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<0> Which is why Black Friday sales are done that way
<1> SonOfSpam yeah, I once bought a stack of CD-Rs for $29.99 with a $30 mail-in rebate
<2> walmart isn't known for "sales"
<3> retailors requested this, so that people couldnt do price matching so easily.. if each store has diff model #'s
<2> loss leaders yes
<4> Walmart is known for having pretty much everything you need in one stop... clothes... office supplies... groceries... home supplies... gardening... tools... etc etc...
<4> You don't have to go to 5 different stores.
<3> some things are cheap at walmart, most things are not.
<1> Walmart never has all the **** I need
<4> If all you need is a wrench, you'll probably just go to the closest place that has wrenches.
<3> ****, everytie ive gone in there for some $20 item, I have came out spending $100 or so haha
<1> SonOfSpam only if you want one that'll break in 2 uses :P
<0> well, gotta go and do stuff in real life
<5> bud` you mean like Toyota dealerships selling Ford pick up trucks?
<5> Say it aint so !
<4> KoBushi... are you suggesting that walmart has better wrenches than all the others that might be closer?
<2> loss leaders are lures to brng in shoppers who perceive other items to be low priced
<1> SonOfSpam no, I'm suggesting that choosing where yu buy your wrenches based soly on proximity, is a god way to end up with crappy wrenches :)
<4> Linus-... and walmart has sales all the time advertised locally.
<2> or wenches
<4> Heck and nationally.
<1> good ay*
<1> good way! bleh
<1> me no type good
<2> walmart does not have memorial day blowout sales like other retailers
<6> oh
<2> they rely on hot selling loss leaders
<4> They advertise in the local papers along with the others about their sales.
<4> They may do it differently here and there... but the idea is the same.
<2> 2 years ago they sold whatever the hottest toy was that Christmas for below wholesale price, knowing once parents are in their toy aisles, they'll likely make most purchases
<1> Linus- evil!
<4> Smart advertising.
<3> if I owned a little corner ma & pa store, Id take on walmart at their own game. next time they sold $19 dvd players, I'd go and buy 20 of em, and sell em in my store for $15, and advertise that in the paper
<1> :P
<2> that drove kaybee out of business and drove toys r us to the brink
<4> Linus-... maybe kaybee and toys r us should have followed suit.
<1> Clearly, business operating at a loss, is more evil than business operating at profit
<7> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans in the House of Representatives narrowly won p***age on Wednesday of a controversial bill to trim about $39 billion from domestic spending over five years
<2> I'm not suggesting that loss leaders are evil
<4> kaybee and toys r us are hardly small business anyways.
<2> just stating that walmarts version of a sale isn't typical of most retailers
<4> Typical of a lot of businesses.
<1> Linus- which is probably why thier business model has worked so well
<4> hook 'em with sale items... and they'll buy other crap too.
<5> kaybee and toys R us put THEMSELVES out of business by not following smart business tactics
<3> Thats exactly what sam walton did, he used pantyhose I believe. He'd go to the *big stores* and buy their pantyhose for $1.99, and sell em all in his little store for 99cents
<4> You make up for your loss by getting them in the door.
<5> thats not walmarts fault thats their faults
<4> That's just effective advertising and marketing.
<5> exactly
<4> How that is wrong or unfair I don't see.
<4> It friggin works.
<4> And toys r us can do the same.
<1> Personally I'd never want to run a retail business
<2> `426Hemi, when walmart locks in suppliers price pts on a hot item, it requires, eg, toys r us to pay higher wholesale price for same item, making it more difficult to match walmarts under cost price
<1> horribly low profit margins
<5> the majority of these companies go out of business by offering product lines that NO ONE wants
<7> Linus-: yup
<1> I'd never want to have to rely on the last 2 or 3 weeks of the year to break even/make profit
<5> Linus, I just showed you 2 freakin examples that blow that entirely out of the water
<4> Toys R Us can't negotiate with suppliers?
<7> Linus-: b/c walmart can/will sell more of that item than specialty stores can
<4> Since when?
<2> they will at lowest price on hottest toy
<7> Linus-: so manufacturers can afford to cut their sell price to walmart
<8> Toys R Us can get the same price as Wal Mart
<2> L0c0-, walmart also enters contracts stating that distributors cannot sell at same price to competitors
<5> and Linus it completely contradicts your earlier statement......
<5> Linus- walmart isn't known for "sales"
<8> Linus-, nonsense, no supplier would do that.
<5> hahahahaha
<2> they can, but walmart is the better contract due to volume
<5> so how is that unfair Linus?
<8> Walmart doesn't dictate what suppliers sell for.
<2> a loss leader item is a version of a sale, but not what we tradionally see from retailers
<5> Walmart can buy more supplies at a lesser price... whats the problem?
