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<OcDoc> not all problems have solutions
<gopp> shurg, at seeing liberal only solution is to tax the rich salstress
<OcDoc> there are none so blind as those who will not see
<salstress> gopp you don't make sense.
<gopp> salstress why do they argue that taxes would or can fix it all
<gopp> I do make sense
<gopp> read
<gopp> dam it
<CryHavoc> gopp makes sense :)
<CryHavoc> but ye have to stop tuning in so much Radio Free Havana :)
<gopp> who is a liberal, they argue that bytaxing the rich
<OcDoc> the solution to social security had to be taken thirty years ago by starting a fund
<OcDoc> you can't go back and start a fund that doesn't exist
<gopp> that they will fund social security and that why thier no problem
<CryHavoc> OcDoc there was one...
<gopp> when thier is a problem and putting in more money won't fix it
<CryHavoc> until LBJ gave it away
<OcDoc> no it's a pay as you go system with decreasing sources and increasing recipients
<gopp> ****en liberal
<gopp> **** Ya
<CryHavoc> because LBJ gave it away
<gopp> lol
<OcDoc> now
<gopp> :(
<gopp> stop taxing the rich, stop taxing us middle cl*** people
<gopp> Do you people even care about the middle cl***, or what?
<CryHavoc> the workers in the US will not be able to support Social Sec....
<gopp> we need a tax system that is fair
<OcDoc> gopp there is no such thing
<gopp> a system which you don't need a accountant to tell what you can do or not do with your money
<salstress> man why isn't gopp getting -v
<CryHavoc> the fairtax adresses the issue by relegating a portion of the collected tax to cover both SSi and Medicare
<gopp> you can't earn a lot,
<gopp> becuase you might be taxes a lot
<CryHavoc> he is voiced from here salstress
<OcDoc> tax systems are inherently unfair ... a small unfair tax would be better than a large unfair tax
<gopp> and who the heck want to be poor
<gopp> and earning litte
<gopp> it a fallacy
<CryHavoc> from what I read..the fair tax is fair...as far as it can be made
<salstress> he is voiced from here. okay, that makes sense. geez.
<salstress> has everyone gone mad?
<OcDoc> the only solution to unfair taxes is to make them as small as possible to cover ONLY the necessary functions of constitutionaly restricted government
<CryHavoc> salstress maybe your server is lagged... gopp is voiced
<gopp> why should I not be vocied
<gopp> I stated nothing that is not fact
<salstress> CryHavoc, I SEE that he is voiced. I am saying he should be devoiced.
<CryHavoc> OcDoc...**shock** that sounds Libertarian!!
<gopp> and I allowed for others to speak
<CryHavoc> salstress...:)
<gopp> CryHavoc lol the good common sense party
<gopp> CryHavoc my calculus professor made a funny, and he consertive
<OcDoc> Cry: you didn't know I was a libertarian? or you're just being silly again? :-)
<gopp> he said if he gave the cl*** 10 usd
<gopp> and divded by the national debt
<CryHavoc> OcDoc....sometimes I wonder is all :)
<gopp> that will aporach zero
<CryHavoc> but ..noted
<gopp> we will aproach zero
<OcDoc> Cry: some issues up for discussion in here are not really libertarian in nature
<gopp> so that 10 usd, devivded by the national debt will be worth nothing to the cl***
<gopp> that is even if the limit is close to zero
<CryHavoc> on the contrary..most have a potential Libertarian slant :)
<OcDoc> Cry: I usually apply a libertarian slant to most of them
<gopp> salstress what have I done that would have me devoicded
<CryHavoc> Social Sec paymnets and liquidity
<OcDoc> Cry: I can't be certain I'm right about all of them, or that there are not a few exceptions to my libertarian bias
<CryHavoc> there prob are...I think the same...
<CryHavoc> but the Demicans nor the Republocrats will not change a thing
<gopp> all partys have problems, but having No party is a bigger problem
<OcDoc> gopp: not everyone in here is used to your peculiar approach to discussion
<CryHavoc> lol
<gopp> OcDoc oh I see, good point
<gopp> that make sense
<gopp> but it was funny, if you divded 10 usd by the national debt
<gopp> your 10 usd compared to the national debt is worth crap
<FaisalAli> hello
<OcDoc> Cry: also, I try to stay pragmatic about international political issues
<CryHavoc> I agree on that as well
<OcDoc> Faisal
<gopp> hi FaisalAli
<FaisalAli> please lets make peace, please stop insulting our prophet
<TheTailor> Howdy Faisal
<OcDoc> Oy, Vay
<gopp> FaisalAli who the prophet
<OcDoc> troll alert
<FaisalAli> if you insult our prophet, we will promote jihad
<CryHavoc> FaisalAli...are we gonna have intelligent discourse.....or more inanity??
<TheTailor> FaisalAli, get rid of the murdering fanatics and we sill, deal?
<TheTailor> err, will
<gopp> FaisalAli my prophet is miss december issue playboy
<FaisalAli> if you insult our prophet, we will promote jihad
<gopp> on the front cover
<gopp> FaisalAli did you hear me
<OcDoc> troll
<TheTailor> FaisalAli, you will do that anyway.
<CryHavoc> TT...Faisal I think is answering.....
<FaisalAli> your prophet is ours
<gopp> my prophet is on the front cover of december issue of playboy
<FaisalAli> he is all
<gopp> FaisalAli prove such illogical view point
<OcDoc> muhammed was an insane jerk and his followers today are also, mostly
<TheTailor> FaisalAli, we don't care.
<gopp> FaisalAli thier no such thing as god
<gopp> FaisalAli he made UP
<FaisalAli> our prophet already gave you a message
<gopp> we don't care for you reglious views
<OcDoc> when will they learn that we don't care if they promote jihad or not?
<CryHavoc> TT Faisal please
<gopp> we belive in scince
<TheTailor> FaisalAli, we are giving you a message.
<gopp> FaisalAli prove thier a god
<OcDoc> if they attack we will defend and attack back, and we will win
<gopp> FaisalAli if you terriost attack us
<gopp> we will kick your ***
<gopp> that simple
<gopp> 10X or 100X
<FaisalAli> we our winning against your satan policies
<TheTailor> CryHavoc, hey, the man wants peace, hear him out :-)
<gopp> we got the ammo and bombs you idiot
<gopp> peace **** peace
<OcDoc> "oh, look at me ... I'm shaking in my boots ... oh, NO, not JIHAD!!"
<FaisalAli> palestine will be free!
<OcDoc> anything but jihad ... sheesh
<starly> FaisalAli, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor )
<gopp> you ran two jets to the towers
<CryHavoc> gracias....
<OcDoc> Faisal: palestine is already free
<OcDoc> oops
<gopp> FaisalAli how about peace, do you treat your females with peace
<gopp> do you
<Airbuster> not free from Hamas
<gopp> you rape and beat your females
<gopp> you talk about peace
<OcDoc> gopp he can't reply he's devoiced
<CryHavoc> keep it up Faisal....
<gopp> OcDoc oh k
<gopp> cool
<TheTailor> Whoops!
<gopp> if the usa, ****s, then why is saddam in jail
<Airbuster> lol
<OcDoc> he was a troll anyway
<CryHavoc> no prompting on that one lol
<gopp> and people of iraq votting for democracy
<TheTailor> Of course he was, they don't want peace
<gopp> CryHavoc wow we should report that ip
<gopp> to homeland security
<CryHavoc> nope...
<h0mi> call the fbi
<gopp> homeland
<gopp> yes
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