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<0> A hedge fund contains bets which are opposite in nature, in order to mitigate risk
<1> less shares outstanding
<2> occ_2 eh, it's when the betting pool has enough power to be sort of self fulfulling
<3> well FT, then i guess since you arent betting for money...there is no bet?
<3> well, ill still keep an eye on it
<1> What ?
<3> for fun :)
<1> I said I would put up $50.00
<1> You wnat to go $100?
<3> and i said im not going to put a cent on it.
<1> Ill Go $100.00
<3> you can thank me later.
<1> AND STAKE MY REPUTATION ON IT
<2> occ_2 let's say I have enough money to buy 50% of a company's stock... and so I start buying it frantically causing a rush on it... and just as I reach my 50%, I wait for everyone ele to catch up
<3> lol you are brash
<2> occ_2 then I sell; using the madness I started to jack up the price and net like a 15% profit margin
<2> that's a hedge fund
<1> NO, yOU PROPOSEDa bet
<4> congressional reports say Bush will ask for $70b in 2006 and $50b in 2007 for war spending
<1> sorry my caps key is accidently getting hit
<0> kobushi you're describing a pump & dump manipulation, not a legitimate investment fund
<5> L0c0- how dare he fund military
<3> yes, and the consideration for this bet is bragging rights
<1> Christ, Call me strange, you proposed a bet I put up money.
<1> No bragging is for kids
<0> kobushi altho that certainly goes on
<1> I do things for money
<3> that's great for you...i dont, especially in an online environment.
<2> Null_Ptr ah, well maybe I'm mistaken in the terms then, I'm not an avid investor, that's just the way i've always heard hedge funds refered to
<3> 21.27
<3> as of now...5% on that
<3> we'll see
<1> You think I get off on bragging ? I dont, only when it comes to political predictions and then I am also teasing and bragging, I know that political predictions are very volatile.
<1> unlike the price of intel
<3> lol
<1> I dont brag.
<1> I have fun.
<0> kobushi i think in the vernacular there's a tendency to call anyone a hedge fund if they have enuff money to have a "coattail" effect
<4> bud`: this is war spending specifically, not funding for the military as a whole
<3> Heh, i said you were brash, not a braggart!
<3> :)
<1> Ask comet. Sometimes I realize i act like i am bragging on channnel but sometimes I am just teasing people.
<1> She knows it, she knows me better than anyone.
<1> online of course.
<1> Brash ? You propose a bet, I say ok Im in, then you back out, then I am brash.
<0> kobushi ie if you have $1B to invest, and you decide to include say AMD as one of your stocks (a bad idea, but nonetheless...) so you want to shift to a position of 1% of your value in AMD (ie $10M) it will take a long time to get that much stock bought, and the price will be driven up in the process
<3> i bet need not involve real money.
<0> making you more of an institution than an individual investor
<3> :)
<2> Null_Ptr true, that's prorbably where my misuse of hedge fund comes from
<5> whats a bet with nothing to back it up
<1> Then you tell us about sitting in college studying and living while investing in the stock market. Thats not that common with college students. I was never that lucky. Well actually Even now i only invest what I could lose.
<2> bud` hot air
<3> there is something to back it up...bragging rights. More than sufficient for me.
<2> bud` empty posturing
<1> though I know I wont lose money on MSFT or INTC they just move slowly because they are bluechip stocks.
<1> Bragging I dont do.
<1> Not in bets.
<1> If I bragg it will be depending on my mood and my sillyness.
<1> I wont bet to brag
<1> bragging is bad even when I do it.. But worse if I take myself to seriously
<1> which I dont.
<2> FeeSimple so, later you can brag that you were unwilling to risk anything, and that you postured emptilly in the face of ... nonconsequential disagreement?
<3> I will brag "if" circumstances warrant, lol!
<3> i mean if a intel plant melts down
<2> inconsequential* perhaps
<3> i probably would not brag :)
<1> Hey if you get a hardon bragging, go ahead.
<3> i like being right...it is self-satisfying enough without profiting from it
<2> I mean, sometimes I brag that I won a $50 bet; but I'd never brag that I won a nothingness bet
<3> KoBushi: that is where you and I differ i guess.