<5> its the way it works
<7> Linus-: that I never heard of, BUT, I know for a fact that the cost of the 2.2oz can of tetramin flakes cost less at Walmart than at PetSmart
<2> how many times does walmart have a sale flyer in sinday papers?
<2> sunday
<9> Linus .. look. Toys r Us have a bunch of stores. For a long time there, they were drawing huge numbers of people in with leaders and once the parents were in there with the kids, they were getting taken with high prices on everything else.
<2> like other retailers
<7> by cost, I mean the price that WalMart paid for it vs what PetSmart paid for it
<4> Linus-... about every other week here.
<9> So don't ask me to show sympathy for them when they are beat at their own game
<5> you keep taking "catch phrases" to support your failing arguement
<2> ive never seen one
<1> I don't read my local paper, so I dunno Linus- :)
<4> Do you have a walmart in your area?
<2> yes
<2> more than one
<7> they sold for close to the same price (walmart being a few cents cheaper), but when you realize they spent less to buy it, their markup/profit margin is larger
<4> Linus-... don't know what to tell you then... they advertise quite a bit here.
<10> heh
<2> the walmart business model is low prices everyday
<4> Maybe they already got 'em hooked there and only do it around the big shopping seasons there.
<2> not wait for the sale
<9> l0co so your solution is for WalMart to charge MORE than Toys R Us to make things fair? LOL. You think Toys R Us are victims?
<9> thats a hoot
<10> i love it when these idiots in south fulton county start bitching about sandy springs
<1> I don't think walmart is evil, ... however I do think that oil companies business practices are unethical as of late...
<7> Cometbaby: huh?
<7> when did I say that?
<1> US oil cos are reporting record profits; and Canadian Oil Sands companies are operating at an 83% profit margin
<9> what is your point loco
<2> comet, toys r us should be allowed to negotiate its own price point with distributors
<2> not some minimum walmart dictates
<9> Linus .. they don't?
<7> Cometbaby: abou twhat Linus was talking about
<9> Linus if they don't like the price they get, they should not buy it
<10> there are plenty of distributors out there
<7> Cometbaby: about contracts for lower prices that other retailers can't get
<2> they should not offer Christmas hottest items?
<9> Toys R Us is a major outlet .. if they didn't buy the toys the mfg would feel it bigtime. They have their own clout
<4> Why can't other retailers get contracts for lower prices?
<4> There is no law against it.
<5> SoS see my examples on the TV's and COmputers
<5> thats just one example
<2> its not that i deny one large retailer negotiating a price with suppliers, its that walmart enters contracts setting minimum prices if the supplier sells to competition
<9> Linus Toys R Us have negotiated better prices than even smaller stores. So where exactly do you draw the line?
<7> Cometbaby: and i said that I didn't know anything about contracts, but, based on waht I saw working there, at least for the 2.2oz can of Tetramin fish flakes, walmart bought at a lower price than PetSmart. So even if they sold at the same price at PetSmart, they made more b/c their profit margin on that one item was larger
<2> so toys r us can only negotiate to the price set by walmart contract
<4> 426... nothing stops them from making a contract for lower prices too.
<7> Cometbaby: point being, to make up that same profit margin, PetSmart would have to sell at a higher price
<1> Well... before I go, I will say this... at least Walmart doesn't use a Just In Time scheme
<9> Loco .. and the problem with that is????
<7> Cometbaby: who's talking about toys r us?
<2> negotiated prices without stipulations for other sales is ok
<4> Toys R Us can negotiate for whatever they want.
<9> Linus is
<7> Cometbaby: i didn't say there was a problem
<7> settle down for cripes sake
<10> its capitalism and capitalism = evil
<2> lovking in price pts for competitors isn't
<2> locking
<9> Well I don't see one
<10> geeze
<1> I ****ing hate JIT suppliers that I have to deal with, they never have what I need when I need it
<4> Linus-... there is *nothing* to stop other companies from offering suppliers a better deal.
<7> Cometbaby: i wasn't making a point about toys r us, i was telling Linus about the example I know about, fish food
<8> Linus-, where do you get such horse****, Walmart hasn't any control whatsoever as to the price suppliers set for their customers, only for what THEY pay.
<10> i love this whole "no equal under law < equal results" mentality people have
<2> nothing except suppliers will go with the bigger volume
<5> Linus, you have yet to show any proof that Walmart forces distributors to "lock prices" you mentioned TV's and computers as an example, I showed you that you were wrong on both accounts...
<9> Loco .. the whole point .. is that WalMart is evil because they either sell it for less, or make more profit if they sell it at the same price. BAD BAD BAD. lol
<4> Linus-... yeah, they act in their own interests... imagine that.
<8> Linus-, Walmart contracts don't limit or set prices that suppliers sell to other outlets.
<7> geez, some folks woke up in attack mode today
<7> sheesh
<10> walmart is more successful and better business managers than i am, therefore i want gov to step in and make it fair to me
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