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<0> even the UK is turning into a fascist wet dream, with their video tracking systems
<1> India likes us, THe majority of the people, the Communists and some of the Islamists dont like us coming to India but we are thought of as good people by the majority of Indias Billion people.
<2> Get the age group of these fear mongers
<3> Lupine -- --whispered into the sheiks' ears that they could look forward to expanding their port business into the United States with no problems?
<1> Lupine, My god there isnt anything that isnt recorded there, You take a leak and some guy may be zooming in on your wee wee.
<2> the M15 is pretty cool...
<0> aaa: how would you know that? conducting warrantless eavesdropping are we?
<1> I dont mind electronic monitoring in stores and downtown in commercial areas, I do worry about it at street corners..
<3> Lupine -- My concerns are not hinged on the UAE being an Arab country, but because the nation supported the Taliban government in Afghanistan, has been cozy with Osama bin Laden and has helped launder and funnel money to terrorists and Islamist hate groups.
<2> Aren't the younger generations always more accepting...not always but generally?
<2> We aren't educated...we will be and we won't have the same fears as the leaders of the country do now
<1> There could be a way to monitor with a 4 day loop and that if no crimes occurred the taped would never be viewed and then would be overwritten, it a crime occured like a kidnapping of a little girl then it could be examined.. Such a security device might be helpful in some areas. like main roads etc.
<1> There are ways to be more secure without letting big brother keep an eye on you.
<4> FreeTrade: what if the video from those cameras was public?
<3> Lupine -- The little birdie who whispered into the UAE ear? a few "friends and allies" made big money on these deals, among them George H.W. Bush and James Baker, both known to have a little influence in the White House
<1> What keeps Bush in line besides (I HOPE) his concience, is what he does secretly is monitored by people with security clearance and by select members of congress.
<2> http://poll.gallup.com/content/default.aspx?ci=21625&pg=1
<1> These are the protections you need.
<2> That poll is great
<1> You need to make sure you dotn count out all aids to a better life through security, You just want to prevent abuses.. thats all.
<2> very very detialed
<1> So people should give it thought.
<2> detailed
<2> ALSO
<2> That ***hole teacher on tv today
<0> AAAman: again, how do you know what they "whisperd"? were you spying on them?
<1> 1 chidl murderer was convicted on the basis of a tape of him grabbing her.
<2> that's the kind of BS we have gotetn in schools for the past 10 or so years
<1> So they have their uses.
<2> gotten
<5> uh... Bill Clinton is all over that UAE deal
<3> The port deal is on hold for a while, but Bush will ram it through eventually.
<1> A lot of them can be made to loop, no problem nooone sees the tape.
<1> major crime ? The tape is gone through for evidence.
<3> Why? The ***ociated Press reports the company did not even encounter the routine restrictions on a foreign company seeking approval for U.S. operations.
<0> AAA: nice.. "allowing the agencies involved with overseeing corporte aquisitions do their job " = "ram it on thru
<6> AAAman, there won't be any ramming it through at all, they congress will see it for what it is, a solid business deal.
<1> AAAman, the way clinton rammed through the sell of the Panama Canal to China ?
<2> AAAMan: Did the Ap tell you what those routine restrictions?
<1> Arguably a much more sensitive security deal
<2> aer
<0> AAA: gee, I ****ing wonder why.. maybe it is because they have ALREADY p***ed countless security checks.. you know, they service our warships?
<1> Waint not even arguably
<1> it was a much more sensitive security deal
<0> Publius: AAAMan is just jacking off, and seeing what spews out
<1> But have we had any problems with china ?
<1> NO
<7> O'Reilly thinks freshmen in highschool are 12/13/14 yo
<7> what a ****tard
<1> Dubai compared to china is like our best friend.
<3> Lupine-- "The administration did not require Dubai Ports to keep copies of business records on U.S. soil, where they would be subject to court orders. It also did not require the company to accommodate U.S. government requests. Outside legal experts said such obligations are routinely attached to U.S. approvals of foreign sales in other industries," AP reports
<1> China is still more totalitarian though hopefully changing
<0> lith: eh? I was 13 and a freshman
<2> hahahaha
<1> AAAman, Bush didnt have anything to do with it.
<2> Bill Orielly is judicial activist
<8> I think we need to let Bush do whatever he wants. Even if he wants to nuke the entire United States, we should let him do that.
<2> apparently
<0> AAAman: um, who are they quoting?
<1> 50 of these transactions happen a year and we never hear about it.
<1> One brings up alarm bells because they are arab
<5> If you want to secure this country, round up the libs
<7> Lupine: pretty much all freshmen are 14/15
<3> That did not happen because the skids had been greased for Dubai Ports World
<0> Lithium: what backwater town are you from?
<1> Duncan Hunter the Republican Is going to get a mean letter from a fellow republican soon for his xenophobic bull****.
<0> AAAman: very poor journalism.. "quoting" someone without even saying who they are quoting
<1> What are we going to do breach our contracts with every foreign company with an investment in all US ports ?
