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<0> I think we are, but it's certainly different that past wars.
<0> than even, sheesh
<1> TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered the cancellation of economic contracts with countries where the media have carried cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, the ISNA news agency reported.
<2> many of those signs even rhyme in English
<2> hah
<3> yeah.. I have to agree, it is not like past wars.... but I think either the world is going to have to fight the middle east, or the middle east is going to control the world
<4> Middle East isn't going to control the world
<2> "As Muslims we Unite, we are prepared to Fight"
<2> rah rah
<5> Rusty: /Mr_Smithers_Voice_On *excellent*
<4> They're just going to annoy the piss out of us
<6> the Iran president was elected
<7> Muslims can't unite, haven't since c. 720 AD
<0> The middle east, although it's clear they want to control the world, doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell.
<6> Muslims need to be dragged, kicking and screaming all the way, into the modern day and age.
<4> Timur-, right
<0> I don't believe it's any more than a percent or two that are the troublemakers in the Islamic world.
<7> HErz: have you read Deepak Lal's book
<4> nope
<7> 'In Praise of Empires'?.
<2> see I don't mind if someone uses economic sanctions agasint cartoons they are annoyed by
<3> it is a shame, cause muslims contributed quiet a lot to society at one time
<7> it's pretty interesting
<0> It's up to the other 99% to control them, jail them in fact, because they are criminals.
<6> but if muslims feel that the world is against them and it is a global attack on their religion, which is what the terrorist propaganda urges, that would be a strong thing to unite them.
<2> that would be non-violent,. and it is their reasonable right to do so
<3> didn't they come up with 0?
<7> Janet: sure, but things change, faster than ever now
<4> Timur, http://www.ixsys.com/daveb/2006/02/pictures-are-worth-thousand-words.html
<7> no, India came up w/ zero, but the Arabs communicated it to the West
<3> awww ok
<8> hmm...
<8> Money controls the world though...
<0> How so?
<8> What controls money?
<6> surely more rational heads will prevail.
<4> Not oil
<5> oh Nice: CNN.com telling everyone what the defenses are comprised of, at Lawrence Livermore labs.
<8> I dunno...money is definitely leaving the U$A pretty quickly
<0> buymymyth, umm, 75% of the worlds money supply is US dollars.
<4> I read the Zhuangzi
<4> Pretty useless, like the rest of Philosophical Daoism
<7> how/why useless?
<7> I dunno anything about it, just asking
<4> I wouldn't say useless
<4> just impractical
<7> archaic/dated/irrelevant?
<4> Its an idealogy which shuns a lot of things like codified virtue
<9> There's no such thing as "philosophical daoism" ... that idea was discredited about 20 years ago, but thanks for your winning contribution.
<10> http://www.bash.org/?609999 <--- Hahaha, have you guys seen this?
<5> A Bridge Too Far is on today
<0> ZHUANGZI, why? Because you say so?
<4> Timur-, Also talks about wisdom coming from natural action, not learning and education
<4> emphasized in the Confucian tradition
<9> Not to mention the whole idealogy of daoism is based on "uselessness" which makes this all ironic.
<9> Anyway, hello friends.
<4> Wu Wei isn't based on uselessness
<4> Thanks for coming out though.
<4> Wu Wei, or "non-action", is about not taking actions which run contrary to the Dao, or the way of nature
<4> Not literally "uselessness"
<4> Good job, dumb****.
<9> Herzen, You need more than one Chinese Mysticism course in college to be an expert.
<7> Herz: oh, then it would be supported by many here :)
<0> ZHUANGZI, it's likely he's had more too.
<6> how many chinese mysticism courses should a person really dedicate their time to?
<4> salstress, Seriously
<9> salstress, Zero.
<3> ok.. what is daoism?
<6> I'd say 0-1 is ample.
<4> JanetB, Its a Chinese religion
<3> thanks
<7> is it a religion, or more a philosophy, or is that distinction even useful?
