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Comments:
<0> StanleyI: Australia could open its doors to immigration from Indonesia.
<1> I know tons of illegals, proabably more than I used to
<1> ;p
<2> arizona's his state, I think
<1> err
<1> not than I used to
<1> but than I realize i do
<3> You cannot pay low wages in Australia ..it is against the law
<1> ;p
<4> occ: I hate to break it to you, but some people like living in Mexico
<5> sure, if you've got money
<4> some Americans even go on vacation there
<6> is this channel like Penn and Teller Bull****! ?
<0> US_Male: People with money.
<5> O, RLY?
<1> US_Male: yah, to cancun
<1> :P
<3> 200 million people in Indonesia and they hate our guts
<5> you guys (and me) were born into privilege
<4> occ: so, you said "we'd all do the same"
<2> for several hours out of any 24, yes, blex`
<4> which is false
<5> lets not pretend we earned it
<5> :P
<7> the main problem with illegal immigrants is that there are millions of people from all around the world who want to work in the US.. but very few of these are allowed in due to immigration restrictions. it punishes would-be americans to let mexicans in unchecked. only a new apartheid wall, self-aware and armed to the teeth, separating the mexicans from america with lethal and static force..
<8> Some mexicans are coming here to work, but some on the other hand are moving here, having kids and getting free money from the government for doing nothing.
<1> I'd do the same
<1> that's for damn sure
<6> is the channel mostly right or lefters?
<8> it's called welfare.
<1> can't speak for millions who I don't know
<2> go ahead and abandon yours, occ, if you have a personal problem with it
<1> but I know I'd do it
<5> if i was born poor in mexico, id sneak in without hesitation
<1> yup
<1> me too occ
<0> StanleyI: Indonesia could invade and colonize Australia.
<4> occ: not all Americans were born into privilege
<2> blex`: leftists think it's far right, right wingers think it's a bit left
<1> which is part of the reason it's hard to make a non-hypocritical stance on this issue. There just is no easy way out of it
<3> Why would anyone want to go to the USA and work for low wages?
<5> everyone here was, though, US_Male
<4> not everyone lives in snooty Connecticutt!
<1> no simple solution, or no solution at all without negative things happening
<5> (myself included, for the record)
<0> StanleyI: Because wages in Mexico are even lower.
<5> none of us were born poor
<2> so are expenses
<4> occ: also false.
<8> i read on this list of countries by unemployment rates, Mexico's unemployment rate is lower then the USA's.
<5> none of us were economically disadvantaged
<4> I myself, was not "born into priviliege"
<5> yes you were
<5> you were born into a typical middle-cl*** family
<7> Alkaiser: in mexico, you can hire a dozen children to work 7 days a week, 18 hour shifts for 13 peso a month
<4> occ: bull****. Not everyone on IRC was born rich
<3> what is middle cl*** america?
<2> occ is talking out his *** tonight
<8> you're exaggerating
<9> occ I was not born into a typical middle cl*** family
<7> Alkaiser: well, or something close. no minimum wage, of course everybody is going to work
<2> surprise surprise
<9> sorry bud
<4> occ: you're lying and you know it.
<5> oh, im sorry
<10> Being born into a middle-cl*** family is not being born into riches
<5> were some people here born into hard times?
<5> maybe i missed it!
<1> i don't believe there is a typical middle cl*** family.
<1> the "middle cl***" is incredibly broad
<4> occ: yeah, kinda
<3> 1 in 5 americans retire on social security alone
<2> he's one of those who's scared $#!+less of the wretched of the earth so he's falling all over himself with guilt and pity and trying to put it off on everyone else
<0> StanleyI: Come to America and find out.
<4> let's say "lower middle cl***"
<10> There are plenty of people that have worked a lot of crappy jobs to get where they are today
<1> and the methods used to measure cl*** are (and need to be) stereotypical
<2> seeing boogymen everywhere
<8> middle cl*** america is a 4 person caucasian, protestant family living in a 4 bedroom house, the parents usually have 30 dollar an hour jobs.