<9> freetrade, you don't think there are any legitimate concerns over this deal?
<10> BillFrugg if you want to secure this country from fascists, you'll round up people who says things like "if you want to secure this country, round up X"
<1> What if foreign countries stopped investing in the USA tommorrow ?
<7> Lupine: kids go to school at 7 years old, how old are they in 9th grade?
<7> math problem
<1> Ill Tell you what our economy would be devestated.
<0> ThePixies: ah, but are they concerns by the appropriate people?
<2> watched*
<0> Lithium: what ****ing backwater town are you from, that kids start school when they are 7?
<9> lupine yes, theres quite a few republicans that are unhappy about this too
<1> Foriegn investment floats our economy and has for half a century
<2> Lupine: Most freshman are 14/15
<5> The only fascists I'm aware of are the bozos in Maryland who create targetted legislation agains Wal-Mart
<7> Publius: no ****
<0> ThePixies: I would say, those who did not know of this deal ~5 months ago.. have no legitimate concerns today
<2> I'm not supporting you just yet
<2> I'm just clearing the age issue up
<9> and who really knew about it five months ago? its secrecy as always
<2> haha
<9> and why is this so important
<2> sorry
<1> I did not allow my kids go to school till they were nearly 7
<0> Publius: well, I am waiting to see what evidence lithium offers up, since it is against my own personal experience
<1> So my daugher is virtually striaght A
<9> bush threatened to veto any legislation against it and then claimed the next day he just learned about it
<0> ThePixies: Um, it was *REPORTED* five months ago, dumb ***
<2> Lupine: What age do you understand freshmen to be in general?
<1> Has oen two National writers awards as best writer.. Her first one at 13
<1> She is 15 now
<9> thanks for the random insult but it wasnt widely reported
<1> The best way for kids to learn ?
<1> Let them play
<1> You can play with educational stuff and mix it
<0> Publius: I can only speak from experience. That would be 13 or 14
<1> But dont put pressure on them, let the poor things be children, keep them free for 6 years to be educated by the world..
<2> Lupine: Very few kids are 13 in the 9th grade anymore...new dare cut offs
<3> FreeTrade -- U.S. has the safest economy in the world. They cannot afford to stop investing
<1> Then put them in a box called a school and brainwash them
<2> date
<10> you can learn a lot on the streets in the first 6 years of your life
<2> Lupine: but if you are in the west coast?
<11> AAA: heh safest economy for inflation.
<1> AAAman partially true, but the fear isnt them stopping investment, its us not allowing them
<0> pub: eh? I was east coast
<1> Xenophobia
<2> oh
<2> well age has increased overtime
<3> FreeTrade -- We can pick and choose . We are in the drivers seat
<2> I've heard
<2> and agree with it
<1> The proposals by Senator Hillary is to stop all foreign investment in ports.
<12> Shes an idiot
<8> Education is for Liberals. I would never go to school.
<2> FreeTrade:
<11> rest in peace - harry browne
<12> UAE is fine
<12> If its not UAE
<12> Its Singapore or China
<3> FreeTrade -- Europeans are the biggest investors by far. This is small potatoes
<12> Since thats the other 2 major port companies
<2> FreeTrade: an Israeli official sent her a letter asking her to support the deal even though Israel is under a boycott
<12> Since UAE is buying the UK port company
<1> Ive got to go You guys debate it, argue it and if you agree with me, send Republican Duncan Hunter a letter and tell him hes an anti capitalist ***hole pretending to be a republican because hes a xenophobe about foreign investment.
<0> publius: well, one is not a "****tard" to know that there are 13 and 14 year olds in the 9th grade. which means, graduating at 16 and 17. college at 18
<2> HAHAHAH
<13> I am going to post something something a little long
<2> Lupin: IM SORRY...did he call you a ****tard?
<14> Good evening everybody, how we doing tonight efnet #politics?
<1> AAman, You dont get it, there bill is to kick EUROPEANS out too
<13> it might knock off some folsk if they meet the criteria of this article
<15> THERE IS NO NEW WORLD ORDER
<2> ...
<11> I heard a lame conservative talking point on the dubai port's world today: radio blowhard was suggesting that the UAE can't be trusted because they don't recognize Israel's right to exist... which is asinine since China controls the longview port and they don't recognize Taiwan's right to exist.. ah well
<16> yes torm, I agree
<16> :)
<11> typical hypocracy
<13> Symantec's Norton Firewall and Norton Internet Security Suites to knock users offline in IRC channels, according to an amusing post at Washingtonpost.com. From the article: 'Turns out that if someone types "startkeylogger" or "stopkeylogger" in an IRC channel, anyone on the channel using the affected Norton products will be immediately kicked off without warning. These are commands typically issued by the Spybot worm, which spreads over IRC and peer-to
<17> ban evasion
<0> anti: right, we even have some on here who argue that it is wrong for foriegn companies to control US ports.. ignorant that china/etc already do so!
<16> people can't get along well enough for such an idea to occur
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