<4> It has a pretty weird history, its not very important anyways
<9> I didn't realize how quickly I would be attacked for my nick, my goodness.
<0> Attacked?
<8> I don't really think there's a war....anyway...if you don't think money what its about
<4> Timur-, It becomes a religion later on, it develops its own Pantheon among other things
<7> ah, ok
<0> Hell, if you were under attack it would be for your userid, Jesus.
<4> TheTailor, he was the one who went on the attack, I simply responded lol
<7> didn't realize it was that formally religious
<4> [10:14] <9> There's no such thing as "philosophical daoism" ... that idea was discredited about 20 years ago, but thanks for your winning contribution.
<0> Herzen, so I saw.
<9> Wow, you can cut *and* paste.
<4> Timur-, There are a number of religious movements which seem to meld ideas of Daoism, Confucianism and some Buddhism
<0> Herzen, of course, Jesus has that right, I guess.
<6> zhuangzi=trouble maker
<4> salstress, Just a troll
<4> Hes probably one of those #philosophy rejects
<9> Yes, a troll. Ignore me please and move on.
<4> One of the refugees from when they lost their channel
<7> Herz: gotcha.. the Buddhist contribution is the pantheistic aspect I guess
<3> how come when someone enters a channel and makes a snide remark, and then they are responded to in a manner according to their entrance comment, they then feel they are attacked?
<9> Salstress has many years of devoted #philosophy service.
<6> yeah, now #philosophy should really be called #zane
<4> Timur-, Not really, They developed a lot of their own gods from Shamanism and pre-Confucian/Daoist Chinese nature worship, ancestor worship
<3> do you have so little confidence in your statments, that you must say you are being attacked?
<2> #philosophy is a trolling zone
<6> the history of #philosophy is a good micro analogous example of how democracies are better than dictatorships
<9> Don't be pissy because he took away your +v, salstress. Its time to grow up.
<7> Herz: Tengri shamanism of the Mongols/Central Asia!
<8> hehe you go girl :)
<9> Democracy doesn't work in mental institutions.
<0> ZHUANGZI, see your messages.
<4> salstress, It appears I hit the nail on the head, ZHUANGZI is a #philosophy weiner out for a morning troll
<2> ZHUANGZI needs to lose a v
<6> zhuangzi, I think you should go back to #philosophy. don't talk to me anymore.
<9> <0> We also don't allow all caps here, in posts or nicks, please change your nick to lower case.
<6> yes Herzen. precisel.
<9> You can ban me, I am not changing my nick.
<6> y
<2> ZHUANGZI: more fun to devoice you
<11> LOL
<11> he will last long
<7> so popular, how does he do it
<2> then we can laugh at you, and insult you and you cannot respond
<12> ZHUANGZI, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: ok, if you prefer it this way. )
<7> he's the talk of the town
<2> except in message of course, but we'll ignore those
<7> hm.. /nick TIMUR-HI-ASL
<2> lol
<4> gg
<0> whoops!
<3> I thought he was not changing his nick? hehe
<2> he lied =)
<11> [10:20] <+ZHUANGZI> You can ban me, I am not changing my nick.
<7> I should take a nap, gotta paint soon
<7> bbl. :)
<0> heyyyy, starly banned Jesus!
<13> whats wrong with his nick?
<0> all caps
<11> This place is like one of those cheese like fly traps you hand on your ceiling for idiots
<11> hand = hang
<0> I grr
<13> you guys dont like ALLCAPS nicknames?
<0> kinesis, caps are rude
<4> No, its pretty annoying
<13> oh
<13> i see
<11> its pretty obvious we don't like them
<3> all caps is like yelling at someone
<4> That guy was an elitist anyways
<14> didn't you know....Everytime you use all caps, a puppy dies
<2> lol
<4> An elitist... about ancient Chinese religions...
<4> I'm sure he is using his religion Ph.D to give him leverage to get that manager position and the local Olive Garden
<13> you can be a doctor of religion?
<3> lolol
<3> yes
<13> heh
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