<2> that's in the 1950s, Alkaiser
<3> I have worked in the USA and it is no picnic
<2> a few generations have p***ed since then
<5> nobody here was born after, what, 1940?
<5> anyone?
<0> StanleyI: Where did you work?
<9> occ, glad you think you know what everone here was born into .. heh
<8> The mother of this family usually drives a Volvo minivan and takes her kids to soccer practice.
<9> everyone
<1> in my town, you could have one person whose $200k in debt and making minimum payments and another living next door with half a million in a savings account....and they'd look exactly the same. Nice suv in the driveway, landscaped lawn, painted house with new roof....huge plasma screen in the living room
<8> And they're all so happy.
<5> oh, i know, JanetB :)
<3> Americans do not get 4 weeks vacation with jobs
<1> really can't tell the difference until you look at income & bank statements
<0> StanleyI: I do.
<4> occ: hey retard -- I was born into a less than average-income houseold
<4> they do exist
<5> wow, US_Male
<5> who cares?
<5> you were still middle-cl***
<0> StanleyI: I get three weeks plus the one week between Christmas and New Years Day.
<4> occ: your Mom cared when I boned her
<2> what are you at, there, you want to take this lifestyle away from those who have it and give it to someone who doesn't? how long until you want to take it away from them, too?
<8> define lower cl***
<7> middle cl*** america is a 6 person hispanic family, living in a 400 sq.ft flat in the ghetto (shared with 2 other families) where both parents make 30+$/hr and send back 90 cents on the dollar to mexico, enduring good living conditions by mexican standards
<9> US-Male.. I was not middle cl***
<8> define american lower cl***
<9> not even close
<10> Why do people act like you can't be both middle-cl*** AND hard working?
<4> occ: ALSO, I just proved you're a lying sack of ****
<0> JanetB: Upper crust?
<2> because they're ignorant ****s, bizzleth
<5> becauyse they're posturing, bizzleth
<11> working 9 to 5 at taco bell lower middle cl***
<10> ?
<9> MrRod.. nope
<3> The NYT reports more Americans are now living in cars
<10> Explain please ...
<2> sometimes I don't get people on ignore fast enough
<5> my parents were both lower-middle-cl***, and worked their way up
<0> US-Male's family wasn't rich because their yacht was only 35 feet long.
<12> lol .. glori is picking up our bad habits
<5> i was born upper-middle-cl***, and i wont deny it
<2> hi comet, you bad bad bad influence you!
<4> typical dumb*** right there --->>> [22:44] <5> you guys (and me) were born into privilege
<11> in n out pays 8 bucks an hour, hurray
<5> (like so many here)
<12> hahaha
<9> my parents were poor... very poor
<2> occ's line is "I hate you because I'm scared of poor people"
<10> occ: Go ahead and hate yourself if you wish to
<2> "and you're worse than me!"
<4> anyone who claims that everyone on IRC was 'born into prviliege" is a moron
<5> i dont hate!
<1> what the hell does pirvilege mean? You can be poor in america and still be damn "privileged" compared to other countries
<9> and hubby and I worked our way up to middle cl***
<5> hehe
<12> haha
<7> oh noes, a 35 ft long yacht! how poor are the parents that would give this small a yacht to their daughter! those are no doubt lower cl*** people.
<2> "kill them, not me!!"
<8> the only hard work a middle cl*** person did was being born into an already middle cl*** family and easily affording to go to some fancy college for 4 years, getting a degree and then getting a fancy job as some "computer help specialist".
<1> the average poor person in america can be obese if he so chooses
<8> That's not hard work compared to some other people i know getting payed peanuts.
<2> oh, bull****, Alkaiser
<5> why is it always me against everyone?
<1> that's pretty privilged
<3> what other countries do you compare the USA with?
<9> anyone can be obese if all you eat is starch
<4> just because occ feels guilty for being lazy, doesn;t mean we all are
<1> lol
<0> Alkaiser: Poverty ****s. I don't need any of that.
<1> no personal offense
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