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<0> he has stated his position already
<1> it's not a debate, that's the reality
<1> :)
<2> Thanks rond
<0> Your welcome
<1> rond: this is an interesting article on an Iranian blogger who's challenged the Iranian .gov: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/676697.html
<0> Buy let me tell you a very simple reading formula...feel lucky I am willing to share this. Because its gold
<3> that blogger will be in jail soon
<0> read 30 minutes a day 5 days a week for 5 years on one subject
<0> the average reader will have read 120 books on that subject in 5 years
<0> Now go look around your life and see how many people have read 120 books on one subject....look at the experts on things that you know
<0> thats how simple it is to be a book person, reading doesn't come from a gene
<3> no but genes can be read
<0> heh
<4> i'll hae to invest in eBooks
<4> for the life of me, i cannot stay awake while reading books
<4> regardless of how interesting
<5> hard for me too LaVey
<5> eyes get tired
<4> i can read on a screen all damn day
<4> and i do
<6> I can't stay awake studying, but if I'm into a story I can't put it down
<4> but it's something about books themselves
<7> Hahahahahaha.
<7> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/265798
<2> I don't read much, I just do things
<8> you read at a table or in laying position?
<1> but 5 consecutive hours on irc.. ;)
<2> I learn from experience best...just the way I learn
<2> hehe call it a "vacation" :)
<4> buymymyth: okay, go experience WWII
<1> no reason one can't have both experience and read books
<1> haha
<8> lol
<1> MissL: hi5
<0> Bingo Misslavey
<4> although, TV is great for history
<4> it's nice to have the actual imagery
<8> only for pics
<1> eh, not with nearly the same depth or breadth of facts & analysis
<4> sure there is
<2> I'm not against reading books...but I would rather play Dragon Warrior 8
<1> watching TV to understand things is like eating candy for breakfast
<4> the first hand accounts
<4> multiple perceptions
<1> which books also have
<0> to read 23 minutes a day on WWII for 6 months then watch Band of Brothers as opposed to just watching Band of Brothers are twoooo commpeeltly different expercience
<4> video footage
<2> At this point in time
<1> video footage shows a moment or set of individual moments in time
<1> but doesn't show the context of events and processes
<4> it's far more fun to watch a show about the space race rather than read a book abou it
<1> well, that's part of the problem
<8> if you read a book or just a longer article about a subject and then watch a documentary about it; you'll always thinK: damn, they left out so many arguments, tv just isn't the right format to handle complex subjects
<1> some idea that 'everything has to be fun' all the time
<4> Timur-, it's easier for me to recall facts with tv/movies
<0> I doubt that MissLavey
<2> So if I read the fictional book of say Gundam its better than watching the first movies of Gundam?
<1> really, so, when you took the SAT, your answers came largely or entirely from tv/movies? :)
<4> rond: it is for me.
<2> Which I've done...and its a great story
<2> The movies are better...but it was made that way
<4> Timur-: i neer took the SAT
<1> o
<1> why not?
<4> never*
<4> because it's not the standard anymore
<1> I like neer, it's poetic
<4> the ACT is
<2> IMO....maybe you'll like the books more
<1> ah, ok, then; the ACT
<2> So read Gundam then...
<4> and i still haent taken it
<4> because i didnt start college right out of highschool
<1> I'll be taking the FSE on April 8
<4> i waited a year
<7> HEh.
<7> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/75960
<6> saw "The Man" on DVD tonight
<6> astro: you keep posting that ... what is it?
<4> OcDoc: i just saw ebert and roeper put it on their worst of 2005 list a couple hours ago
<6> MLV: heh
<4> well, it was on roepers worst of list
<6> my wife has questionable taste in movies
<6> but if I want to sit on the couch with her while she eats popcorn, I don't get to choose the movies
<6> Timur: what's the FSE?
<1> Oc: same experience. I barely avoided seeing 'Big Momma's House 2' with her.. :D
<2> You just wann sit on the couch so you get some popcorn too...you're like a puppy
<6> Timur: damn, she wants to rent that too
<6> Timur: wait ... with MY wife?
<1> Oc: got any good video stores w/you? no, with my gf (Magda)
<6> heh
<1> in my area we have TLA video, which has a lot of foreign and indep. movies
<6> my IQ drops about twenty points whenever I watch movies with her
<1> which have some intellectual heft. :)
<1> (generally)
<1> Oc: so she likes comedy?
<6> I've discovered that Lion's Gate films are good and she likes them too
<2> Cinderella Man is a great movie
<1> ah, good
<6> Timur: light romantic comedy ... gag ... or slapstick
<2> IMO
<6> bymyth: yech
<1> Oc: hm.. so she's not intellectual in outlook, I reckon
<6> TImur: heh ... if she can remember the plot at the end of the movie it's unusual
<1> one of my favorite movies is 'Swimming to Cambodia'
<2> Oc: Did she make you watch that too?
<6> myth: watch what?
<2> Cinderella Man
<6> myth: no, that would NOT be her type of movie
<6> did you guys see the footage of the two girls who were rowing across the atlantic and their boat capsized in a storm?
<6> some people are just plain nuts
<6> myth: she thinks boxing is stupid
<2> ocdoc: I think she'd like the movie, even so
<1> trying to remember the last good American movie I've seen..
<2> Because thats the point
<6> myth: I hope I don't get to find out
<2> The woman doesn't want her man to box
<2> anymore
<6> myth: well, yes ... that IS the point ... my wife doesn't watch movies that have "points"
<2> hehe...so she hates ET?
<2> :)
<6> what is ET?
<6> this storm is rocking my world
<6> hard to sleep with sixty mile wind gusts ... I have a noisy house
<2> A story about how we would treat an alien who meant no harm...it actually ripped off "The man who fell to earth" with David Bowie which was from the late 70's
<6> he wanted to get some of our water, right?
<6> all stories rip off all other stories if ET ripped off fell to earth
<2> So you know what ET is then?
<2> hehe
<6> well, there's entertainment tonight
<6> and ed tv
<6> hey, I had three kids ...
<2> Well now you know...which ET I mean
<6> if you analyze stories enough they all cover the same three themes
<2> Go on....
<6> good guy bad guy ... boy meets girl .. and
<6> sorry ... had to sneeze
<8> the good the bad and the ugly
<6> it was a dark and stormy night
<2> So there's good vs. bad, love stories....
<6> anyone think of any other basic story themes I can add to my list
<6> and scary for the sake of scary
<2> Not basic, but yes
<2> There's tradjedies
<6> yeah ... all the others are varieties on those basic three
<2> Hmm...Of Mice and Men is a good one
<6> er variations
<6> well, tragedy isn't a theme, it's a mode or genre
<2> Tragedies
<6> hubris
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