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<0> hrm ok getting a picture of it now
<1> Cry and Nemes apparently believe that the far left propaganda machine should be active in Africa as they have been for decades as the situation goes bad, they just need more leftwing propagandists and bull****ters and more money.
<2> in fact i bet some states do, i am almost positive NY does
<3> I loaded BeOS on a dual 604 box and it screamed
<2> in some way or fashion
<4> FreeMrkts..do not tell me what I believe please
<5> i used to be into BeOS
<3> Thelema
<5> it was kinda osx before osx
<1> And the Religious Right who I often disagree with us doesnt have any part of the picture correct, not even the incest rates.
<4> I am for cutting off all Aid to Africa
<3> agreed
<6> naw.. NeXTstep was that ;-)
<7> ha
<3> I am for cutting off al aid period
<1> I am not for cutting off aid to africa but I would first teach them moral and ***ual responsibility



<5> im for cutting off all AIDS to africa
<1> while treating them with medicine for aids.
<4> Even South America has gotten control of their situation
<6> OBVIOUIS: money is not solving the aids problem in afraica.. hence, why waste it?
<0> personaly i was talking about the states and a certain law airing from the reagan era
<1> Then hand out out the condoms
<0> so9 i havent a clue what your on about
<4> FrrrMrkts...call it...Tough Love
<3> Free nature teachs these, and her leasons are harsh
<1> But I would tell them the potential failure rate for comdoms is extremely high
<6> I would say : Cut the spread of aids by promiscuous *** by 50%, then we'll talk.
<2> Nemes the problem with the whole thing is this, we had a HUGE debate here in America about wether telling students about using Condoms was considered *** education
<0> yeah
<0> i can picture the 2 sides
<5> lets just teach people in africa to abstain from ***...im sure thatll be effective
<2> where, when I was a kid in school we had "This is the female body
<2> this is the male body
<4> they will not bother getting control of their aAIDS and equiv problems...until they are done wreaking roo-roo on each other
<2> but it never got into the *** thing
<2> my dad did that
<5> "when a man loves a woman they lie very close together"
<1> Pilgrim right but you being like me a non believer per se.. YOu and I understand that their bahavior is a large part of the problem.
<3> I was insulted when they did the banana thign to my son. he was not imho old enough. and besides that is MY resonsibility not theirs
<2> the whole "birds and bees" talk
<1> They dont get aids from forgetting to wash their hands after they pee
<2> showed me how to use a condom the whole works
<0> i am deffinitely for the side of educating people for their own good when its as serious as aids, heck you dont have to force people to read stuff, but just make sure its available and easy to get hold off
<2> i was like 'uhh ok, i already knew this"
<2> hahahhaha
<1> If you listened to leftwing World Liars about Africa you would think AIds Was caught in the air.
<4> 426 learned with the story of the Gaskets and Cylinders
<3> Free problem is; that behavior is not just in Africa
<8> aids is not caught on the air!~??!?
<3> I have a documenatry you should see
<2> i was 12 when i had ***, i was 15 when my dad went into the whole birds and bees thing
<4> We should cut off all aid to Africa...so they can kill each other in perfect harmony...
<1> its not that women in Africa are ultra susceptible its that sanitation and ***ual practices false security in condoms and ***ual Promiscuity are a big contributing factor.
<4> only when they get tired of killing each other will they start solving their problems
<3> Rusty I learned *** the old fashoined way: I worked a cattle ranch
<2> hahahhaha pilgrim hahaha
<1> Pilgrim yes but where the behavior flourishes the problem is much worse.
<0> its the religous right in africa which is the biggesthurdle for that region, it is the religous right that is going round saying comdoms are evil and useless anyways etc
<0> bring a curse on your family if u use theme tc
<2> pilgrim, my step dad told me how you tell cows are about to drop their calves
<6> FM: the ***ual fetishes in africa make condom use rather pointless.
<2> and then i saw it happen
<4> Free...and the nigh death rate and the killing and genocides going on there
<2> its VERY VERY VERY disgusting
<3> Free yep. and ...the participants die. It is not a nice thing but it is the way it is
<4> see..one is linked to the other
<9> Those who say condoms are useless make the problem worse
<6> NEMS: sorry, but BULL****. If they do not listen to the Catholics about chasity outside of marriage, they wont listen to them about condom useless.
<4> does the UN use baby blue condoms in the Congo?
<1> Lupine, Right you are, but its too god damn simple for Groups who are paid to go to africa and who get a special warm feeling when condeming the west which so far is paying for almost all the medical treatment and drugs in Africa.
<9> Africans condum use is not high enough by any standard
<4> Free...that has to stop
<2> pilgrim to ranchers though those calves are a beautiful site
<2> hehehe pilgrim and then!!!!!
<10> if the religious right says casual *** is wrong and condom use is wrong, and people go around having casual ***, they shouldnt blame the church for making them feel guilty about condoms because theyre already going against the church
<4> the USA enables Africa



