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<0> solar flares -- cycled -- sheesh -- when will people realize that?
<1> suna: those same scientists were screaming about a catastrophic "global cooling" only a few decades ago
<1> suna: they can't even get their **** straight
<2> IamKing: please, you should slap whoever told you that there has been a significant change in solar output. Besides, your comment doesn't offer any explanation for the strong localized change in the artic
<2> co2 output does
<1> suna: no, I will bitchslap you instead since it is scientific fact
<3> Didn't someone else find out that over 50% of the co2 in the air came from cow ****?
<4> I like George Carlin's take on it take on it...to think we have a bearing on the Earth's life-cycles is pompous.
<3> And someone else said hair spray caues 10%
<1> suna: you wishing to disregard it because the facts don't play well with your little pet "theories" (and I do use that term loosely) doesn't make facts less true just to satisfy your delusions
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years
<2> the sun's output is increasing, and will increase. Very very very very very very very SLOWLY. In about 1.1 billion years, the sun's solar output will have increased about 10%. At this point, surface life (in it's current form) would not be possible. IN about 4.5 billion years, the sun will start to significantly expan. As soon as it reaches twice it's current radius, everything dies. Everything.
<5> Well it is hotter now than the 800 years before the ice age?
<2> (on earth)
<5> The increase was very noticiable in 1900's
<2> solar output is constant and perfectly follows a very predictable and accepted model of nuclear fusion in it's core
<3> Anyone can add **** to that website sintient
<2> the neutrino problem being solved in 2002 is more proof than you could ever ask for
<1> suna: we're talking about noticable increases RIGHT NOW, idiot
<3> All I have to do is log in and change the graph
<2> iamking: and i'm telling you you're full of ****
<2> prove it
<4> We can't destroy the earth I don't think...but lets go ahead and destroy ourselves
<1> suna: nah, you are the one full of **** with your head acting as an anal plug
<2> and again, you fail to explain the behavior in the artic, which 30 year old global warming models do PERFECTLY
<1> suna: bull****...prove it
<5> It will be erased if there is no proof to back it up.
<4> I don't care...I'll be dead soon anyways
<2> lol vemod
<2> prove what iamking?
<5> There was a study of wiki and encyclopedia britanica and there were less errors in wiki.
<5> wikipedia that is.
<3> **** it, lets just nuke a couple troublesome countries, this will decrease the temperature of the earth and hopefully shut ya'll mother****ers up
<2> people trust wikipedis too easily......it's good most of the time, but it's gotten to the point where nobody questions something that your average 12 year creates
<1> suna: that the 30 year models proved it "perfectly"...NO human model of climate change as EVER been right PERFECTLY, period
<3> Plus we'll be solving problems like over population and decrease in terrorist fundings
<5> It is wikipedia all changes are monitored.
<2> fine, -perfectly
<2> doesn't help your cause out much
<2> anythign else?
<1> suna: but by all means...live with your head up your *** as you normally do
<2> IamKing: are you going to offer anything significant, or just go on ranting with your insults like a sore loser? You remind me of a 10 year old who just lost a soccer game
<5> Data from Moberg et al. was taken directly from the supplemental information accompanying the Nature article.
<5> Data for Oerlemans was provided by William M. Connolley.
<5> Esper et al. reported only fluctuations in "arbitrary" units, so the variance in this record was rescaled to match the variance during the period of overlap with the instrumental record.
<5> When a paper included multiple reconstructions, the global annually average temperature data was used. If this was not reported, then Northern Hemisphere annually averaged data was used.
<5> There are the notes.
<2> start listening to scientists iamking, this isn't about politics...the sooner you learn that the better
<3> We nuke russia, n. korea, iran, sudan, syria, some other troublesome nations, this should decrease the temperature of the earth, right?
<2> the problem si you think of this as a political issue, just like religious people think of evolution as a religious issue
<5> SEriously and helping clean the eviroment wich also normally slows global warming is not going to ruin the economy.
<3> Tell that to countries like france, germany, the uk and italy
<3> Their economies have been wrecked due to Kyoto
<5> Convert matter to energy with a nuclear reaction and that will cool the eart?
<5> earth?
<5> You are nuts.
<5> Their economies ****ed before.
<3> Only after they signed onto Kyoto in the 90's did it all happen
<5> Look at the what bob novak said about enivromentalism in pittsburg philadelphia and new york in 1970's.
<3> Then businesses packed up and moved out to india or china
<2> oh, and again, nobody has ever blamed humans exclusively for global warming, people just blame humans for making it happen faster and in a way that has never been recorded before (ie, there is no evidence to suggest that the artic has ever changed as fast as it has over the past since the industrial revolution...wow! isn't that a coincidence! it's all liberal nonsense I tell ya!!!)
<6> I just made the mistake of looking at MTV.....
<6> errrr....wtf???
<5> People couldn't walk outsid with out being covered in coal soot and he said cleaning lake errie, that was dead, would ruin the economy and all those economies got better after enviromental initiatives.
