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Comments:
<0> these numbers seem a bit high
<1> Heart disease is very high lung cancer is much less
<0> JMO
<1> I have to d something bbiab
<2> not a total link, but most of it is dishonest.
<3> whats jmo?
<0> Just My Opinion
<3> oh
<3> :P
<4> well, the heart pulls blood from the lungs. polutants in the lungs should effect the heart. yea, there is a connection.....
<2> The real link to lung cancer is not cigarettes, but genetics.
<0> blk, yeh but there is so much BULL**** in the atmosphere who is to say?
<0> it can't be all that black smoke from diesels or car exhaust
<0> NAH!
<0> can't be all those atmosphere nuclear tests
<0> NAH!
<0> its GOTTA be cigarettes!
<5> Russ: wrong, it's in part genetics, which is variable. What's much less variable is the causal effect of smoking
<4> agreed
<5> and other pollutants, of course
<0> now i am not denying that cigarettes are probably a major cause but still..
<0> i have seen pictures of baseball players who have lost have their faces and **** from chewing tobacco
<2> Timur: I agree that cigarettes are linked to bad health and disease; however, many things are, and I dispute how much cigarettes actually effect ones health.
<1> Goddamn it a Video burn was just a tiny bit to short
<1> Im putting in a 8.5 gig dvd
<0> YUCK! FT =(
<0> well now you have a nice coaster hehehe
<1> I should of made it mpeg4 instead of mpeg 2
<1> yep
<0> heheh FT, my grandfather makes grandfather clocks out of them=) uses them as clock faces glues the numbers on and stuff
<1> haha
<1> bbiab
<2> There is also a sociological context to examine, on top of genetic predisposition. For a long time now, maybe 2 or 3 decades, who is more likely to smoke? Usually poor people, and people that are not active and do not take care of themselves.
<6> 314 people pulled out after that ferry sinking in Egypt
<7> Dave Chappelle Walked away from a 50+ million dollar deal for the Chappelle show
<8> I recall reading 1/3 of ANY population will smoke
<9> haha
<2> So you have people who smoke, who already have bad lifestyle that results in bad health and disease. The anti-cigarette propagandists will link all diseases such people get to smoking, if they smoke.
<10> **** dave chapelle
<9> he like 'thats nothin
<11> what, Dave isn't coming back?
<5> so anyway, like, Arabs **** and stuff
<5> bbl
<5> :)
<12> L0c0-, here's the house we're buying: http://batteryparkhouse.blogspot.com/
<2> The dishonesty goes on and on.
<10> how could crack be more important than the chappelle show?
<8> Russ I wonder what the smoking rate is...in Iraq...in Vietnam it was monsterously high
<1> High priority burn do it will go faster
<1> I could lag here
<1> but I am not so far
<1> do = so
<0> RussK, as i was saying the other day, want to get a whole portion of a population against something? hit them in the pocket book, tell them they will end up paying for it in taxes
<8> I still love the Iceland stat
<1> man its faster when you pick high priority
<2> pilgrim: that is correct, and in the United States (now) it is 'very' low percentage; yet we have a much higher percentage of lung cancer than both of those countries, this example is all over the place.
<8> Iceland: homogenious population genetically, and in terms of diet
<1> thats because it gives more system resources to the operation
<8> yet
<12> FreeTrade, you want to see the house we're buying?
<1> Katey you bet
<8> Iceland has always had a HUGE tobbacco consumption
<12> FreeTrade, http://batteryparkhouse.blogspot.com/
<8> up thru the 1930s Iceland's cancer rate was quite low
<1> Going there now
<12> just pics of the downstairs on that
<8> in teh 40s it took a huge leap. Why?
<8> what changed
<12> The second floor isn't as interesting. Just four bedrooms
<1> Beautiful, I love it, It has a lot of character, I hate modern homes so much... This is beautiful
<12> yeah
<12> we really like it
<8> in the 1930s-1940s Iceland suddenly had a influx of diesel fuel and motor powered vehicles
<1> I lvoe the stairway
<1> love
<12> We just need to knock down that awful fence in the front. :)
<6> those muslims should put out cartoons of the Pope having *** with children
<13> hy my name is freetrade and i take the strongest painkillers that exist but i am NOT high or a junkie
<12> And the backyard fence needs some repair
<8> before that, the ammount of petro chem int he local env was quite low
<1> And the heating is much superior to forced air.. Its a little more expensive but the quality of heat is much superior.
