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Comments:
<0> :P~~~
<1> Publius: what about when we bash them?
<2> Cryhavoc: Why doesnt it work?
<3> Instead of 3% for the rich and 20% for the poor (I know these are greatly exaggerated)
<1> Publius: the thing is, they don't like being constantly told their opinions don't matter because they don't posess nukes and they aren't "the greatest country in the world"
<1> Publius: and can you really blame them?
<4> H2S04: well I said I was joking after you brought it up. There is no problem being playful
<0> because it is not revenue neutral...and would keep in large part the bureaucracy we have
<4> and I conceded the fire arms issue
<1> Publius: I'm not talking about your comment, I'm talking more about
<4> I'm clearly not an angry Bigot
<1> like
<0> he fairtax is revenue neutral
<4> ok...the France bashing gets out of hand
<1> yes
<1> and various other
<1> bashing
<3> A flat tax would solve many problems, except the rich man's greed who's wealth is never good enough for him and wants more.
<0> France needs a bashing,...and a good one
<2> Id watch out for France
<5> le bash?
<2> you never know
<3> The riots have been enough for France.
<4> H2S04: the problem is...most Americans tend to think "hey, we have bailed them out a few times in history, repaid our debt from the Revolution"
<2> Napoleon was a bad***
<4> Why are they sticking their nose at us
<0> the riots are not over there yet...
<0> not by a long shot
<2> and the french helped us gain our independence
<2> we need to be coolw ith them
<4> Blizzil: Too bad he was from Corsica
<6> ..
<1> Publius: they are not required to agree with us no matter what because we helped them
<4> BWAHAHAHA
<0> those french different from ones we have now
<2> Publius: toche :)
<4> H2S04: I didn't say agree...I said stick their nose at us
<0> the ones that helped us in Revolutionary War knew how to fight
<6> i dont know what relevance french culture or american culture 200 years ago has today
<5> le beak
<4> They are free to whatever the hell they want...unless it involves US interests or insulting me online
<4> lol
<1> Publius: france is in a constant state of nose-sticking that is just their culture, it is not personal
<0> 10,000 reasons lay buried in French soil
<4> H2S04: Yes, I know. I am usually the one defending Europe...so stoppit!
<2> Publius : Do you support total 100% funded campaign finance? I do
<0> Publically funded elections...
<2> No
<0> with spending caps
<2> yah
<4> Blizzil: what do you mean?
<2> and airtime
<4> what Cry said?
<2> for nominations
<0> only way we will get any real debate
<1> CryHavoc: that'd be great, then maybe 3rd parties might actually have a shot
<2> yah what cry said
<6> ...
<0> h2so4..precisely
<2> Im actually in agreement with Cry
<2> wow
<4> 1000%?
<2> yes
<2> not one dollar
<2> from a business or private party
<4> That would probably wipe away half of the public support?
<2> no influence peddling
<4> or public notice
<4> when it cmoes to politics
<4> wait
<4> no
<2> Youd run on your issues
<2> and thats it
<6> before talking about other solutions to giving third parties a shot, people should just look at removing repressive restrictions on ballot access and debate entry
<4> Blizzil: you mean like donations from you and me
<2> no political payback
<4> and Cry
<1> Publius: if public notice right now is based purely upon whomever the NRA is giving money to, then we are in deeper **** than we thought
<2> No, have it all paid for.
<4> by whom?
<0> many in this channel think i am too harsh on some issues
<6> cryhavoc is too harsh on some issues
<2> Would you rather it be tax paid? or publically funded by us?
<2> Same thing really
<4> Tax?
<4> Hell fuggin no
<0> I would like to see all the controlled subs they currently do not allow made legal...
<0> so we can kill off the addicts
<1> publicly funded elections would also mean that the politicians had less obligation to corporations and lobbyists
<2> Then you open it up to influence peddling
<1> if they had no obligations, they might actually get some damned work done in the interest of the voters instead of just whoever wants to make money
<0> H2SO4..or no obligation
<4> H2S04: I believe the lobbyists have been corrupted. I think the idea is good in general
<2> Force the networks to give airtime to the nominees and have a govt fund for those nominees
<0> they could seal the border without recriminations
<1> uh...
<2> its the only way the little guy will even matter again
<1> seal the border?
<7> wait, im back
<0> yes
<7> lemme straighten out this bull****
<1> ok that's ...
<4> LOL
<1> forget it
<0> what??
<4> Enough of this
<0> its either seal the border or annex Mexico
<1> a million people, VOTING people showed up to protest sealing the border and you think that's in the interest of the voters?
<2> I dont wanna annex mexico, nasty
<8> hahahaha DeLay gone i told you so !!!!
<4> kinda
<1> annexing mexico might be cool
<6> blizzil. right now candidates are mandated free air time. the thing is, democrats and republicans get 2 hours without doing anything, and third parties have to collect tens of thousands of signatures for 5 minutes
<0> Blizzil..actually we would profit from that
<3> How about building up the border and using leathal force to anyone trying to sneak in?
<2> redfish: yah I hate the 2 party system
<0> Sulfuric one...we have no idea who is entering illegally
<0> none at all
<6> blizzil that was in the mccain feingold bill .. which had many anti-third party aspects to it
<3> Like the Austrian-Hungarian border during the Cold War.
<3> Nobody was sneaking in and out of there.
<0> AlKaiser..lol
<1> CryHavoc: give me a break. If this is the "terrorists might get in" thing, then we have to worry just as much about legal immigrants as illegal, it's not a justification to turn illegal immigration into a felony
<0> careful...or thats the Next EA Game
<3> They had a watch tower almost every 100 feet I think.
<2> Multimillionares account for like a small percantage of us population -- and you need to be a multimillionare to run for high office, which is kind of sad
<0> Border Snipers
<4> Blizzil: I have been told by a few French buddies of mine that they view Napolean as someone who was "spreading the blessings of Democracy" throughout a broken and barbarian Europe shattered by the Dark Ages and Kingdom wars
<4> LOL
<0> Napoleon did create Napoleonic law....
<4> I personally enjoyed the "spreading the blessings of Democracy"
<0> but he also sowed the seeds that led to WW I
<2> Napoleon was a tactical genius
<2> mofo knew how to fight
<4> Blizzil: you ain't kiddin
<0> yes he did
<4> knew artillery better than AEGIS
<2> hehe
<1> also then we should be more worried about canadian border where there is far less guard and a lot more space
<4> Napolean v. AEGIS
<4> who ya got?
<1> so this isn't about terrorism
<0> nope
<0> Canadian Border has a lot more natural obstacles..
<2> The real reason I love Napoleon is he sold us most of the united states
<0> Snow..Wolves
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