<2> what grossed me the worst???
<10> anyway a lot of africans dont use condoms because its not considered manly
<3> Rusty to me: they were just more work
<1> Cry, I agree, but its not going to stop by falsely blaimg the religious right.
<10> not because of any religious teaching
<2> the ****ing mother ate her birth stuff!
<6> redfish: BINGO! it is a false arguement that is not self consistent.
<3> yes
<2> i was like OH GOD THATS SICK
<4> Free I do not blame them for the situation in Africa...
<3> afterbirth is usually eaten by bovines
<6> redfish: that, and their ***ual fetish to have 'dry ***' makes a condom a moot point
<4> I do how ever blame them for interfernece in *** education in the USA
<1> The fact is though I oppose solving problems with propaganda and things I dont believe in, if they were as holy rollers as the religious right they wouldnt have aids like they do.
<0> i know were I lay the blame thats for sure
<2> pilgrim i geuss though its good that they do that
<4> can not deny gods will...bull****
<1> My point is much larger here than any given statement I have MADE.
<2> it helps them make their milk and regain their blood and strength and stuff
<3> Rusty I have a tree in my yard. my Son's is buried under it. It is a pagan thing ;)
<8> labels should be taken of products and let problems solve themselvs
<1> My point is before you blame people for problems stop and think about the reality of what you are talking about.
<6> Free: teh "religious right" is a red herring. If they do not listen to the RR about having extramarital ***.. what wouldn't listen to them about condoms
<4> pilgrim...you buried yer son? :(
<1> Yes its a red herring it has nothing to do with this debate
<1> or this solution
<2> pilgrim, do sheet or horses eat their own stuff?
<1> or this problem
<2> or just cows?
<4> I explained nyself Feree
<6> Cry: that seems to be what he said..
<3> btw, if you work a birthing center or hospital in AGllup NM you know the afterbirth ALWAYS goes home with Mom
<2> sheep
<0> education education education man, its the only way, give people access to info and give them the choice to use preventatives. dont bloody stigmatise people for using common sense when out on a date ffs
<3> yes most do it
<2> woah
<0> i mean be real jeeez
<3> Gallup
<2> i didn't know that
<11> ACoE says the levees in NO are to "pre-Katrina strength"
<6> Nemes: Right, and make it real simple: dont have extramarital ***, dont use IV needles. Nice and simple.
<11> uh...didn't those fail?
<11> haha
<4> Nemes...that Smacks of FELL efficiency...to the TOWER with you!!!
<12> I think I just read that aids levels are stabalizing.
<6> L0C0 yep
<3> what the HELL is worng with teaching "Keep your legs crossed till you really mean it!"
<2> when i was a real little kid i didn't live on a farm, my friend did, and i seen a cow pooped out one time, but i didn't stick around to watch
<0> heh
<1> Bush has given more money to aids in Africa than any president in US history for medicine and stuff. To alleviate suffering, Its not that much probably costs all of us .25 cents, its the combined budget of .25 +.35 +5+100+ ~ that causes our budget woes.
<4> 426 lol
<6> Hell, teach kids their penises will shrivel up and fall off, if it keeps them from having promisculous ***
<5> that wont keep them from having promiscuous ***
<3> I muked out a coral more then once
<12> Then they see a movie with people having *** and nothingg shrivels up.
<5> my generation was all told wed get AIDS in the 80s
<4> and Africa does not seem to improve
<5> from even thinking about having ***
<6> occ: then we dont have to worry about spending any money on them.
<1> And the second ***ertion I get tired of is that bush is part of the religious far right, and he isnt.
<6> if they dont care about having aids, why should we?
<2> in Texas, if you don't sit there and watch its like a dishonor or something
<1> nor does he cater to them
<5> yous missin' da poin'
<3> I believe in teachign slef control
<1> twice he had condemned some of thier members while president.
<2> not to mention there isn't much else to do in Amarillo
<0> it is a highly promiscuous society is the african continent.
<1> For some post 911 statements and other things
<3> yes a teen thinks of nothing but boobies. so?
<12> Didn't Frist say that AIDS could be spread through tears, a republican leadership doctor?
<0> more so that any other i would suspect
<2> sit there drink miller beer and watch a cow drop
<5> you guys are thinking pie in the sky stuff


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