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<0> Or they always need more on friday
<1> forest gnome , come on home , hide behind the tree
<0> There are very clear signs of addicts, even looking at them you can see addiction sometimes.
<2> Free I have a neighbor 48 year old business man, 7 back surgeries, got addicted to a morphine pump....he was on the show interdiction
<3> FreeTrade, if you're taking a painkiller constantly, there is no more to need.
<0> PO, Its not an addiction if its a therapuetic need, people go on and off morphine so easily I have noticed who have back pain. I watch them all the time they go off morphine get back surgery..
<0> Then they are worse than before.
<0> so they go back on morphine and then someone suggests epidurals..
<0> And they go off agains and try epidurals and 6 months later they decide they dont work well enough
<0> and then they go back on.
<0> PO, Study addiction and pain control
<1> neil cavuto always has stories about lingerie models
<0> I used to be an addiction counselor, addicts are very easy to spot.
<0> children shall not play here!
<2> Well I had withdrals last year two times, one when I went off of Vicodin (sythentec morphine isn't it) and another when I went off of darvocets
<2> wasn't bad but I had to adjust
<3> Darvocets?
<2> Yep
<2> and my doc pulled me off of those and they worked better than the vicodin
<0> With Rush Limbaugh Either they didnt give him enough pain killer to begin with, and he just wanted pain relief, or he got addicted, hes the only pain user i know of who might be addicted.
<3> FreeTrade, I think there's very little question that he was addicted.
<0> The thing about chonic pain is its an art as much as a science, different things work for different people.
<4> but he's Rush Limbaugh!
<0> And sometimes nothing works.
<0> PO, there is a lot of questions.
<4> is our children being educated?
<2> Mine is
<0> PO before being prejudiced (Pre Judging) study an area of research very thoroughly
<4> haha .. good
<0> My sister is a pain specialist who teachers other nurses and doctors about pain control..
<5> Heh... subtle Bush joke.
<0> She taught me alot, and i have done a lot of reasearch myself, a friend of mine on this channel was a researcher on pain medications and he taught me a lot. And using many methods to try to deal with my own pain taught me a lot.
<0> Walk in an indians mocc***ins for a mile and then tell us what its like.
<2> Well after my expecience with the pain I had your an idiot to question, make fun of say derogatory things about people trying to deal with long term pain
<3> FreeTrade, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion and being a layman, so long as you know that you are one.
<0> PO, I know you are smart
<2> long term chronic pain is very serious business for the person dealing with it
<0> be very careful not to get caught up in defending opinions before you really study them.
<4> FT: exactly the message to Rush before he was addicted
<4> and was going on and on about it
<0> rond, last might my wife rolled over in bed and I gave out a OUCH
<0> AHHH
<0> Argggh
<0> Pain
<0> thats how ****ing sensitive it can get.
<6> what is the name of the movie that was created late 80's early 90's about a monster worm's that sensed vibrations and would then eat people?
<0> I tell you ive been woken up in the last 10 years or so.
<5> brinstar... Tremors
<7> know what I like? all the people who say there drug free while they down their painkiller cocktail
<2> Back pain is pretty serious pain to deal with...
<5> Staring Kevin Bacon
<7> pain killers = stoned
<7> period
<0> Rush, may of because of his body weight not got enough thrapuetic pain medicine..
<0> I dont know\
<5> Tremors: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100814/
<0> I cant pre judge him
<0> he had severe pain
<0> Very severe
<2> glad I don't deal with it...think about it though every time I swing a club from the loins trying to get an extra 15 yards
<0> The original doctor may of been ****ty
<4> have
<0> he probably should of been on Fentaynl patches
<0> much stronger than morphine
<4> have.
<7> if u take painkillers u are popping pills that make u stoned
<1> the original doctor who
<7> call yourself addict or dont
<0> If you will notice while he was allegedly addicted he wasnt sluring his speech or losing intellectual acumen.
<4> he had intellectual acumen?
<0> Yes he did Timur and you know he did.
<4> yeah, he did
<4> but terribly misused, often
<0> He didnt turn me on because i am at a much higher intellectual level, but what I know of him he was pretty smart.
<8> canary420 if u take painkillers u are popping pills that make u stoned <--- the idiocy of those who are uninformed
<4> smart but often deceptive
<7> lol
<9> Dune was early 80's wasnt it?
<7> whatever stoner
<10> every one here is a stoner
<7> keep popping those pills 'for the pain'
<10> pill poppers are stoners
<7> and tell urself u are not getting high
<0> His satire was his satire, I say I listened to him maybe 5 times in my lifetime 2 times he was making very good arguments on behalf of the benefits of immigration on one occ***ion and on health care programs for the poor in another program, which surprised me
<0> I heard he was far right.
<0> So I was very surprised he supported welfare health care for the very poor and he was pro immigrant.
<9> there should be smokable painkillers (other than weed).
<7> there is
<10> u can smoke H
<9> i know livers need abusing and stuff, but seriously
<7> opium
<0> Smoke is bad for you lungs,.
<10> smokeing drugs is fun tho
<0> Well ironically the safest pain killer as long as you dont overdose and have respiratory failure is opiates.
<10> yes
<7> thats right, take your dope
<7> er, painkiller
<0> They cause the least intellectual dysfunction and phyical dysfuntion.
<8> canary420 whatever stoner <--- uhmm get a grip **** head I don't use pills
<0> Alcohol is a pain killer it works good
<0> but it gets you ****ing drunk and plays hell with your liver.
<0> And alcoholism is horrible.
<7> ok drunk
<10> i disagree
<4> wow, irc can be depressing
<8> i don't even drink THAT much
<8> heh
<7> sure
<8> now run along child
<0> Its not dope if its therapuetic and monitored by a physician.
<8> and go do a bong hit
<10> if alcoholism is bad, than its the best bad i have ever known
<8> while you sit here and condemn everyone else for what THEY do
<4> 2 of the 5 channels I'm on are or have recently had convos dedicated to drugs/alcohol
<0> Dope is a drug you abuse to get high.
<7> if i do go for a bong hit at least im no hypocrite
<8> ohh really?
<0> Timur its a very popular topic ;)
<10> drugs a re a popular subject matter
<3> Timur-, so how about them drugs!
<10> its because a lot of people use them
<8> while you sit here and condemn everyone else for their "drug of choice"
<7> like the pill poppers who say they arent druggies
<10> and do not admit to it
<8> take your self
<8> mister 420
<0> Rusty I am not condeming anyone, I have good friends who smoke weed to get high, Thats their decision half the ****ing US drinks wine to calm down.
<8> heh yer about 15 minutes late
<0> I dont care
<8> F i am talking about canary420 here being a ****head
<0> I just decide for myself I dont want any alcohol, tobacco or pot.
<0> I do not life the feeling of being high
<7> i condemn no one for popping drugs idiot, i condemn the hypocrites who try to say there NOT druggies when they pop pain killers
<0> I like to feel sharp and in control of myself.
<8> canary420 if u take painkillers u are popping pills that make u stoned
<8> heh
<8> get a clue
<10> a pill buzz can be called stoned
<0> Canary, Define druggies ?
<0> My dad and his blood thinners ? Hes a druggie ?
<7> freetrade those who pop pills that affect the conscousness
<0> You dont get high off morphine when you use it long term for pain.
<10> narcotics and recreational drugs
<0> Thats a fact
<0> You do not get high
<7> those who take anything that affect conscousness
<0> And they are safer.
<7> are druggies
<8> aspirin effects the conscience dumb ***, as does coffee
<7> including the painkiller ppl
<8> as do cigarettes
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