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Comments:
<0> whacko insecure nutjobs need guns
<1> human rights to me, dont torture detain people against their will etc
<2> typical thuggist apologist for the state not recognizing civil and human rights
<0> human rights to me is simple, free to do what you want and obey the law.
<3> by child in this case a high school girl.
<0> not be beaten by the army
<3> but thats a child to me.
<0> or police
<4> umm yum KFC mac n CHEESe and ****in biscuits and CHICKEN all amiercan meals >;x
<0> owning a gun is not a human right basic
<1> exatcly
<2> lol.. "obey the law".. even if unjust
<0> owning a gun is useless
<0> who cares about owning a guin
<0> guns wont protect u
<3> What if the law was immoral and took away your freedoms ?
<2> FT: then he'll abide by them ;-)
<4> dont worry guns
<4> use planes
<2> useless sheep
<4> like the gundis proved
<1> then you protest, if your country is truly free
<4> then u stand outside the white house
<0> lupine you are living where? south central?
<4> like a white trash
<5> we're talking abotu laws here in the first place
<4> with your pickit sign
<4> >=|
<2> dein: yea, protest will do great against a state who doesn't care about your wishes
<5> how can we really "be able to give ourselves the right to have guns" and then talk about the law not being moral
<0> Human Rights is Ability to live , work, do what you want without the state forcing you to do anything. Ability to walk anywhere, ability to make phone calls, privacy, etc.. not be beaten on the streets
<5> either we have control over the law, or we dont
<0> thats human rights
<4> u know our goverment
<4> was built on sadoism
<4> so basically you people are lying SAcks
<0> in the usa there is police brutality
<4> nuff said enjoy it while it lasts
<2> Kov: you have whored out your standards of human rights
<0> lupine you dont even know what human rights is
<2> "How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."
<2> Texas State Rep. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp
<0> its not an ameican invention
<0> its a canadian one
<0> a UN one
<2> lol.. as if Canada or the UN existed as they do of today, in 1776
<0> Charter of liberty and freedom is a UN one drafted by a canadian nobel peace prize winner
<4> freedom
<0> There is no freedom in the usa. in canada there is
<4> irony
<0> you are dilluded lupine
<2> Kov: really? try to tune in Howard Stern in canada
<0> we dont listen to howard stern
<0> its a piece of **** show
<3> What if the government puts you in a prison for a year or more for simply walking into america from a foreign soil ? How do you represent your basic human rights or freedoms ?
<1> falkn in france it works, people protest there and it freezez all, goverments as to listen and do something or the economy dies if protests last too long
<2> Kov: nice how you warp your sense of "freedom" to the state laws
<0> howard stern himself bashed his listeneres for not following him to sirius
<2> in parts of canada, you can be arrested and jailed for not printing in both french and english
<3> It isnt going to happen because the bill will never p***, but this is hypothetical isnt it.
<0> wrong
<0> lupine wtf
<0> your nuts
<2> Kov: yes, I have to say "what the ****" to canada
<2> never been to quebec have you
<0> lupine your a nut job
<5> FreeTrade are you saying you should enforce your own rights against the government with firearms?
<0> i live in quebec u nut job
<2> rodtr: if need be
<5> but who do you shoot?
<0> in quebec if u own a business, better be bilingual
<0> duh
<0> quebec is a french province
<3> Did I say that / Did I imply that ? Did I even mention a weapon every today ?
<5> the people you'd end up shooting wouldn't be the ones responsible
<0> you wont be jailed, just fined.
<2> kob: "duH', so much for freedom fo speech
<5> oh ok, sorry
<3> Did Imply a weapon ?
<6> btw, with iraq war costing ~$90bln a year, you yankee heroes could save 246 millions people from dying of hunger
<0> in america if you say the word bomb anywhere, you will be detained for 3 years
<0> possibly.
<5> Lupine: so you would?