<2> I risked my nothng, and I won!!! W00T!
<2> Now I have.. still nothing
<2> Take that!
<1> Liek last night on channel i was a little goofy, but I was playing and laughing because I had some fun experiences lately like having a argument at a stop sign more of a tease with about 20 union workers.
<2> :)
<3> Depends what you view as nothing...
<1> The way they responded though was funny and i have to give them credit.
<1> Fee, Dont take yourself so seriously.. You are a goof like me. The serious peoople on channel rarely joke..
<3> Ive had many gratituitous wagers where accuracy brings about respect and intellectual control over others. More valuable to me than 50 bucks
<3> lol
<1> But I have to say.. Discos Web site he gave me last night is hillarious and I just laughed going through it.
<1> Everyone should see this:
<2> FeeSimple ... I call shananigans
<3> heh :)
<3> FT: how old are you dude
<2> FeeSimple your howlloy non-risk bets do not create intellectual control over others
<1> http://zombietime.com/
<3> (love the word dude)
<1> That is a website EVERYONE MUST BOOKMARK
<2> nor respect, really :)
<1> ITS ture and its satirical and it is funny
<2> respect would be, you pay a bet you lost
<3> KoBushi: Ive argued with people and you corrected them on enough matters where what i say is generally considered gospel.
<3> i always pay...one of the reasons why im not comfortable with online wagers
<1> Fee, Dont take yourself too seriously
<3> :)
<1> Fee, I am almost 50
<3> ahh, okay FT. I thought you were younger
<1> hahahahaha
<2> FeeSimple it's pretty clear that the only thing you win in these $0 wagers is undeserved ego :)
<3> I'm 21.
<1> Yeah its funny one gal thought I would be a suit with a clean cut look like a business man.
<2> Yes, you are 21 and people take your word as gosphel because they lost $0 bets to you ;)
<3> you arent that either?
<1> I look like a ****ing old hippy and I dress casually in jeans and tee shirts except when buisness calls.
<3> heh, im a sharp contrast to that. I wear a suit to school half the time
<3> and if not it is a polo turtleneck
<3> lol!
<3> speaking of school...i should go sometime today, but that sounds like effort
<2> FreeTrade that site is funny... I'm laughing my *** off at the nudist old chic in the wheelchair
<1> KoBush Yeah its hillarious, Ihave a worker I will be right back, I am building my new office.
<2> hum
<2> I'm trying to compile a list of water cooled turbos used in production cars; and I'm finding it very difficault
<6> the only time i wear suits is at weddings & funerals
<7> mazda
<7> saab
<7> mitsubishi
<6> all cars are water cooled except some old vw's
<2> panini bu not all turbos are water cooled
<2> even on water cooled engines :P
<6> well there's "intercooled"
<2> salstress each of those produced both water cooled and oil cooled only turbos in thier cars
<2> panini water cooled turbos means that the engine coolant also flos through the turbo housing to cool the bearings
<2> as opposed to just oil cooling the bearings
<6> ah
<6> well can you name one such car?
<2> also known as liquid cooled
<2> panini I know later mode Saab 9000s were all water cooled turbos
<2> model*
<2> but not sure exactly what year they switched to that design
<6> at first i thought youw ere looking for water cooled PC's
<2> and the Turbo Mark IV chryslers were water cooled
<4> GOP to be lead by a Boner
<4> er Boehner
<4> Boehner voted new GOP majority leader
<4> still think it should be pronounced Boner
<1> back
<1> Panini, would you rather own a bluestock with a 15 PE or a competitor with a 105 P/E ?
<1> \hehe
<1> Bluechip not blue stock ;)
<6> KoBushi: it turns out a lot of lawn tractors have liquid cooled turbos
<6> would you consider driving a lawn tractor?
<6> FT hehe
<4> probably b/c they don't move at a fast enough speed to make a typical cooling system effective
<4> like in cars
<2> hehe, only to work on my lawn panini :)
<1> Jesus When I bought it I thought it was a P/E of 20, but that was before it went down to the price I paid for it.
<4> ?
<1> So I actually bought it at 15 P/E
<8> Kobushi: many of the VW/Audi 1.8T engines are both oil and water cooled
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