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<0> BylL: those same people criticized the US for applying that analogy to Iraq
<1> I mea, why not ? I have no respect for Mohammed. As far as I am concerned he was just another guy
<2> well, when debating over principles, variables do make a difference.
<0> sigh ... a foolish consistency is the hob-goblin of small minds
<1> he's a target for cartoons same as Bush, or Kerry
<3> US-Male, but how to get them recognized, hmm
<4> OcDoc notice how Bush has backed off of Iran and has let others do the dirty work
<3> We need to start a movement
<1> you could make 800 cartoons of Jesus or moses and I would not care one bit
<0> Darth: that's exactly why your definition of "insanity" is useless when applied to politics
<2> Bush backed off Iran?
<0> BylL: it's about time
<3> byLL, who did Bush 'let' do the dirty work?
<5> well, we really don't have the manpower to occupy both Iraq and Iran
<5> atleast not without a draft
<2> OcDoc, and just why is that? to many variables?
<1> but Mohammed cartoons, they get a reaction ! It's comedy gold
<5> oh, that would probably be unpopular
<0> Male: I have no respect for christ either
<1> I don't personally
<6> US: you should see the "cartoons" that the arab papers do publish..
<0> to me he wasn't even just another guy ... I think he was total fiction
<7> Members of the Michigan National Guard will be at the Super Bowl on Sunday to deploy 'sensor fusion', a real-time, IP-based wireless technology that combines readings from portable and fixed devices that can potentially detect terrorist threats. While sensors capable of detecting chemical, biological, or radiological threats have been used at previous Super Bowls, the readings had to be communicated by radio between different security per
<1> I mean I usually don't say that but Moses, Jesus ? Just another guy to me
<8> oh good, I am so glad the news is reporting how we are detecting terrorist activity, again :(
<0> deku: a recent march in DC detectors picked up anthrax spores
<0> salstress: as long as they don't give away technology secrets, it might have a preventive effect
<5> I wonder how good our intelligence is when it comes to pinpointing where the nuke facilities are and having bombs capable of reaching them
<8> hopefully, OcDoc
<6> well, cnn was announcing specific defensive systems for lawrence livermore labs
<2> OcDoc, I find the whole comcept of not being able to use that definition for insanity in politics completely illogical. I guess I am just to stupid. I will continue to use my definition, where it applies, and call Politicians insane
<0> Lupine: not necessarily complete or even correct
<1> all the prophets can kiss my agnostic ***
<0> Darth: I don't disagree with it in principle, just making conversation
<1> =)
<0> splitting hairs and so on
<2> ahh
<2> devil's advocate
<2> I do that sometimes
<0> I like to strengthen our arguments by critiquing them
<2> the best way
<5> Espectro is always popping in and out and never says anything
<5> just something I notice
<0> otherwise they degenerate into mere slogans
<1> he's looking for net***
<2> OcDoc but its got to be ACCURATE criticism, or it does not work.
<5> heh
<0> Darth: well, how do I know it's accurate until you slap it down?
<7> OcDoc some anthrax spores occur naturally
<5> it's been a long time since the last orgy in here
<8> how do you argue against "I don't like Bush. He comes off as an idiot, though he's not, it's just an act. I don't like what he stands for. I am looking forward to the day when the pendulum swings back the other way."
<0> isn't that one of communism's principles? dialectic materialism or some such?
<0> truth arises out of the clash of history
<0> deku: of course
<1> Bush, the Idiot-Genius !
<9> salstress that day may never come
<0> salstress: you can't argue against it
<1> Bush is really Rainman
<10> "I don't like Bush, hes a total idiot, but hes orchestrated elaborate frauds and trickery to fool the American people, damn hes stupid!"
<1> lol
<1> meanwhile he supposedly fooled the person saying that =)
<7> I don't think Bush is the brightest head of state under the sun
<11> they guy fooling people is Teddy Kennedy the killer
<0> Sweet: how is he fooling people? we know every flaw he has
<1> yeah DNC's general platform is that Bush is a total idiot and that he fooled all of them into war
<12> Greetings Earthlings
<0> USMale: I wouldn't want to try and run on that platform
<1> so.... hmm, fooled by an idiot. That's gotta ****
<0> hey Pugs
<1> "Vote for me, I was fooled by that Idiot!"
<12> how's everyone doing today
<5> Bush may be better than Clinton, but I still don't trust him
<0> sixty mile per hour wind gusts ... otherwise okay
<8> Herzen, no, the claim now is that he is stupid and was duped by the real evil geniuses, the neocons.
