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Comments:
<0> Linus whined, cried, and left.
<1> he knew he was about to get fubared by the facts
<2> look..if you're comparing deaths from all causes for US troops in Iraq...you'd have to compare a similiar sampling in California..say, law enforcement officers...THEN there might some valid basis for comparison...
<0> after telling FreeTrade he was on a power trip
<3> FreeTrade: He said Hume made that statement? heh. how devishly tactful
<1> HAHAHA
<3> too bad someone was paying attention
<4> IM not comparing anything, I am getting a grip on who said what and why
<4> and I dont see Brit Hume names, I do see the article is credited to Michael Levine.
<0> Publius ayup, messes donkeys up everytime
<2> otherwise you might as well compare deaths on California freeways with deaths in NASCAR races on Sunday...
<0> DeDannan Nascar is in a cl*** all by itself Sir
<3> [11:42] <Linus-> brit humes claimed soldiers were safer in iraq than in CA
<5> A Theocracy would include abortions in murder stats
<2> DarthBurg, my point :)
<6> nascar is in the cl*** of "nobody cares, those who do aren't worthy of life"
<4> It doesnt say so in the article.
<0> DeDannan I agreed with your point couple of paragraphs back...
<4> Brit Humes name is not mentioned with respect to the accurate claim based on the criteria michale levine used.
<1> spark?? uhmm, more people watch NASCAR yearly than Football and baseball COMBINED
<1> next!
<4> It may be a poor choice of comparison, but based on his particular comparison it was true.
<4> at the time
<0> that true?
<7> that's a forkload of people
<0> your kidding me
<2> um...it was broadcast on Special Report with Brit Hume....at least according to the URL's bannerline...
<0> Nascar tops monday night football?
<3> DeDannan: the stat is interesting. I dunno why Linus brought it up...I would guess he would be the one claiming that Iraq was a failure.
<1> darth tere is a reason for that though
<0> always is
<4> IM not judgeing the statement, Its a QUESTION OF WHO SAID WHAT WHEN AND IN WHAT CONTEXT.
<2> Publius, the stat is stupid...not sure why it was cited
<6> nascar is the most pathetic motorsport in existence
<1> Darth last week at the shortest track in nascar 80,000 people showed up to watch the race
<4> I see no reference to Brit Hume, I would like to have it pointed out for me.
<3> [11:42] <Linus-> brit humes claimed soldiers were safer in iraq than in CA
<4> THe story is credited to Michael Levine
<3> OH
<2> FT, see the banner at the top of the URL
<3> in the story
<1> they are expanding the seats to include some 120,000 people in the next couple years
<4> the statment is in a column by Michael Levine
<1> Darth the thing is there is like 35-45 races a year
<1> only 13 weeks of football
<0> ahh
<4> The Banner is an ad for Brti Hume
<4> Where is the quoptation of Brit Hume.;
<0> I think they should do Winter Sports Nascar
<1> not to mention Football runs in the off season of Nascar
<1> mostlyl
<1> darth they do
<1> =)
<0> Ice n snow racing
<6> the average IQ of any motorsport fanbase is directly proportional to the amount of corners the track has
<1> Daytona is run in February
<2> um...it was broadcast on Special Report with Brit Hume....at least according to the URL's bannerline...
<6> until you hit rock bottom, and it ends up with cars going round and round in a circle
<4> No
<4> Thats an advertisemen
<4> t
<1> the last race of the season is in November/december
<3> FreeTrade: maybe he ***umed that the stat was credited to Hume because Hume is credited under the large text at the top of the page?
<4> Brit didnt say it
<4> So I am right
<4> FOX News' Michael Levine contributed to this report
<4> Nothign above it says Brit Hume
<7> what's the url, please
<1> sparkeatr is ~fruitbrut@60-234-159-52.bitstream.orcon.net.nz <--- figures, dude is pissed cause he can't GET nascar in New Zealand, they have to watch sheep races
<4> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95850,00.html
<7> thank you
<6> hahaha
<6> as if you even know where new zealand is
<0> its an island
<1> uhmm believe it or not I do know where it is
<0> in der ocean
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<1> its one of my dream spots to go trout fishing
<7> it's 2 big islands plus some tiny ones
<3> The only thing that I see being credited to Hume is "***ed up" Claims knocked down
<0> in der ocean
<4> To get Brit Humes 2 minute analysis in which he doesnt use his own opinons he reports or he interviews someone.
