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<0> its not the animals its the owners
<1> dude, this house had droppings all over it
<1> i could not belive it was real
<2> i generally don't feel bad for dogs, but i've seen one that i did for
<1> hah
<3> cmon. lets put condi's quote for the topic
<2> pitiful flea bitten thing
<1> when i was a kid, this dirt bag i huhng around with would shoot dogs with a powerful rife
<2> i aasked them "is that thing old?'
<3> wonder if she'll speak figuratively about the deficit if she becomes president
<2> they saidd 'no, it's pretty young'
<3> digging up them hole, holes
<4> Linus- what'd she do/say?
<5> o/
<0> i wouldnt hang with someone like that and i may beat their *** or just report them
<3> "the US has made 1000s of tactical mistakes in iraq"
<4> Linus- ah.
<2> then i felt kina bad for it
<1> yeh, i stoped hanging with em, even at 14 i knew he was the wrong crowd
<3> later when the **** hit the fan she said she was speaking figuratively
<3> go figure ;)
<1> who determins tatical mistakes
<4> well doesn't matter what she says.. ppl gonna be rude regardless
<3> it doesnt matter what the sec of state says about our cinduct in the war?
<3> conduct
<0> well tactical and strategic are a bit different
<1> you could say there were 1000's of tatical mistakes on d-day
<0> i wouldnt be surprised to find out there WERE 1000's of tactical mistakes
<3> its rude to ask her for clarification?
<4> thats kind of what i was thinking
<0> but most people will confuse the two
<3> why did she even bring it up? it was part of her prepared speech
<0> and often people don't understand the difference even if you explain the difference
<4> the bars pretty high if ppl lie to themselves that there's such a thing as a flawless war plan
<1> does every one here think d-day was the most important day in world history?
<1> i kinda do
<0> THAT i don't know
<6> why?
<3> whyn did she mention it at all???
<1> why ?
<0> linus-: that i dont know
<1> well let me tell ya
<1> that hitler dude
<0> maybe because so many people want us to admit mistakes as well as successes?
<2> i think maybe the fall of Russia was
<1> name a day that compares with the importance of d-day
<3> she could have said "Yes, we've made some tactical mistakes in iraq"
<3> but thousands?
<4> drugrel8d berlin wall.. but not as big as dday
<2> although d-day may be the mmosst important daay in us militaary history
<0> thousands? I'm SURE its thousands
<3> and isn't that laying the onus of the problem squarely on the penetagon and not the admin?
<1> the wall was a big day
<3> pentagon
<6> i think the days the fed and un were created might have been
<0> you know tactical is at the troop level and per operation right?
<2> the wall wasn't all that
<1> the un huh
<0> no pentagon determines strategy
<3> you're totally missing the point
<2> germany wasn't ****
<0> see... this is the point i was just making
<2> Russia was
<3> why did she have to choose a quantitative figure and not just stick with "some"?
<1> the wall coming down had nothign to do with germany really, it was the end of commies
<0> dunno thousands is probably descriptive and somewhat accurate AND figurative as well
<3> "I've made thousands of mistakes as secretary of state" she didn't say
<0> i do it myself sometimes
<3> it was a PREPARED speech
<0> tactical mistakes are soldier bob doing something wrong
<4> Linus- I don't see why it's a big deal. I already know there were and always are errors, she already knew, you already knew, what's the big deal with the overanalyzing and trying to find a redundant angle to har*** her with
<2> several generations lived w/ the Russian threaat
<0> yes and you are totally missing the difference between tactical mistakes and strategic mistakes
<3> if its NOT a big deal, why is she now trying to spin it?
<6> i sometimes think the cold war was a farce..just a way to cover up the trillions spent....
<0> or squad bravo being in the wrong place
<3> bun-bun, wtf?
<6> black budget is insane
<3> it has nothing to do with that difference
<1> what exactly is there definition of "tatical mistake"
<0> because lots of people are misunderstanding just like i said? (this is my guess) people confuse tactical with strategic
<3> that doesnt even enter the equation
<3> no
<3> its her quabtifying it
<4> is this stupid **** gonna be the topic for the day
<0> drugre look it up.. tons of military references between the difference between tactics and strategy
<6> a mistake is a mistake in the military
<4> unbelievable
<3> bud`, go ahead, put head in sand
<3> **** off
<2> well you haven't explained it yourself
<1> i have a decent knowlegs of miatary stragy
<4> then answer my question Linus- I don't see why it's a big deal. I already know there were and always are errors, she already knew, you already knew, what's the big deal with the overanalyzing and trying to find a redundant angle to har*** her with
<2> tactical whatever
<0> linus- YOU misunderstood it... are you suprised that its being qualified now? I've explained that theres a difference and I am not sure you even see the difference
<1> but my point is, its hard to call somthign a tatical mistake
<2> your interpretatioon
<1> its a very broad term
<3> watch the news
<0> a tactic is a low level operational implementation of a portion or all of a strategy
<1> rite
<7> Fellow neocons, i salute you
<3> wtf cares what the difference is in regards to her statements?
<2> be mmore specific
<0> no its easy to call something a tactical mistake.. it would be if i transported a squad to the wrong location during an operation, etc
<0> because linus- you took issue with thousands not understanding that it probably IS thousands
<1> you could say every action was a tatical mistake,
<3> she chose to admit to 1000s of errors in a prepared speech only to have to defend her comments as not literal
<4> dems shoot themselves in the foot everytime they think they have something to cry about to get them support, wasn't it just last week some higher ups in the DNC said this **** is hurting them and it's time to get real?
<3> gimme a break
<0> no every action that is not to plan is a tactical mistake
<1> so the plan from the begining was 0 deaths?
<2> good job lefty
<3> this has absolutely nothing to do with dem/gop
<3> i like condi rice
<2> very broad terms
<0> so you are miffed that it was a likely accurate statement?
<1> who is gona be the next president
<3> I'm just quite curious why she went downt this road
<0> if she said some would that be LOTS? or gazillions or 10?
<0> dunno... i have already said i dont know WHY she said it
<3> sigh
<0> but i can see it being somewhat accurate and a reason to say the turn of phrase was figurative
<2> jeb Bush
<3> especially addressing an audience in the UK with jack straw
<0> as it's kinda hard to drill the difference between tactics and strategy into people
<1> the military planners, knew there were gona be 1000's of deaths, in random war fighting like that its random randomness
<0> i can only say 'I don't know why she said it' so many times
<2> well, 10-1
<4> the next president will be just about anyone who runs who ISNT an angry liberal. people don't vote for angry snarling politicians
<2> pretty good ratio
<1> there are no tatics to fighting a war like that, is what i am getting at
<4> they'll learn eventually
<3> bun-bun, you could say it 1000s of times! :)
<0> i guess so :)
<1> you guys think hillary could win?
<3> wait, you have 994 more times
<0> i could script it and msg it to you if you REALLY want
<2> no
<3> thanks!
<3> but no
<0> and it would need to be at least 1994 more times to be thousands
<3> 1001 isn't thousands?
<3> i suppose "thousands of protesters" doesnt mean the same as "the crowd numbered in the thousands"
<8> snakes
<8> on a mother****ign PLANE
<3> spiders
<3> oh we're not doing jim croce word ***ociation
<4> is that movie out
<8> what
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