<1> lol kov
<2> deff: wrong, as it implies the aid would go to actually feed people. which, as Live Aid shown, does not happen
<0> phone calls are tapped. NSA with it's Echelon project copies Every single electronic transmission
<3> No, I just said how do you protest if you are hidden away in prison
<2> lol.. echelon wasn't the NSA.. nice try ;-)
<0> it is
<0> Echelon project is an NSA project
<7> heh the horse racing fraternity has cottoned onto the cloning bandwagon, only a matter of time i suppose :) some major thoroughbred owners have started cloning good stock to order, and apparently their order books are full :)
<0> Echelon spies on americans
<2> in any event, you have whored out standards of freedom
<0> 2nd amendment is just words, its jack ****
<3> Now I will say one thing, Terrorists arent worthy of basic human rights, the first time they plot, attempt or join an organization which you support which murders intentionally innocent individuals, WITH INTENT.
<3> Then you dont get liberties.
<0> the u.s amendments are all bull****, words which mean nothing
<0> and not enforced
<0> Since the Justice system is now conquered by right wing evaganlical nutjobs
<2> FT: i think the idea that the US constitution applies to anyone, anywhere int eh world.. is highly dangerious
<2> kob: lol.. actualy, the majority are left wing nutjobs ;-)
<0> i think both Right Wigners and Left Wingers are nutjobs
<0> thats my opinion
<6> Lupine: yeah right...that's a good rationalisation
<3> But if you are simply a poor man looking for a job then you do deserve basic human rights including respect as an individual until you do somwthing which negates that respect. or rather Respect can simply mean leaving people alone.
<0> both extremities are freaks
<3> But I got a go.;..
<3> A parting thought ;)
<0> Extreme Right Wingers = similar to nazi party and nazi ideal , Extreme Left Wingers = Similar to stalinist party, ideal , communism
<2> in any event, without the 2nd amendment.. any other "right" is temporary, and only at the convienance of the govn't.
<3> Lupine of course the constitution only applies to american citizens and those under its control. But Basic Human rights are universal
<8> Thats so totally correct, when Republicans are elected, it automatically means the Consitution and the bill of rights is Null and Void, worthless. Yes Yes, we Need the Champions of Democracy, the Democrats themselves, for any of the words to actually MEAN anything.
<2> um.. nazi= national SOCIALISTS.. aka left wing
<0> nazis were right wingers
<0> u dolt
<0> not left wingers
<2> um.. state owned and directed the means of production
<9> i dont think its meaningful to call them right wingers or left wingers
<2> red: true.. but if you do, at least be close to the mark ;-)
<1> on french national tv you can hear cussing see nudity violence etc, they are more free at the tv level ;)
<0> i think that to much freeom is dangerous and can cause anarchy
<0> America is now conquered by 30 million illegal immigrants
<3> I expect someone in Pakistan to deny people civil rights because they never had rights in their history, But for americans to oppress people in such a way would be unconscienable, but i dont think america would do that to poor innocent people :)
<10> one of the first things Hitler did as dictator was do away with unions and put everything under state control
<2> kob: right, which is why the mases must be disarmed
<3> Nighty Night ;)
<11> lol
<2> m***es
<0> 30 milion illegal immigrants
<0> not 12
<1> america was conquered allready by immigrants back in the 1492 :p
<9> deinmere who is more free? the networks who own the channels? i wish people would stop talking as if restriction of television affects their free speech
<0> its impossible to evict 30million illegals
<1> free to see and choose
<0> it will cause a civil war
<0> what if the 30million illegals refuse to leave? after their 3 year work term
<1> not having people decide what you can see or listen too i like that freedom
<12> no way, that wont happen
<12> theres not gonna be any civil war in the US and you ****ing know it
<0> there wil be
<0> America will destroy itself
<12> lets stop being all alarmist
<9> youre not more free to see and choose. the networks are owned by a few companies, who determine what you get to see, a lot of what people want on television is not on, and a lot of what people dont want is on
<12> no way
<0> THat's how it will go down. no one will destroy it, but itself
<0> suicide
<12> we'll offer illegal immigrants work visas
<9> whats on television doesnt reflect what the public wants
<12> and it will end the stupi dissue
<12> if stupid repubs vote for it
<12> instead of sticking with their racist horse****
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