<5> I like the tax-cuts
<10> there are like 40 seperate claims
<10> from 9/11 was orchestrated by the jews
<1> well of course the truth is, he's not an idtiot, and he didn't "fool" anyeone. Everyone went to war with the same opinions they have now -- the Democrats just lie about their opinions currently
<10> to Cheney is the puppet master
<10> to the Neocons
<10> to Bush is daddy's boy
<10> on and on
<12> hehe
<12> it's all a global conspiracy
<10> The left would be more credible if they stuck to one conspiracy theory
<8> Bush seems to me MUCH more trustworthy than Clinton ever was. Bush has stood by every one of his principles, unwavering. Actually, for his stance on the war alone, I respect him more than I ever did Clinton, and I DID respect Clinton (at the time)
<0> Democrats helf their fingers up to measure which way the wind was blowing and decided not to fall on their swords over that issue at that time
<1> BONESMEN
<5> I respected Clinton in 1992
<1> I used to think Clinton would be better than Perot
<1> but he was never my choice
<6> Yesterday, House Republicans met to elect some new leaders for the chamber. And not surprisingly, the elections maintained the House GOP leadership's pro-gun support.
<6> Newly-elected House Majority Leader, Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio), has long been a champion of the Second Amendment, consistently earning "A" ratings from NRA's Political Victory Fund. The other new member to the leadership team, Rep. Adam Putnam (R-Fla.), who won the contest for Republican Policy Committee Chairman, is also a stalwart defender of the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
<8> I do believe the democrats are at this point trying to regain power AT ALL COSTS, including letting this country go to ****.
<0> Lupine: good
<1> When Clinton took office, I relember saying "Hey maybe he will be good. At least Perot didn't win"
<0> salstress: they don't have that power, fortunately, it's what lost them power in the first place, not being able to deliver on their promises
<1> *remember
<1> 1 year after Clinton took office I decided he just ****ed
<0> USMale: he was pretty good ... he was totally ineffective and therefore unable to **** up the country any worse than it had already been ****ed up
<1> too weaselly
<5> I've also heard Bohner's anti-pork-barrel. I sure hope he does some cleaning up on that front
<1> OcDoc well yes, the effect was good
<8> I don't know. They seem in a good position to just BASH everything that comes along. It is beyond me how people don't see that. That bit in the SOTU where they stood up and cheered loudly because they defeated social security reform was GALLING.
<1> Clinton himself was not so good but he did sign a HELL of a lot of Republican legislation into law
<8> that itself should have angered every american.
<0> salstress: it was a hollow victory ... there IS no solution to Social Security
<13> US-Male...of course....
<0> it was a trial balloon that was meant to fail
<1> almost the entire agenda of Newt Gingrich et al, was signed into law by Clinton
<13> Gingrich left him no choice
<8> OcDoc, I think that's ridiculous
<1> and, that was all good law
<1> or, progress
<13> he welfare reform bill is a good example
<0> salstress: that's it? no reason WHY you think so?
<8> OcDoc, why do I think there *is* a solution to social security? Because I think it is an economic problem and is therefore solvable.
<8> why do you think there is NO solution?
<0> salstress: rofl
<1> I just can't stand weasel Presidents
<13> there is a solution to social security.....
<5> everything has a solution
<8> "I laugh at you because you think social security can be solved" ????
<0> salstress: he went around the country for a few months saying "we need a solution to SS" and then folded immediately the instant the Dems countered it
<13> instead of placing it on 59 million workers...support it with 300 million purchases
<0> salstess: Social security owes far more than it can ever pay without m***ive increases in witholding
<8> OcDoc, I think that is a simplistic description of what happened.
<13> OcDoc..yes a Ponzi scheme
<0> so they will have to take increasing amounts from fewer and fewer workers to pay for more and more retirees
<13> also consider SSI payins are spent as fast as they are collected
<8> no, they could reduce the payouts
<13> OcDoc..that is one thing of many that the fair tax addresses
<0> without a single dollar in fund investments to back it ... there is NO solution to that ... that's why Ponzi schemes are illegal
<14> wtf
<13> unless you are the government
<14> you left wingers want to increase goverment spending to increase social security
<13> gop*!!!
<0> salstress: reducing payouts when more and more retirees are being portrayed as eating dog food?
<14> that idea is stupid
<14> it will just create more people depandent on social security
<14> that is more people will try to milk the cow more
<8> OcDoc, solving the problem and selling the solution are two different concepts.
<14> that is to say not all but yes more
<14> and I tought last year you liberal said thier was no problem with social security
<14> but when al gore ran thier was a big problem
<8> gopp who are you talking to?
<14> make your mind Up
<0> salstress: shrug ... what can I say? if you don't see that it's impossible how can I convince you?
<8> OcDoc, by arguing your point more effectively.
<0> not all problems have solutions
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