<1> would love to get to NZ to hook into some of them big german brown trout
<6> we have racing series for rednecks too
<0> racin roo
<6> they go around dirt ovals
<7> this one says "by Brit Hume"
<3> gloriae: scroll down to the second to last paragraph...this is the stat that someone credited to Hume
<4> Airs Weekdays at 6 p.m. ETE-mail the Show: special@foxnews.comBrit Hume's BioGrapevine ArchiveInterview ArchiveMeet the Panel
<4> All links to his program
<1> FOX News' Michael Levine contributed to this report
<4> Rusty, Thats what I am saying..
<7> "california roughly same size as iraq" ?
<4> Now he may not of wrote the paragraph above it, or the story but it has no reference to editor
<1> the thing is, even if Brit Hume did say it, its factually correct
<8> good morning everyone :)
<8> hi FreeMrkts
<7> I see the 'levine contributed' line but it doesn't specify what he contributed
<4> Rusty right, But he didnt say it that has been proven.
<8> oh dang you are freetrade again :)
<8> lol
<7> oh, I see! you have to know and/or care who brit hume is to follow this argument?
<4> And if he did, given how smart and cautious he is, be would of had some contextual reason for saying so.
<2> as Mr Clemens was wont to say..."There's lies, damned lies, and then there's statistics"
<4> Btu there is nothing which indicates he said it.
<9> FreeTrade: seen the senate immigration compromise yet? it's lame
<4> Fairtax, I have heard of a couple versions
<4> did they agree on one ?
<3> FreeTrade: he coulda be referencing this site that I just found after googling half of the paragraph in question. It looks like it to me... http://www.lyingliar.com/media/theview.htm
<4> Does it have a good guest worker program ?
<9> lemme dig the article again.
<1> FT, statistically in the year 2000 in California there was 2079 murders
<4> Publius, but the site he referenced he posted
<10> i heard some gop members of the house saying they wouldnt back down on the guest worker program
<9> not really, they want to keep these 'fines'
<4> and his claims have no validation on that page period
<3> FreeTrade: true. I was getting off track
<4> Hey Comet!
<9> "You are being fined, but its ok to work here.." does that mean I can speed all I want, and just pay the tickets?
<3> He came out of nowhere and insulted you
<8> FreeTrade have you read your email yet?
<3> stupid, and uncalled for
<3> yeesh
<4> I asked people to point out to me where the statement was attributed to Brit Hume, noone has.
<1> which is more than the total number of US troops killed last year in ALL incidents in Iraq, including illnesses, crashes and non combat related deaths
<11> HA
<11> dude
<11> WASHINGTON . Move over Franklin D. Roosevelt.
<11> The 21st century Republicans have outpaced you in federal government spending growth . and it's not a record all members of the GOP are pleased about.
<11> But, not matter how you slice it, federal spending is outstripping economic growth at a rate unseen in more than half a century.
<4> And knowing Brit Hume it would be very unusual for him to make such a statement, EXCEPT on SUnday with Chris wallace where he wears his politics hat.
<3> MikeyD: Don't you dare
<2> MikeyD, no worries..personal spending is outstripping income too...
<4> On his show he interviews, He shows clips, and he asks the panel for thier opinions rarely interjecting his own. unless its a witticism about DC
<2> by some $41 billion last year
<1> Mikey, being that we are in a 3 front war with terrorists, Iraq, Afghanistan, its understandable
<4> Anyway, Move on. not dot org.
<4> He could not back his claim and he got pissed off and left, Leave it at that.
<3> 426Hemi: now you have to say that FDR's spending is understable...trapped
<9> `426Hemi: hitler had trouble with 2 fronts.
<2> last year personal spending outweighed income by such a large margin was in 1933
<1> Publius it was understandable
<8> FreeTrade he does that a lot. Linus loves to leave in a huff :)
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