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<0> people who think that criminals are created solely by unjust societies are way off in my opinion
<1> it's that damn gray-on-gray crime
<0> Timur: well, yes ... I think about two-thirds of the things listed as crimes in this country shouldn't be crimes in the first place
<2> well...blacks serve for the purpose of freedom...just as the whites...and lincoln gave us the priviledge to do so in a domestic war
<1> you're just saying that because of your flagrant jaywalking
<0> Timur: heh ... jaywalking isn't a crime
<3> haha flagrant jaywalking
<3> it can get you a ticket
<0> it's disorderly conduct
<0> crimes are abuses that are punishable by confinement
<0> or very large fines
<3> very large is relative
<0> horace: yes
<0> and it's set by the legislatures
<2> if crime has no definition any more...than neither does justice
<2> i see a race and people of chaos



<3> perhaps fines should be set as a percentage of your net worth
<3> heh
<3> jk
<0> well, I better get back to bed ... yawn
<0> I sure think Alito missed the boat on his first case tho
<0> read about the case he let off the hook ... dumb ****
<2> hes human
<2> ive let alot of things go in my life as well
<4> Doc: I doubt Alito had time to review the case completely.
<0> that's part of the problem ... justice should not be HUMAN it should be FAIR
<2> govt by the people for the people
<3> alien justice?
<0> Astro: the basis of the appeal was bull**** ... how long does it take to determine that?
<2> i dont get alien like thoughts
<2> nobody is alien in a govt by the people for the people
<0> how many times does the SC have to review whether death by injection is cruel and unusual?
<3> nobody is alien.
<2> agreed
<0> g'nite
<2> to judge is jewish
<2> and they are great at it
<2> u can be a good judge and not judge
<3> is that a judgement?
<2> now its philosophy
<1> my students are generally pretty good at it, largely because their study of torah and commentaries are so heavily legalistic in framework and in the nature of the whys and wherefores
<2> i think its all one subject however the fine lines can be seperated
<1> damn, bodies seen floating on Red Sea near where that cruise ship disappeated
<2> nothing wrong with humans...just something different about jewish people
<1> I disagree.
<1> no more different than any other group from another
<3> what do you mean? name some examples of how jewish people are good judges. why do they make good judges?
<2> its a history lesson
<2> i believe in history
<1> not sure what that means
<5> judge judy is a fantastic judge :P
<1> MissL :)
<1> in Russia, history believes in YOU.
<5> but i doubt it has anything to do with religion
<6> judge judy is a stupid bitch
<2> i believe that history tells a tale about jews that seperates them from most humans
<3> what is their distinction raggr
<6> oh shut the **** up you putz
<1> raggr: perhaps, but then there are a hell of a lot of Jews who are fully ***imilated. If it's a reflection of anything, it's cultural
<2> lots of slavery
<1> slavery?
<2> you only keep something in slavery when u cant control it
<3> history believes in you? that's a rather strange statement
<3> i like it
<1> so like.. Greece, Rome, Babylonia, Arabs then and now, and Europe before c. 1750...
<1> horace: just a pun. :)
<2> why does a man like hitler wake up one day and hate jewish people?
<1> raggr: oh, you want to get into an in depth analysis of historical antisemitism?
<1> obviously it wasn't spontaneous as you seem to imply.
<2> i dont...history explains itself...its not a picture u can paint over again
<2> it is what it is
<1> no, it doesn't. History like any deep and complex (set of) process(es) requires analysis for understanding.
<2> yes it does
<2> we agree
<2> as we make history
<1> that's an ahistorical viewpoint.
<1> I don't agree with your statement. :)



<3> Hitler belongs in the category of the truly mystic medicine man. His body does not suggest strength. The outstanding characteristic of his physiognomy is its dreamy look. I was especially struck by that when I saw pictures taken of him [Hitler] in the Czechoslovakian crisis; there was in his eyes the look of a seer.
<1> it's not a question of 'painting over' but of gaining insight into
<2> thats fine but history is what it is now
<3> sorry, just had to paste that
<2> its laid in stone
<1> a seer.. or a demented maniac
<1> raggr: that doesn't provide any insight.
<2> i dont segregate myself on purpose from a race of people that were more persecuted than my own
<1> there are events, then there are understanding how those events came to p*** and why.
<1> nor do I
<1> nor do most Jews
<1> nor most people I know generally
<2> guess you didnt see any conentration camps
<2> focus now
<1> huh?
<1> I think we're talking past one another. I have relatives who died in those camps.
<2> what makes a man put a jew in a position like that
<1> I fully acknowledge their existence
<6> **** all you stupid ***holes
<5> i do also.
<1> raggr: http://www.humanitas-international.org/holocaust/antisem.htm
<5> it's not something to oke about.
<6> why don't you shoot yourself
<2> you dont fully acknowledge a jew
<5> my grandpa died when he fell from the watch tower.
<1> raggr: I do, as I'm Jewish.
<1> so..er.. :)
<1> not sure what you mean
<2> timur...you only prove my point more
<1> what point is that? :)
<6> **** your grandpa
<1> it's terribly unclear to me
<6> and the watch tower
<1> U****: dude, take yer meds
<2> you dont acknowledge a jew
<2> a jew is a jew no matter waht
<2> what
<1> raggr: what does that mean?
<3> a human is a human is a human
<1> I'm Jewish, I'm American, I'm a teacher, I like rock n roll, I like sushi.
<2> timur u know what it means
<1> right
<1> no, I really don't.
<6> a putz is a putz is a putz
<1> haha
<2> so jews are not persecuted?
<6> **** you means **** you means **** you
<6> **** you horace, **** you horace, **** you horace
<2> Timur u put urself there
<2> and did it wise like
<2> i feel your pain
<6> i'm a genius i said it three times
<6> i should be famous
<6> i would be famous if i was a dumb nigger and I did that
<7> Racist or foul Language or Spam
<3> i have no idea what you're talking about either raggr
<5> me 3.
<5> i think he's just a pseudo-intellectual ;\
<2> no one here agrees that jews are always at war?
<2> whether victim or conqueror?
<5> no.
<2> ok..
<8> I think that you should make a distinction between judaism and zionism
<6> why?
<2> does iran hate israel?
<2> like that guy in power over there
<2> does he wanna nuke israel off the planet?
<1> my only pain right now is trying to figure out what you're talking about. :)
<1> raggr: people generally are at war
<1> look at the history of.. well, pretty much everywhree
<3> i'd ***ume that a substantial portion of iran's population would agree with him
<5> if Timur- feels like a victim, i hope he shoots himself :(
<1> Sparta/Athens
<6> didn't Bush tell us Iraq had a nuclear bomb?


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