<3> I haven't glanced at MTV in years
<2> politicians need to get over themselves and start realizing that not everything is about political agenda. The science came first, the political twist came second. Dems wish global warming was worse than it was, republicans wish it never happend. They're both living in fairytales
<6> its either inane spanish videos...
<6> or a bunch of slovenly looking fat blavk men rapping?
<3> omg
<3> you sure it's not BET?
<6> don't.....
<6> no...this was MTV the rap
<5> No one wishes it was worse.
<6> and MTV Spanish...
<3> I can't believe this ****
<6> geebus....to think at one time they played actual music videos
<2> sintient: the clinton administartion repeatadly tried to make nasa scientists say that global warming was more of a problem than it actually is
<5> Accept maybe people for the extinction of man, seriously for flooding shanghei manhatten and new orleans.
<3> Pretty soon the national language of this country will be spanish
<4> People need to get over themselves...and getting over your selfishism and p***ing onto your kids isn't what I'm talking about ;)
<2> the political spin goes both ways
<5> You are saying they know how much a problem it is?
<6> no..the dems wanted to spin it as an issue
<5> Or maye they want to play it up so that it gets on the radar.
<5> Like it isn't an issue?
<2> sintient: i'm saying that when scientists published reports, the whitehouse would edit them severely to try to make them say waht they wanted them to say
<5> Show me that link.
<6> global warming is envirowacko bull****
<5> Haha you make yourself look so dumb when you say envirowacko.
<6> spin that ...and the dems can steal even more money
<5> You can't present the evidence so you just attach a pejorative tag onto it.
<3> I believe global warming is occuring but not in the way escaped insane asylum guys like Al Gore says it is
<6> sintient..if the nome de plume fits...
<6> same goes for 'greenfreak'
<5> It's a weak debtate tactic.
<4> I don't think people will ever get over themselves though, its not natural
<5> debating with name callers
<6> sintient....good try....
<4> So we're doomed :) Just like the bible says heh
<6> heh
<7> oh goodie, debate!
<3> There, so the bible is right, now that means you liberals can't be atheists
<2> yes cryarvach. It's envirowacko bull****. Would you like to explain why the artic has been melting faster since the industrial revolution than it ever has before? Would you like to explain why every climate scientist happens to agree that not only is global warming happening, but that human co2 output has considerably contributed to the process? Is it just a big conspiracy? are you afraid to drink tap water?
<6> DOOM IV: The Bible
<8> debate???
<7> I swear I heard it.
<4> haha
<7> ;)
<6> ok...explain why it was actually cold in FL until near the end of May?
<6> Publius..not much of one
<7> cause the temperature dropped
<3> Cause some fat mother blocked the sun
<8> lol
<6> the Dems needed something they could use as an issue...and also use later too steal more money form the taxpayers to study
<7> I just hate Democrats, don't you guys?
<6> Jett...global warming = a temperature drop...
<7> heh
<3> If they say global warming exists, why do they still pour money into researching if it exists?!
<6> I detest both parties...
<0> hi JETT
<8> Jett: the scum of the universe
<6> but the GOP is a slightly lesser evil
<7> hiya Caliuna ;)
<2> CryArvach: You have it backwards. The fact that the artic melts first without significant inital climate change on other parts of the planet is what was predicted by global warming models decades ago. This is why scientists agree that co2 output is becoming significant, your statement agrees with mine. YOu're not arguing me
<6> sintient morphed into suna
<5> http://www.met-office.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/obsdata/globaltemperature.html
<5> I still don't see you presenting any information.
<3> If I wake up one morning and find an iceberg on my front lawn, I'll agree that yes global warming is caused by humans
<5> I am just saying that calling people names makes you look like you have nothing to back up your stance.
<6> Movies like the Day After Tomorrow are so flagrantly flecked in green its not funny...
<6> neat special effect s though
<3> What a joke that movie was
<5> Nohman is retarded though, he thinks blowing up nukes will cool the earth.
<8> WASHINGTON, June 1, 2006 Noticeable changes have taken place in Iraq since the country's national unity government was inaugurated, a Multinational Force Iraq spokesman told reporters today in Baghdad.
<8> http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jun2006/20060601_5308.html
<6> the warming and cooling of the earth is a natural cycle
<5> Who is citing that movie as anything.
<2> the earth's magnetic field causes a lot of these particles to move twords the polls. This is the same reason the "hold in the o-zone" is located where it is. The fact that the artic is melting and that florida isn't hot AGREES with the model that human co2 output is becoming a significant source of global temperature increase
<6> you would not dare
<3> Nuclear winter should cancel out global warming, what is so far fetched in that?
<2> lol nohman
<5> Strawman arguement you bring up something that has nothing to do with anything to shoot it down.
<5> Weak.
<2> I like that joke in futurama
<2> "actually global warming happened, but nuclear winter cancelled it out"
<9> errm... "hole in the ozone layer"
<2> :)
<6> hy is it we had a cooling trend some 10,000 years ago?
<6> we did not have any cities then?
<3> Seriously, it's quite logical
<4> I'm not atheist, I'm undecided
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