<1> Radiant heat is considered the most desirable.
<12> FreeTrade, well, oddly enough, it's a combination
<0> Ahhh forced air
<8> toke you seem quite the fool
<0> ;P
<12> FreeTrade, it has two zone heat forced air and radiator backup
<13> hes so ****in high he didnt see that
<0> toke2 is canary420
<13> lol
<12> sort of an odd mix
<0> and Poliyou
<8> my house has: oil heat, wood stove, electirc and propane heat
<1> Yep, You will need to do some sweat equity but you have a very beautiful house.
<1> You cant copy that today.. My home is the same way only a different style.
<12> FreeTrade, do you know anything about getting the soffits covered with vinyl soffits?
<1> Ack
<13> 426hemi whats it to u punk?
<1> I really discourage it.
<12> Do they cover the exististing soffits or rip it out and replace?
<12> FreeTrade, ah. Why is that?
<14> freetrade, isnt radiant heat.. cheaper over time?
<1> They cover the existing.. Its much nicer if you just redo it
<6> Polamalu tests injured ankle, downgraded to doubtful
<13> 426hemi the pill popping junkie freetrade didnt even notice my comment hes so stoned
<0> other than insulting my friend?
<1> piker no, but its considered the most comfortable heat.
<12> FreeTrade, yeah, but wood soffits need a lot of maintenance, don't they?
<6> er
<6> ignore that
<2> most of the strongest painkillers wont get you high, unless abused (chewed or snorted).
<14> freetrade, im pretty sure its cheaper over time...
<1> Katey get a good painter (An illegal ;)) ok you choose ;) get them to strip it to bare wood...
<0> toke2 he is ignoring you in hopes that you will suddenly grow a brain
<1> seal it with a good epoxy if its damaged.
<12> ah
<12> ok
<8> toke are you normally this rude and insensitive or are you making a particular effort?
<1> use a high quality primer and a high quality paint and its good for 50 years.
<13> well anyway i must be going, goodbye to the stoner junkie freetrade
<2> wtf?
<1> I did that to my house and my eaves are absolutely beautiful
<12> FreeTrade, thanks a lot.
<12> FreeTrade, I'm really a rookie at this stuff
<0> I knew a couple girls named Eve once....
<1> I mean i was able to save my redwood gutters and eveything by using epoxy and high quality material.
<8> Rusty apple polisher ;)
<0> in fact my granny was named Evelyn=)
<0> hehehe
<1> Katey, Listen be careful, Someone who is very good and who knows what he is doing can take it down to bare wood in about a week...
<1> YOu can get it done for $1000.000
<12> okay
<1> 1000.00
<12> that's not so bad
<0> pilgrim a left handed apple polisher to go with the right handed smoke shifter?=)
<2> pilgrim: but anyway, yes, I agree that there is much more to consider when it comes to lung diseases than cigarettes.
<1> and the painting after a good prep is well worth it.
<8> free I have a 1920s vintage garage...well it was a garage, now a woodshed, that is leanign into the wind. One or 2 more years and it will be firewood
<8> Russ I think it is a combonation of factors
<0> haha pilgrim that sounds like my garage! except my garage was an old horse barn converted into a garage
<8> that cigs + petro-polutants are the exacerbating factor
<1> The painting after a good prep I mean is easy, the thing is a lot of guys out there in painting are in for the fast buck, Try to ask around your friends and your knew neighborhood, its purely labor so I would not ask for a contractor.
<8> I had wood skids for the Modle T in mine. all but one was rotten
<0> in some parts of the garage it still has the old wooden floor
<8> I took the good one out and used it to make a woork bench in my shop
<0> planked floor
<1> You will be liable with your home insurance for workers comp but the odds of him falling are low. He does this all the tiem.
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