bring up a topic and than actually discuss it.
<11> gopp: close enough, he was studying mathematics :-)
<8> SonOfSpam, I use links to provide support for my points
<10> Just spamming a litany of links doesn't contribute much to the convo.
<3> oh your father a math guru
<8> SonOfSpam, I am sorry if you do not realize that
<8> SonOfSpam, my links tend to be items of discussion
<3> Lup|ne no wonder where you get your scince background
<12> http://thestudyofrevenge.blogspot.com/2006/01/portrait-of-prophet-muhammad.html
<11> statisticaly theory, algorythms, that type fo stuff
<12> heres a nice one
<7> the population of Denmark is only 5 million, when Denmark has 300 million let me know
<3> what was your dad a phd in math
<7> its GDP is 166 billion
<10> pmax... since I'm one of the ones that enforces the rules, please try discussion of the links a bit more.
<7> when Denmark hits 11 trillion let me know
<3> lol
<8> `426Hemi, ok
<7> GDP per capita: $30,828 <--- It's GDP per capita is also lower than USA's
<8> SonOfSpam, yes, Sir
<3> pmax do you know what the gdp is
<3> do you
<0> later folks
<11> gopp: yea, but after the airforce, he worked on designing new radar systems for hughes.. mostly on the computational algorythms of interperating/analysing signals, etc
<10> It annoys me to have to ban an entire ISP when you decide you are free from moderation on a moderated forum.
<8> `426Hemi, yes, but they have much superior social health statistic
<7> Denmarks top income tax reate is a whopping 59%!!!!
<8> `426Hemi, so?
<11> rusty: well, at least they have "free" healthcare
<3> pmax do you know what the gdp is
<3> do you
<12> and 8 weeks paid vacation
<5> `426Hemi: yes but they free govt porn
<3> wtf 59% tax rate
<8> SonOfSpam, I think what annoys a lot of people is when bans show political bias
<3> that crazy
<5> +get
<3> pmax do you know what the gdp is
<3> ?>
<8> gopp, `426Hemi just quoted it
<10> pmax... are we in some sort of disagreement?
<7> In 2004, government expenditures as a share of GDP decreased 0.1 percentage point to 56.3 percent, compared to a 0.2 percentage point increase in 2003. On net, Denmark's fiscal burden of government score is 0.2 point worse this year.
<10> pmax... last I knew, me and socialists got along on many points.
<8> SonOfSpam, no, I am trying to utilize your advice
<8> SonOfSpam, not all of the ops see things the same way


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