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<0> man we got some HUGE HUGE maples
<0> ohh yuck
<0> nah the ones we got are one HUGE trunk takes 3 people to get your arms around it
<1> we have to decide what to do about the madrona trees tho ... those are very pretty
<0> one of my favorite trees is Birch
<0> white birch
<1> Hemi: the maples and alders here squeeze out the evergreens
<0> the gold birch burns good though and smells soooooo nice
<2> http://onlyinisrael.blogspot.com/
<1> Hemi: we had a ton of old apple trees ... man does THAT smell good burning
<0> the gold birch look kinda ugly though
<0> ohoh hell yeh
<0> apple smells delicious
<1> the old orchards get taken out and they get rid of the logs to anyone who wants them
<0> ok what the hell is a TSgt?
<0> Technical Sarge?
<1> tech sarge
<0> ok..
<0> they keep switching the ranks around apparently
<1> Hemi: yup
<1> I ended up a Spec4 before I got fed up and ETS
<3> hrmmm
<1> ETS = ended, terminated and separated
<1> ;-)
<0> ok
<0> what the hell is a specialist is that like a corporal?
<3> that is some **** only the Army seems to do ...and the Air Force
<1> well, four is a corporal ... 5 and 6 would be sergeants
<0> man they need to design a special school just to learn ****ing ranks
<3> at least with the USMC, no need to guess
<1> Hemi: they don't want the enemy to figure out our system, see?
<3> mot with USMC
<0> hehhe Cry, in the marines its mostly who can yell the loudest ?
<0> OcDoc Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<3> pvt PFC lance Corporal Corporal Sargent
<0> Ocdoc so that way if they are captured
<3> staff sgt gunny sgt master sgt master gunny sergeant
<0> ok, THAT makes sense
<1> army is pvt, pfc, corporal, sergeant ... or pvt, pfc, spec4, spec5, spec6
<3> spec crap is confusing to me
<4> I was a spec 4
<4> (3 years only)
<1> Cry: it's just an alternate track for technical peeps
<3> of course all Marines have one primary specialty....
<1> to keep them separate from the real killers
<0> i get the specialist stuff now
<4> same pay as a corporal
<1> you gots the guys what does the killing ... and the specs stand by and hand them the tools
<3> over the river and through the woods and across the stream and up the cliff and under the bridge....spill victor Charlies guts...then walk away
<1> I was 91C2R
<1> sound off ... one two
<5> i like how the marines no longer use LINE fighting, since it was too violent. now they use another form of martial arts that is much nicer to the opponant, and doesn't aim to kill.
<5> that's hilarious
<1> Zaw: haw!
<5> and sad
<6> canadian officials take 17 people int custody in suspected terrorism plot
<3> here ye go peeps...
<3> everything you don't want to know about US Military ranks
<3> http://www.easternct.edu/personal/faculty/pocock/ranks.htm
<0> OcDoc were you a medic in the military?
<3> be advised that 5 Star designations usually only during wartime
<5> bmc: those damn farmers are TERRORISTS!
<0> yeh i knew that part
<2> The detained suspects are all men, Canadian residents "from a variety of backgrounds" and followers of a "dangerous ideology inspired by al Qaeda," said Luc Portelance, ***istant director of operations for Canadian Security Intelligence Service, in a news conference.
<0> i forget who was the last 5 star
<0> there was one after Eisenhower but i forget who
<2> The charges include: participating in terrorist group activity, including training and recruitment; the provision of property for terrorist purposes; and the "commission of indictable offenses, including firearms and explosives in ***ociation with a terrorist group."
<2> yeah, they're farmers.
<0> Timur, we have a group here near Binghamton i wished they would investigate to the hilt
<2> call the relevant authorities, then
<0> we have
<2> ok..
<0> the FBI and state troops all say "Yeh we know about them"
<0> *click*
<0> haha
<0> you should see what they do though
<2> then one would ***ume they're already being investigated. :)
<2> what?
<0> 1 guy, 3 wives, 20 kids
<6> all that from attempting to purchase a large quantity of ammonium nitrate
<0> show up at the emergency room
<0> use all available services
<6> wonder what the other charges stem from
<0> its amazing
<2> bmc: no, that was one of several charges.
<0> all on welfare
<6> so they have actual evidence of planned terrorist attacks?
<2> I'm sure we'll find out over time. Not the first time Canada has had people who were arrested, with full justification, for terrorism.
<0> then drive away in a big giant caddi or new suv
<2> like the Algerian who was going to blow up the Space Needle in Seattle
<1> okie ... back to work
<2> in 2000
<0> DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - A judge has ruled that a Bible-based prison program violates the First Amendment's freedom of religion clause by using state funds to promote Christianity to inmates.
<0> Prison Fellowship Ministries, which was sued in 2003 by an advocacy group, was ordered Friday to cease its program at the Newton Correctional Facility and repay the state $1.53 million.
<7> Shame, could've helped the inmates
<2> what stupidity.
<2> rond: exactly
<0> this will just increase calls for prisons to be run privately
<0> i am EXTREMELY against privately run prisons
<2> that's the trend though
<7> Yeah, I am for privitization but prisons.. I dunno
<2> record growth. .aren't some of the companies even publicly traded?
<8> several states/localities already contract that out
<9> http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=800111 <--- I wrote a bit of a thread on the "violent death rate" BS that seems to be circulating
<9> quotes, links and everything
<6> thats nonsense
<6> freedom OF religion != freedom FROM religion
<6> also congress != state
<8> that is so dumb.... the state worrying that "oh no someone might teach the bible to prison inmates"
<2> I agree
<2> course, then, to be fair, should other religions have equal funding?
<2> and other such issues
<6> if there is equal demand
<6> which there wont be
<0> i dunno, privately run prisons are to likely to promote corruption
<6> facts are facts
<0> if a state makes something illegal they should have to foot the costs of making that thing illegal
<6> over 65% of the population is christian
<8> I dunno .. state funds, they may be able to demand proportional funds
<8> really I'd prefer that it be private funds
<6> states and even the federal government are allowed to promote any religion
<6> they just cant legislate on it
<0> state run prisons helps keep the lawmakers in check
<6> thats the extent of the separation
<2> you don't know what the demand is.
<6> allowing government monies to faith based organizations isnt establishment of religion
<0> see with privately run prisons i believe that would only make it so that lawmakers could be lobbied to make things illegal, the more people you put into the private prison system the more money they make
<2> a lot of people born christian turn to Islam in prison, for example
<8> after the butt***
<2> proportionality is irrelevant
<0> so it gives incentives to the private companies to lobby for things to be illegal
<8> lol
<8> j/k
<8> I think many guys in prison turn to whichever group they hope will protect them
<0> thats like these damn homeless shelters i used to go to when i wasa kid
<8> blacks turn to black group. whites turn to KKK
<0> they practically promote homelessness
<8> Nation of Islam etc
<6> well if there is a large number of people who wish to participate in a specific religious course, and maybe a handful of people want to participate in a diff one
<0> so they can obtain more money
<6> which one should receive the majority of said monies?
<2> maybe none, hence the ban
<6> if there isnt a demand at all it would be a waste of money
<9> meh nobody cares about all my hard work
<9> haha
<2> Media reports Saturday alleged that the suspects engaged in terror training camps north of Toronto. It was further alleged that the group was plotting to attack targets in Toronto, including the headquarters of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
<6> shouldnt attempt to force it on them
<2> yeah, they were farmers
<2> right Zaw?
<9> i really think canada is the next target
<0> thats another dude i keep on ignore
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